Snipers?

[ColdFusion]

Do you think there are snipers in paintball?

[Crime Dog]

No good can come out of this question. It's been beat into the ground countless times... I'd like to ask the Mod in charge of this forum to close this thread...

[Cerberust]

intr.v. sniped, snip·ing, snipes

1. To shoot at individuals from a concealed place.
2. To shoot snipe.
3. To make malicious, underhand remarks or attacks.


Neither side is right in all cases, in speedball it might be harder to snipe, but its definitely possible in the woods. You will all notice by the definition, that it doesnt neccesarily mean from a lengthy distance, you can snipe someone from a foot away if they dont know your on the other side of the bunker their behind.

anyways, i voted yes.

[Chad51]

When I play in the woods people snipe all of the time! I like to snipe just because nobody ever knows where I am shooting from I then they get hit in the goggles for 200 ft.!

[Codestar20]

I agree with Crime Dog. This has been argued countless times in the past. Anyways I say yes and no. Are there snipers in speedball type games, no. Are there snipers in woods ball and scenario, yes. But all of the people saying they can hit people from 200+ ft right in the goggles are lying or they got one lucky shot. 200 ft is almost 67 yards which is a long way to accurately shoot a paintball onto an object that is less than 12" by 12".

[elTwitcho]

Originally posted by Crime Dog
No good can come out of this question. It's been beat into the ground countless times... I'd like to ask the Mod in charge of this forum to close this thread...

I'm keeping an eye on it. So far the replies have been good. If it turns into an argument, I'm on it

[snipinhick]

I hate to see it... BUT IF THE PERSON IS VISABLE AT 200 FT. Then chances are you are too. I think that the EFFECTIVE range in the woods is at the most 30 yards. Thats about as far as i ever see anyone..

[Chad51]

Most of the time we don't spot each other until we are less then 50 feet but where I play there are a bunch of trails with long clear oporatunities if you are in the right situation! As far as whether or not it is the accuracy I am not 100% sure but I quess I at least got a few lucky shots!

[ColdFusion]

me and my freinds debate this a lot most say no(me included) but i started this thread to see what others had to say.

[Smakman]

I think some people get sniping and sharpshooting confused. Sniping does not necissarily have to take place from a distance farther than what might be considered normal. Sharpshooting usually does. Hence there is sniping in paintball, but there couldn't be sharpshooting as distance is not a factor, except maybe in the case of the flatline, which is nominal.

[ColdFusion]

the flatline gives more range but not more acuracy so it would not be a good "sniper barrel"

[Chad51]

I don't use a flatline but I play with someone who does and if it is help straight he can put 1 ball ontop of another from 100-150 feet. That isn't exactly terrible accuracy!

[Smakman]

I don't have any gripes about accuracy with mine either except that it will absolutely not tolerate ANY paint or oil in it at all. A flatline has to be ABSOLUTELY clean and instlled properly.

[RecklessFable]

I don't know why people think that you have to be ### yards away to call it sniping. If you are concealed and at decent range, in the relativity of the paintball world, you are sniping.

I really don't understand why people get upset with the use of the word. I'm not talking about the people who are worried about the "image"of the sport.

Bascially, I think of sniping in paintball as ambushing at range. Or is ambush too non-PC too? :sleep:

Oh yeah, HAVE FUN OUT THERE! :D

[Smakman]

I'm with you, Reckless!

[death]

i'm pretty sure paint will not fly 200 ft and break.

[Cerberust]

Originally posted by Smakman
I think some people get sniping and sharpshooting confused. Sniping does not necissarily have to take place from a distance farther than what might be considered normal. Sharpshooting usually does. Hence there is sniping in paintball, but there couldn't be sharpshooting as distance is not a factor, except maybe in the case of the flatline, which is nominal.


Like i said, the definition of sniping is shooting from a concealed position, so even in speedball if someone runs up to a bunker and they dont know your on the other side, and you creep around and shoot them from 5 feet away, thats technically sniping.

i agree though, people get the definitions mixed up. check the dictionary yall.

[Chad51]

The balls I use are Zap Sport Series and they brake at 200 feet. (If you mean with a flatline I dunno I hear even though they go farther the balls slow down quicker.) The shell is fairly thin but I have never broken one of them in may gun! As far as sniping goes I consider it shooting at someone that doesn't see you and take as few shots as you can to hit them. (Usually 1 or 2)

As far as hitting a target at 200 feet I have done it quite a few times and hit the target more often then not. Maybe I have some good luck I dunno but it is posible!

[snipinhick]

Do you even know how long 200 feet is? Its about 2 1/2-3 speed ball fields at at length, and to make my old phantom even reach that distance, i had to put at least a 30-45 degree angle on my shot... next time you think you shot somthing at 200 feet and hit them count the paces. Then report back with news that dissapoints you.

[Chad51]

I have never actually measured the distance but I have messured shot up to 150 feet. The 200 feet shots are estimates. I would highly dought it would be below 175 feet. I could say it might be a little below 200 though.

[ColdFusion]

if you say you regularly shoot people at 200 feet you are full of it
dude

[Magnus55]

I think even 100ft is a stretch for most guns to get the paint to break on the person. And in woodlands games there are hanging branches, grass, winds and other things to contend with in getting an accurate shot. But I still say yes, there are snipers in woodlands style paintball. Maybe not with the type of range you guys are talking about, but snipers none the less.

[Paint Bulley]

SNEAKY HIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


That is sniping, getting someone when they dont know its coming, at least to me.

side note: sneaky hit orriginated from perfect dark by asking team mates to help you do something and then putting remote mines on them, letting them walk away and blowing them into oblivion without them knowing what happened.. then you yell SNEAKY KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now you know the history.

[RC_Weasul]

the only time you can really snipe is in woodsball... setting an ambush etc... anything to suprise your opponent when he isnt expecting it.. personally i like to run around balls out but whatever works for you

[UTLadiesMan]

Ok, here's what I think happened.

1) A group of people started calling themselves 'sniper' meaning the public at large definition of accuracy at distance.
2) Someone said that hitting people that far away consistantly is B.S. and started making fun of said group.
3) Someone in said group, understandibly upset, looked up the definition for 'sniper' to see if they had a loophole. True definition and loophole were then discovered.
4) People continually argue about it in a never ending cycle that just frustrates everyone.

So, here is what I suppose. Since most of the controversy hinges around the definition of a 'sniper' or 'to snipe', let's just avoid the whole thing. Let people that Shoot From A Concealed Area now be known as SFACAs. Like all words that are added to the english language through acronyms, we can change the forms to fit our means. (e.g. I sfacad him bad!, or I am a sfacar) Now, if you really do mean that you shoot from a concealed location, you can call yourself a sfacar, and you sfaca people. If you claim to have great accuracy at distance, you can continue to call yourself a sniper. As long as we don't confuse the two, we should never have any problems, but as I see it (based on the current and previous polls as well as the discussions up to now), half of the paintball population uses the dictionary definition of 'sniper' and the other half uses the public at large definition. However, if we have two terms that mean precisily two different things with no ambiguity, then everyone should be happy. Some newbies will call themselves snipers and be the target of others ridicules, and all of the experienced players who know better will be able to call themselves sfacars and will be granted dignity and respect by the other half of the paintball population. Not to mention, it gives us another fun word to use at dinner and annoy people with.

Thank you,
-Eric

[Chad51]

The next time I get a chance I will measure the distance to see just how far it is... (Lets not start a flame war over this!)

Anyway about the "SFACA" thing it could be a good idea but I think you would need something else instead... I think you are onto something. As for weather it will kick in that is hard to say and would take a long time!

[snipinhick]

Ok, Did some testing today... At a 45 degree angle, and at roughly 180 (flat) surface (soccer field) my maker hit the tarp at 142 1/4 feet. The paintball broke, but thats because it was 15 degrees and it was be paint:rolleyes: There was no wind and idea conditions... so your telling me that you can hit someone in the goggels at 200?:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Forgot to add that my gun was cronoing at about 260...

[UTLadiesMan]

Try it at 300, and at a 30* angle. I just want to know. Thanks.

[snipinhick]

might if i can sneek out there tomarrow... but i have to work, and its supposed to be windy and more on the cold side... i will more then likly break the paint at that temp.

[UTLadiesMan]

Well, if it's a bother you don't have to. I was just curious, and don't have any place I can go try stuff like that... :|

thanks though