Electro vs. Semis

[StealthElephant]

Why would someone want to get an angel and shoot 20+bps? I mean...I'm n00b..lets remember. But I play in woods, and woods play is basically cover fire...move up, cover fire, move, and then it becomes speedball for the front players. When would you ever need to go full auto and empty your hopper that fast? I mean...my m98c shoots 3-5 BPS and if I just non-stop let loose I can hit a guy running in open...I hear about angels being the best tourney guns..but why? I know the internals are what make a gun more accurate/range then other guns, but BPS wise does an angel really outclass a m98c? Like, if both people are equal in skill does shoot 15+ more BPS matter in a game of speedball? Just wondering cause I was reading posts about m98c teams beating cocker/angel teams and was wondering if BPS really matters or if it's accuracy/skill.

[Magnus55]

Well paintball isn't exactly an accuracy sport. The guns and paintballs just aren't accurate and consistent enough yet for you to shoot just one shot and automatically get the other guy out. Normally you have to shoot several shots at him, and a few will hit, and maybe one or two will actually break on him. So this makes the number of rounds you can shoot an important factor in getting eliminations, not for just how much paint you can spray or how much cover fire you can lay down. Skill and ability is what gets you there so you can shoot the other guy. Bust statistically, when you do have that open shot at the other guy, the more paintballs you fire the better your chances of having one hit him and break.

[StealthElephant]

But overall BPS doesn't have a HUGE affect if you were play...say, hyperball(with pipes, think that's what it's called)...if 2 ppl are left 1v1, would an Angel vs. tippy matter? I mean, taking snapshots...20BPS wouldn't really matter right? The m98c does have a pretty nice trigger pull.

[Magnus55]

Yes but if the angel player is able to shoot 20bps, then he has 20 chances to get a ball to break on the tippmann player, as opposed to the tippman player shooting 3bps who has a much smaller chance of getting one of his balls to break on the angel player. If the angel player is shooting almost seven times what the tippmann player is, of course hes going to have the upper hand.

[StealthElephant]

I guess I could see how it works.......

[UTLadiesMan]

In paintball accuracy is measured by volume and consistency. The more shots you get off, and the smaller the pattern, the more chances you have statistically.

Also, an angel may shoot 20+bps, and a warp feed with a HALO on it might keep it from chopping too much in that range, but I can't pull the trigger that fast, and I know no one else can. Most people will set their markers to 12 or 13 bps. Ok, so it shoots let's say, 4 times faster than your Tippmann. When your both in the open, he'll get off 4 balls for every one you shoot. While snap shooting, good players can get off 3 or 4 balls, and you'd get off one. Now the 4 balls he sent at you will also be more consistent. Every time you pop out, you have 4 balls hitting somewhere near you, and he has 1 ball hitting not as near. The actual odds depend on cranking all of the numbers, and I don't know the spread, but let's just say he's got a much better chance of taking you down.

However, I know a guy who owned a Tippmann 98 (back before the 98c's), and he could rip up the guys with higher end guns. He didn't shoot too much faster, but he could move up on them, and flank them like I've never seen since. It doesn't matter how many bps you can put out if some guy appears 20 feet away on your back side. (also keep in mind, this was woods, not speedball)

[PoYsYn]

Yea, with an electro your bound to hit someone shooting 20 bps opposed to 2bps.. I'd suggest an electro, but a semi would work fine

[VeNoM]

electros are semis! no one can shoot 20bps on the field (1. shooting that fast would take time to get up to that rate 2. most guns CANT shoot that fast 3. loaders can't load paint that fast) but thats not the point . . . with an electro it takes much less effort to shoot so i find snap shooting incredibly easy with an electro. with my old shutter i would snap and pull back in and only be able to get 2 maybe 3 shots off in the process, now with my bushy i can get usually get about 6 all heading to the same basic spot, rather than 3 spread shots. . .

and just because an electro can shoot fast, doesn't mean "your bound to hit someone"