Neccesities

[Jackal07]

I have friends who own Blazers and have nothing but good things to say about them. With so many options available you can custimize them however you want. What is the bear minimum for an effective Blazer. How much $$$?

[osustevie]

$398.00 will get you a r/h feed blazer with a 10.5 brass barrel. Checkout the PPS website under prebuilt blazers. I believe this is the bare minimum.

[Jackal07]

Is that with the air system included? What is the best set up for air with a blazer?

[osustevie]

Sorry, what do you mean by air system? The co2/hpa tank or a bottomline/asa? BLazer will run fine on co2 or 12 grams or hpa. your choice. no right or wrong way to do it.

[The Kampfer]

Best air ayatem for the blazer is two stab, with AS CO2.

[Psycho_warden]

Wow, I have never heard of anyone actually RECCOMENDING the use of co2 over HPA.

[osustevie]

Someone please correct me if Im wrong on this. CO2 expands significantly slower than HPA. The ball gets more time to come up to speed in the barrel. I believe this helps maintain ball shape in the barrel too. On a nice warm summer day CO2 is the way to go IMO. My Blazer loves to run on CO2. I use a remote and I can shoot a whole lot more paint from a 20oz. CO2 tank than my crossfire 68/3k HPA tank.

[snaretan]

Originally posted by osustevie
Someone please correct me if Im wrong on this. CO2 expands significantly slower than HPA. The ball gets more time to come up to speed in the barrel. I believe this helps maintain ball shape in the barrel too. On a nice warm summer day CO2 is the way to go IMO. My Blazer loves to run on CO2. I use a remote and I can shoot a whole lot more paint from a 20oz. CO2 tank than my crossfire 68/3k HPA tank.

I'll try to correct you here. CO2 is in a liquid form in the tank, HPA (High Pressure Air (or whatever it stands for)) is in a gas form.

So, HPA is under pressure in the tank (3000psi or 4500 psi depending on the tank).


Because of the physical properties of CO2, under certian tempertures, the pressure of it changes as the temperture changes (as well as % fill of the container it is in). http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/gasses/co2pv.gif Basicly, it regulates itself to maintain the same pressure, as long as temperature is constant.

Now, with every shot from an HPA marker, you lose pressure in your tank, since a little gets blasted out to propel the paintball. However, with a CO2 Tank, you may lose a little pressure, but you will get it back as the CO2 changes from it's liquid form into it's gas form (yes, it evaporates inside the tank). The tank just has to come back up to temperature since it just cooled down due to the release of pressure from it to fire the marker.

As for the speed of the different propelents released when you pull the trigger, all things would be equal assuming the same pressure is being released when the valve opens (I.E. you need to regulate the pressure on the CO2 just like you do the HPA), the kind of gas used to fire your marker wouldn't make any difference.

Depending on temp and the size of your tanks, it is quite possible to get more use from a CO2 tank than from an HPA tank. Also, since you are running a remote on that set up, you have the remote acting as an expansion chamber (by making it MUCH harder for liquid CO2 to make it to the marker), and also since the tank is mounted on your back, you have it breathing the CO2 from the top of the tank instead of sipping the CO2 out of the side (if the tank were mounted to your marker). It is also assumed that you are running a regulator (stabilizer) on the CO2 to keep it even more consistant.

[osustevie]

Originally posted by snaretan


I'll try to correct you here. CO2 is in a liquid form in the tank, HPA (High Pressure Air (or whatever it stands for)) is in a gas form.

So, HPA is under pressure in the tank (3000psi or 4500 psi depending on the tank).


Because of the physical properties of CO2, under certian tempertures, the pressure of it changes as the temperture changes (as well as % fill of the container it is in). http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/gasses/co2pv.gif Basicly, it regulates itself to maintain the same pressure, as long as temperature is constant.

Now, with every shot from an HPA marker, you lose pressure in your tank, since a little gets blasted out to propel the paintball. However, with a CO2 Tank, you may lose a little pressure, but you will get it back as the CO2 changes from it's liquid form into it's gas form (yes, it evaporates inside the tank). The tank just has to come back up to temperature since it just cooled down due to the release of pressure from it to fire the marker.

As for the speed of the different propelents released when you pull the trigger, all things would be equal assuming the same pressure is being released when the valve opens (I.E. you need to regulate the pressure on the CO2 just like you do the HPA), the kind of gas used to fire your marker wouldn't make any difference.

Depending on temp and the size of your tanks, it is quite possible to get more use from a CO2 tank than from an HPA tank. Also, since you are running a remote on that set up, you have the remote acting as an expansion chamber (by making it MUCH harder for liquid CO2 to make it to the marker), and also since the tank is mounted on your back, you have it breathing the CO2 from the top of the tank instead of sipping the CO2 out of the side (if the tank were mounted to your marker). It is also assumed that you are running a regulator (stabilizer) on the CO2 to keep it even more consistant.

OK, Does CO2 expand slower than HPA? Does CO2 work best on a warm day? Can you please tell me where you corrected me? Maybe I missed it in the response. Thanks for your help.

[zeroskulls12]

Yes and No. Yes . I could but..