Idea for a new hopper

[pbrascal37]

I have got an Idea for a new style of hopper

If paintball guns and hoppers have all kinds of electronics and can do everything under the sun including telling time counting balls in hoppers and calculating speed rates and yet people still always have trouble with misfeeds why don't they try something different.

They have designed different ways of trying to calculate when markers shoot so a ball can be in the chamber but the only thing they haven't tried yet it wiring the hopper directly to the gun via, the feedneck and having an independant battery source for both hopper and marker, this contraption would make sure that everytime the marker fires there is Always a ball in the chamber by using the electronics of the gun to know when it fires

[ANameThatWorks]

yeah its called breakbeam/bouncebeam eyes

[Gen0va]

Originally posted by ANameThatWorks
yeah its called breakbeam/bouncebeam eyes

No he's talking about having the hopper directly hooked up to the feedneck. That way, the gun and hopper will have one board and could operate much better.

[Bellicose]

I have heard of someone trying that before, but it took a lot of work. It was jsut a home job. I don't it is possible, unless you redo every single board on the market. This also makes the marker or hopper less versitile in my opinion.

[pbrascal37]

and there could be room for the "feeding board" by putting the 9v battery for the gun in the hopper where the board would normally be and thus having no batteries in the gun itself

[mastercheif_425]

my 2 cents :twocents::
this souds cool and they tried that with the intellifeed on the revvy and angel. it sounds like the only way you can get that is for the marker to also have in no way any blowback. thats all i can think of now.

[pbrascal37]

why couldn't the gun have any blowback?

[mastercheif_425]

blowback will push air up the feedneck so unless the stack of balls is really tight and there is no way for them go up then blowback is fine but still its better without it.

[Nicky]

how would u clean the gun?

[ANameThatWorks]

I still dont see what the point of it is, with eyes and a Halo and maybe an anti-chop bolt its about a billion to one chance of breaking paint


Ive got a qloader, no eyes, no antichop bolt and ive never broke paint or misfed through about 5 boxes of paint so far. and i run about 25 bps usually

[bobcool]

i just a a kit that links your T-board to a halo all you need is a soding iron the rest come with

[comando345]

Sounds a lot like an intellifeed, which means it is probably covered by AGD's patent. I think AGD owns that one, don't they?
Probably not too bad an idea, but you would have to have a really good hopper come with it for people to be happy.

[QuiksilverMV]

Angel and Odessy have already done that, look for the Angry Halo Board, its basically like intellifeed, the Angel tells the halo when to feed and when to stop.

[maxxa1221]

someone else on PBR mentioned this, but i dont think it was a serious idea. i think it would work well, but it would be a heck of alot of work.

[someday1188]

Originally posted by pbrascal37
I have got an Idea for a new style of hopper

If paintball guns and hoppers have all kinds of electronics and can do everything under the sun including telling time counting balls in hoppers and calculating speed rates and yet people still always have trouble with misfeeds why don't they try something different.

They have designed different ways of trying to calculate when markers shoot so a ball can be in the chamber but the only thing they haven't tried yet it wiring the hopper directly to the gun via, the feedneck and having an independant battery source for both hopper and marker, this contraption would make sure that everytime the marker fires there is Always a ball in the chamber by using the electronics of the gun to know when it fires

this has been thought of. it's called intellifeed and it is a very useful application, in theory. the problem is with the speed of today's loaders and the advent of anti-chop eyes, it's pretty much not needed. also, with intellifeed, you don't need to design a whole new hopper, you just attach a tiny little wire from your gun's electronics to the hopper's board, and the gun controls when the hopper activates, as opposed to the hopper waiting for a ball to drop to activate. i never really got intellifeed. i mean, who on earth is so speed-obsessed that they just can't stand that extra millisecond or two wasted waiting for the hopper to activate when it senses a lack of a ball. doesn't make much sense IMO.
Originally posted by ANameThatWorks

Ive got a qloader, no eyes, no antichop bolt and ive never broke paint or misfed through about 5 boxes of paint so far. and i run about 25 bps usually
no you don't.
Originally posted by comando345
Sounds a lot like an intellifeed, which means it is probably covered by AGD's patent. I think AGD owns that one, don't they?
Probably not too bad an idea, but you would have to have a really good hopper come with it for people to be happy.
i thought it was WDP that had it? o well i dunno :confused:.
Originally posted by maxxa1221
someone else on PBR mentioned this, but i dont think it was a serious idea. i think it would work well, but it would be a heck of alot of work.
not really, you just have to drill a tiny hole in the halo shell, attach the wire to the gun board, wire it up across the feedneck, and attach the wire to the hopper board. done. not that hard to do, all you need is a dremel really.


on a more off-topic note, who here thinks that a wireless intellifeed would be cool? i don't think it should be too rediculiously hard. you'd just need a transmitter, a reciever, and a little soldering knowledge i would think. it'd probably be a beast on batteries though :|

[Robomonkey]

Intellifeed, anyone?

[someday1188]

exactly what i thought when i first read the thread.

[GranDream]

Meh, Egg + eyes hasn't steered me wrong yet.

[papaintballer15]

on the starting post, by like the 3rd sentence i was like hmm.. intellifeed :P then scrolling down and seeing people say it.. I believe there is a intellifeed type style system that hooks to a halo B... which will keep the higher demand on fast feeding for guns, but then again.. halo's fast enough for most guns... Ive also seen intellifeed eggs...

[someday1188]

my point exactly gran.

[someday1188]

Originally posted by papaintballer15
on the starting post, by like the 3rd sentence i was like hmm.. intellifeed :P then scrolling down and seeing people say it.. I believe there is a intellifeed type style system that hooks to a halo B... which will keep the higher demand on fast feeding for guns, but then again.. halo's fast enough for most guns... Ive also seen intellifeed eggs...

ya there is a halo intellifeed on angels, it used to be one of their stronger selling points (the angels).

[pbrascal37]

I hadn't heard of intellifeed before so I guess it was a good idea if it has already been created and manufactured

oh and the way i ws thinking of it the hopper could be removable the contacts are just magnets around the feedneck of the gun attracting to a strip of metal in the hopper's feedneck

[ANameThatWorks]

dude dont tell me what i run and dont run

hitting 25bps isnt that hard and comes in handy when you wanna cover an area

[pbrascal37]

25 bps isn't hard with a ramping board

[someday1188]

take a look at his sig. last time i checked, no one makes spyder ramping boards, and on top of that a spyder can't even shoot 25. it can cycle it but try to put paint through it and it will A: become a blender, and B: have massive dropoff. as i recall even eff, god of all things spyder, could only get his to reliably shoot 16. hell even 18 is a feasable number with a t-board and a v-board halo. but consistent 25 is impossible. not ragging on spyders, it's just a design limitation.
Originally posted by ANameThatWorks
dude dont tell me what i run and dont run

hitting 25bps isnt that hard and comes in handy when you wanna cover an area
i am going to be telling you what you "run" and "don't run" because what you claim is impossible to achieve by both you and your gun. do you realize that the fastest fingers in the world con only shoot 24? and that your spyder can't even do 25 without the balls literally rolling out your barrel? have you even seen a gun shoot a true 25? do you even know what 25 looks or sounds like? i doubt it. you seem to be one of those people that thinks they can reach unheard-of speeds on a gun that can't even do it due to a basic design limitation. you can't even do 25 on a ramping board. however, if you truly believe that you can, in fact, shoot 25, and not cycle it, then i would like to see a video of you doing it, and i want that video goldwaved. until then i suggest you stop saying you shoot 25 to avoid total humiliation at your field of choice when A: you can't do it, or B: your gun is just massivley bouncing to 15 or something and you get kicked off the feild for bonus balling people.

i leave you with a quote i found a long time ago in a calvin and hobbes treasury and i suggest you take it to heart:
"Get your stories straight Mr. Brittanica."

:) :dodgy:

[Angelmarine05]

Hello smart ones. Since angels suck so badly...:rolleyes: Is that why they are able to have to Intellifeed? Which does connect the hopper and gun.

[someday1188]

who said angels suck? and yes, by now every person who has read this thread should know that angels do have intellifeed, which connects the hopper and gun. also intellifeed is a nice concept, and it might've been worth its weight in gold in the old days, but now there is really no use for it. the hoppers and guns are already too fast for your fingers and most tourney caps, so what is the point of speeding the hopper up more? the hopper's already fast enough, and if you're worried about chops, well that's what eyes were invented for. so in short, intellifeed is nice, but it really doesn't have a practical application anymore due to the fact that the hoppers availible(sp) today are already much faster than you will ever shoot, so the benifit gained by intellifeeding a gun, and giving the gun board control over when the hopper activates (as opposed to waiting the entire 2 MS for the hopper to activate on its own) is nearly pointless at this point in time. intellifeed was a very nice concept in its time, and it still is today, but other technologies have superceded the need for it. it was a must-have, and a great invention in its day, for that i give i credit. however in today's world of Halo's, BB eyes, and low pressure guns that can pinch paint rather than chop it, it is just not needed anymore.

:)