leaking tapewerm

[pbplayer992001]

Hellow i went to play today and my gun was leaking around the tapewerm and i was woundering how too fix this.

[ase]

more specific....are you using co2 or hpa? did you install it yourself?

[DeAtH^MaTrIx]

Its probably not in tight enough...remember you need to use loctite.

[pbplayer992001]

Im useing hpa and i did install it my self then i went to the owner of the feild and he has impy he looked at it and put some loc tight on it and it helped but it still had a slight leak. it did not effect play in any way.

[Team Chokepoint]

Try using teflon tape.

[pbplayer992001]

i did about 10 min ago and put my nitrogen tank on and it still had a little leak

[speedy2k4]

change the o-rings? if the o-rings are doin fine, and are greased, you wouldn't even need loc-tite.

[pbplayer992001]

the oring were changed at the feild and lubed at the feild.

[the Ydna]

ehh, I would suggest replacing them again. They're 9/70 o-rings

[ase]

what is yor input pressure?

[speedy2k4]

Originally posted by ase
what is yor input pressure?
good call, if it is too high, they won't hold.

[pbplayer992001]

right bellow 200psi

[ase]

but it seems like it would leak at the prv before it got to the tapeworm, or does the tapeworm leak at a lower pressure than the prv?

[speedy2k4]

Originally posted by ase
but it seems like it would leak at the prv before it got to the tapeworm, or does the tapeworm leak at a lower pressure than the prv?
depends on the quality of the o-rings, and the setting of the prv. usually, 240psi for the prv, but the o-rings may or may not leak before that. i blow out my front cap o-ring around 220psi.

but if you are running right below 200psi, try lowering it to around 170, and change the o-rings again, and grease them.

[pbplayer992001]

i will try this.

[speedy2k4]

let us know how it goes :tup:

[pbplayer992001]

will do my freind:) .

[ase]

ya i forgot you had a RIP valve. lower it.

[speedy2k4]

so did i actually. with the rip valve, try 160psi, that is what i run. great consistancy and efficiancy.

[pbplayer992001]

i forgot that you have to lower the input presure with the R.I.P. valve

[ase]

Originally posted by speedy2k4
so did i actually. with the rip valve, try 160psi, that is what i run. great consistancy and efficiancy.

really? im running about 120. whats your dwell?

[speedy2k4]

my dwell is around 7ms, not sure exactly. lpr pressure is 75psi. i get between 286-291fps, around 1600 shots on my 70ci with a 4000psi fill. seems to work well. 120psi can wreck efficiancy.

[Team Chokepoint]

Hmm, maybe I should try raising my dwell. I have it at 5.7 or something, with 140 psi at 285 fps. I don't know how many shots I get, but I refill a lot.

[speedy2k4]

raising the dwell lowers efficiancy usually? you really shoot at 285fps with 140input and 5.7 dwell? maybe i should double check my dwell time. do you have an lpr? what pressure?

[ase]

i have an lpr, i dont know the lpr pressure, but i have 120 psi and about 6.0 dwell. its been a while since ive messed around with the pressure and dwell, i should probly re-do that process on kamworld.net

[speedy2k4]

well i remembered, my stuff might seem a bit higher, but i have really light internals- drilled out aluminum hammer, open face half cut drilled eq bolt, and a flat top skinny titanium pin. that could affect it too, heavier internals would give more force on the valve, and therefore higher velocities atr lower pressure and dwell, but would probably also require higher lpr pressures for effective cyclic speeds.

like our man TPD has said before, no two impulses are alike, so all this setting stuff can vary.

[Team Chokepoint]

Yep got the SCMII LPR, dunno what the pressure is. Its just enough to make the bolt cycle fully, plus 1/4 turn in. I've got the Ratified kit from epbl, so Slickshot, Ti pullpin (SP undrilled...idk why it wasn't the NDZ one), EQ bolt, and Ti drilled hammer. I think I'll try my aluminum hammer the next time I take my gun apart. Why would this kit come with a heavier hammer if it hurts performance (it comes with the RIP valve too)?

I also get weird consistency. Some times I shoot +/-1 at 285, other times I shoot +/- 15. And there are always some random shots that are +/- 25 or so. Could this be because I used to run anti-syphoned CO2 through my gun? I haven't changed the reg/noid/o-rings since I switched to HPA...

[speedy2k4]

those results would be common in co2, but if it continued after you made the switch to hpa, then maybe you need a new tune up.

[the Ydna]

Lower dwell is supposed to yield theoretically higher efficiency and lower consistency. but like you said he said, every gun is different.

Never set the dwell under 12 chirps.

[ase]

Originally posted by the Ydna


Never set the dwell under 12 chirps.

we have WAS :D

[speedy2k4]

Originally posted by ase


we have WAS :D
never get technical with the Ydna, it will bite. or, shut you down with a 27 letter word you couldn't ever hope to pronounce correctly.

[pbplayer992001]

i lowerd the input presure around 160 and i the think leaking went away.

[speedy2k4]

that would be a good thing :)

[pbplayer992001]

yes.yes it would:D

[the Ydna]

Originally posted by ase


we have WAS :D

lol....okay....6-ms for those with waz boards, or predators, or whatever else using full millisecond intervals.