Ok, the TES is starting to get weird...

[alpha20]

Well, yesterday, a forum member told me to lower my reg to 350-400 PSI in order for it to recock... and it did, for about 4 hours of play today. Now, it will either burp and not recock, or it will shoot once and not recock... I have changed the pressures correctly in my stock reg. from scratch, but to no avail.

What is the problem? I heard that my hammer could not be giving a tight enough seal, or that my reg. is really screwed up. Is this right?

My setup (if this helps) is as follows:
-Dragun TES
-Stock Regulator and pressure gauge
-J&J Ceramic Barrel
-Stock Bolt, Hammer, all internals
-Empire Reloader
-Co2 Tanks

Any ideas?

Thanks!

[alpha20]

...anyone????

[teswkit]

Ok, here's what would i do.
Take out my striker and get sand paper, sand it, and polish it.
Then check all o-rings.
After that i would take out the sear and sear spring.
I would sharpen the sear and make sure its not dull, and then i would stretch the spring.
AFter all that i would oil it up really good.

[alpha20]

well, that didn't work.... now what?

man i'm getting disillusioned by this gun!
:pissed:

[teswkit]

did you do everything i said?

check for leaks

[alpha20]

yeah, I did everything! It really is confusing the he*l outta me. Could it be the reg? Or the valve?

[Z315]

being an owner of a TES requires patients and lots of will to get one of these things to work. and believe me, we all gone through the same thing you did. well, most of us. Some thing that seemed to help me with this recocking issue is buying a new high pressure stem valve. that will allow more air in your marker and hopefully get rid of the problem. also, you might consider getting a new bolt. because the stock one dose extensive wear to the gun.
i had the same problems too. hope this helps

[alpha20]

Yeah I heard about the HP Valve from actionvillage but I never heard about the bolt... it looks fine to me. But I guess I will try that.

Is it true that the problem could also lie with either the reg. or the hammer? I was told by someone that my hammer wasn't giving enough of a seal, although it does look like it's fine.

[Psycho_warden]

The TES was prone to bad valves. The guys at my proshop said that they send everyone back because of bad valves. So that could be the problem.

[alpha20]

I'll give you the sequence of events:

1. I put an expansion chamber on my TES (the gun was shooting intermittently at the time)
2. Took expansion chamber off of gun, and put stock reg back on.
3. Had a pro at a proshop tune the reg into the upper 300's lower 400's PSI.
4. Shot the gun almost all day, with only minor recocking problems (half cocking, or not cocking, I only had to recock it once and it worked.)
5. After the 5 hours I played, I can't get the gun to shoot more than once; I pull the trigger, it goes bang, and nothing else.

:confused:

What confuses me is that when I put the reg back on, it worked fine for awhile, but as the day progressed, it started to half cock, etc. Is this a likely case for a valve problem, a reg. or my using co2? Or is it a combination of things?

[wulf1010]

have you adjusted your reg since your proshop had it? Also do you have a guage on your gun?. If so check to make sure you didnt get reg creap. It will more then likely be your striker oring that has gone bad if its an oring, um.....the valve stem seems to be a good fix for alot of problems.

oh another question, did you only try shoot your gun at the field, or have you since aird it up and tryed again? (im guessing you did but i figgured i should check)

If liquid co2 got past your regulator and expanded in side your va/valve chamber, you could have had excessive pressure.

[alpha20]

No, I didn't adjust my reg. since my proshop did it, in fear of messing it up. After it started not recocking, I started changing the pressures in hopes of making it work. No pressure seemed to make it work, low, medium, or high.

The funny thing is, there isn't an o-ring on my striker- the Draguns have different ones then Spyders and the like- is there supposed to be one on a stock TES striker?

Yeah, I have tried numerous times to make the gun shoot, both today, last night, and afternoon. So I presume that it rules out the liquid co2 getting past my reg. and expanding...

It has piqued my curiousity about this whole o-ring thing on the striker-- can anyone send me a pic. of their stock TES striker so I could compare it to mine?

I mean, all o-rings were fine, but that one on the striker is the only thing in question. I am hoping that's the problem.

If my striker is the same, I may try the valve thing, or I may also invest in my friends Impy... it has new ano, tapeworm, max-flo, magnetic trigger, fbm feedneck, all for $360... might be worth a shot. :D

[wulf1010]

check that out, it might help you.
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=314412

[half-step]

The striker seal is not an o ring. It is a flapper style seal.

Have you pulled the cup seal and valve pin out to check them? Make sure the cup seal has not come loose on the valve pin. They have tendency to do that. Sometimes the threads will strip out of the cup seal. If it is loose, just use some loctite and tighten it back down.

Have you cleaned and re-lubed the marker?

[alpha20]

Yeah the valve looks fine... actually, what I did (because I was angry and just wanted to give it a shot) was put a spyder rear cocking ACS bolt in with a spyder striker, lubed it up real good, and it shoots fine... my only problem now is the fact that it shoots two balls when there is a ball in the chamber, but shoots only one when there isn't one in the chamber... weird, huh?

[half-step]

You may have an issue with the spyder striker and the dragun sear. I have read that most peope say they are not compatible. Try putting the spyder sear on your TES and see if that helps.

[DarkeWolf]

also check to see if the spyder bolt is shorter than the tes bolt. I guess that its possible that a ball is doing rollback, and letting another one down into the breech.

[alpha20]

well it (the spyder bolt) seems slightly smaller than the dragun, but its not that bad of a thing... it doesnt chop, so what do i care? besides, i'm getting an imp soon. btw, thank you so, so, so much for your help, i really appreciate it everyone!