98C Cyclone; from conception to present

[TheSpy11]

Sorry if this has posted before, but I haven't seen it yet. The 98 Cyclone is almost here. $65 from Action Village when it is in stock.

Click here (www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=UpltXuD1C6NtNKIgmzCt9uo8Gqrp3nv3PAo=?Pro ductID=K4TAqArbI9cAAAEF9azBwgyC)

[papaintballer15]

i think its going to look weird on the 98... but it will sure perform better on the gun.. or hopefully anyway.. but now my a-5 isnt better then the 98.. oh wait yes it is, lighter trigger,smaller,not as long.

still pretty good idea for tippmann, now they just need to offer the a-5 in left or right side cyclone feed, id prefer left side.

[Raleigh Allen]

sounds cool.

[k00leo]

woohoo no more choping!

[k00leo]

R/T + Rico AK = Chop City :(


Dam, I should just turn it down. But than again, thats no fun.

[papaintballer15]

notice the title and first sentence say almost here.. :rolleyes:

people these days..:eyes:

[TheSpy11]

Originally posted by papaintballer15
notice the title and first sentence say almost here.. :rolleyes:

people these days..:eyes:


:nod: Exactly. Nobody knew precisely when it was coming out or the exact price. I assume that the Cyclone will be available very soon if they have their ad ready. Now all we need is a picture to see what it looks like. I see some changes on the horizon for the A-5, possibly a lower price. Since the Cyclone is only $65, A Custom Pro Basic w/ Cyclone is $225. Same as the A-5 for a better package. The Custom Pro-E would be about $275 w/Cyclone. A much better deal then the A-5 w/ E-grip.

[Meph]

I still prefer my field strip design of the A-5 over the 98 or Custom Pro.

To me that's well worth how ever much more it costs.


Then again I don't pay for this stuff so I can't comment :D

[TheSpy11]

Here you go...
Stickies are your friend (www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=314498)

[Meph]

It drinks elf blood for the energy to move. That's how the Cyclone works.

[Satanicsanta090]

you tell it like it is meph :D

and man you guys gotta stop *****ing about ur a5s and stuff man..... people buy the m98 over the a5 all the time......
Why? cuz all the a5 has over the 98 is:
faster field stripping
a plastic grip frame (not good)
better flatline (most ppl dont want one)
cyclone feed
a few design differences that dont matter
lighter stock trigger spring (that you dont even need to have on a m98)

so thats 110 dollars more for a cyclone feed now valued at 65. A trigger spring thats lighter (easily fixed free of charge on the 98 by removing the 98 trig spring) and faster stripping (easily obtained in a 98 by doing a quick strip mod, also doesnt cost money)

the only time I would ever THINK of buying an a5 is if I suddenly want a decent flatline and egrip and pay 450 plus for it

[TheSpy11]

For those who haven't seen the 98 Cyclone, this is some older pictures from Warpig. I had forgotten about the pictures; They are in the middle of the page. It says it was scheduled to be released in July. I guess that Tippmann is about right on time.

Link (www.warpig.com/paintball/tournament/psp/2005/orlando/vendors/index.shtml)

[Satanicsanta090]

niice, just loooks a bit ugly on the tippy cuz its too fat and the 98's a bit skinny....
cool how it flips down still though....
nice alternative for rt use other than buying a warpfeed, halo b, or a qloader

[zack290enig]

So sleek and sexy.:love:

[TheSpy11]

It sure does look cool. Unfortunately it doesn't show a front view. I wish the A-5 version could flip down. That will be very handy to clean a ball break.

[dazz951]

pm me if you know where i can find out how to do the quick strip mod for the 98

[papaintballer15]

theres a thread on it, search....

[TheSpy11]

Originally posted by DiabloPaint3
How many balls can the cyclone hold?

The Cyclone itself will hold about 20-30 balls, I think.

[TheSpy11]

You need a hopper that's made specifically for the Cyclone. The Ricochet R5 is a good, cheap option. A Cyclone hopper has like a twist-lock system to secure it. A regular 200rd hopper will not work.

[John Sullivan]

yeah i got my r-5 today.it looks awesome.definately go with smoke color.:)

[SEAL34]

Does the R5 really have rubber on the inside? Does it help any with the sound? I'm debating whether ot not to get one. They're like 12 bux right?

[TheSpy11]

Originally posted by SEAL34
Does the R5 really have rubber on the inside? Does it help any with the sound? I'm debating whether ot not to get one. They're like 12 bux right?

No, the standard R5 doesn't have a rubber interior. It is, in fact, a very load hopper. The plastic is thin and hard, making paint rattle. There is a "sniper" version that quiets it down, but it costs more.

[John Sullivan]

ive never seen r-5s with the rubber inside.canyou buy it seperately?i love my new r-5.

[TheSpy11]

They make a foam liner to help quiet the R5 down. They can be found on eBay and can be purchased seperately as an add-on to the R5.

[John Sullivan]

ihave a smoke one.would that keep me from being able to see my paintballs(the whole reason i got smoke color)

[TheSpy11]

I'm certain that it will. You can't see through it, so the lid is the only way to check your paint level. I'm afraid that you're out of luck this one Sullivan. :( I have the black R5 and so I might look into getting one.

[John Sullivan]

that sucks.they should make a clear liner so that in the smoke r-5s you could still see through it.

[CountyPaintball]

We'll be carrying them as well. We have an order in with Tippmann. As soon as they're released, some are shipping our way.

[devilnevel]

hey mike, do you know how much you're planning on selling them for?

[CountyPaintball]

I'm not sure what the price is yet, but we'll sell it for the lowest price allowed.

[devilnevel]

That's what I like to hear.

[John Sullivan]

can you go lower than action vill's 65?

[TheSpy11]

Originally posted by CountyPaintball
We'll be carrying them as well. We have an order in with Tippmann. As soon as they're released, some are shipping our way.


Any word on when they will be released? Tippmann said that it would be this month.

[CountyPaintball]

Last I heard Tippmann is shipping them on July 25th. That means we should have them around the 27th or 28th. AV is probably selling at MAP too, so that will likely be the going price.

I'm not sure if it comes with the standard A5 Hopper, but if it does you should be able to get about 200 balls in there.

The Pro Team Low Profile TAC Cap should also fit, so you can reduce your profile even more.

http://www.countypaintball.com/images/tac_cap.jpg (http://www.countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item=2859)

Mike

[1ofkind]

The Cyclone for the 98C has shipped and is now available.
Linkage. (http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=W9521U2gZ8F28A9MYtW2fUdppDPvBuIPKqs=?Pro ductID=K4TAqArbI9cAAAEF9azBwgyC#)

threads merged
-Coenen

[iliveforthis99]

I'd rather get a revi or a reloader.

[Raleigh Allen]

There was already a thread about this.:rolleyes:

[devilnevel]

it doesnt matter. it just came out on thurs. now we can actually talk about it and not the release. im ordering mine this week.

[Raleigh Allen]

Im probably not going to get it. Probably will get a eggy 2 or a ricochet apache.

[TheSpy11]

Originally posted by Raleigh Allen
There was already a thread about this.:rolleyes:


Mine. :P Linky (www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=322957)

I see the picture is up now.


Someone was selling them on eBay and I think they said it started shipping last Monday.

[John Sullivan]

id still take a centerfeed and egg.

[TheSpy11]

I probably wouldn't. If I had my 98c yet, the Cyclone would be my choice.

[E r y k]

humm 64 bucks... not bad.

it would be much better than using 4 9v batts at a time. (warp + rev)

[devilnevel]

as for the centerfeed and the eggy, thas like $120-130. i would rather spend $54 and get a reliable 15 bps and use the money for something else like paint. plus i wont need batteries. and as for getting an egg w/ no centerfeed, i was told that the elbow on the 98c limits the feeding to around 13 bps. overall, the cyclone is going to b a great upgrade for the 98c owners. smart move for tippmann.

[Canderous]

Anyone have one yet??? I just got $100 and might get one once a review is out.

[TheSpy11]

Originally posted by Canderous
Anyone have one yet??? I just got $100 and might get one once a review is out.

Why not be the first to have it? :tup:

[Canderous]

I know but i dont want it to suck or make my marker profile a lot bigger.

[devilnevel]

ill b ordering mine this week, so when it comes in and i install it, a review will b posted.

[paintballdog123]

woah couny has an account on pbreview? i never kne that... lol... yea pbreview didnt have a place for the cyclone so i put one in.. i dont have a cyclone jsut yet so i didnt put a review

[CountyPaintball]

:) I've been around here since the beginning. I don't find the time to post very often, but I usually do a quick scan of the post topics and read whatever jumps out at me.

We've got them in now but I haven't had any time to really check them out yet.

[John Sullivan]

Originally posted by paintballdog123
woah couny has an account on pbreview? i never kne that... lol... yea pbreview didnt have a place for the cyclone so i put one in.. i dont have a cyclone jsut yet so i didnt put a review

well duh county is teh pimp11!!1!1!!!eleventy1

hey county will you ever carry jcs products?

[paintballdog123]

I KNOW!!! COUNTY IS MY FAVORITE WEBSITE!!!! lol 1 thing tho... the response trig or the 98 customs a lil expensive... :P lol

[catalicnate0]

Spam, harassment and abusive language will get you banned.

--Lopez

[CountyPaintball]

Looks like MAP dropped from $75 to $70. Price going down to match.

We try to stay with MAP (Minimum Allowed Price) on everything we sell. Sometimes the manufacturer lowers it without us knowing so we need someone to point it out.

[TheSpy11]

How come A-Village is at $65? That would be under MAP.

[TheJealous]

They are HxC like that.....

[devilnevel]

my friend and i just ordered them from county yesterday for $60.

[InFeStEd]

quit locking the threads. I have looked in each cyclone feed thread and no one has reviewed them yet. The only topic with any real posts in it is the "Cyclone almost here" one and IT DOES NOT review.



Someone please review the cyclone feed system IN THIS THREAD.


If there is an actual thread somewhere that has a review then pls pm me or link me. thanks.

[grenadegloves]

I dont know how many different people have told you this, its ALMOST here. No one has used. How can we review. Only from the few pics available

[InFeStEd]

I don't know what part of Canada you're from but you can purchase them here in BC..... My local PB store caries them, i just wanna hear about them before i purchase. Also, a lot of US online stores, as well as tippmann, sell them.

[E r y k]

correct me if im wrong, but i think ive seen the cyclone for sale on some online sites?

[InFeStEd]

you are correct. And usually it says right below it...

OUT OF STOCK ahahah

they sold like hotcakes. So don't tell me no one has one yet and its almost here.

[LastMaxim]

I intend to have one by X-mas, so if no one else posts anything by then, i certainly will (i'll likely have it long before, but if not it'll be a definate Christmas present, even if it has to be from me :D )

[Stan the HitMan]

Originally posted by grenadegloves
I dont know how many different people have told you this, its ALMOST here. No one has used. How can we review. Only from the few pics available


Here's my revie on the CYCLONE PICS

STRAIGHTS:
looks cool
can accept R5
is sexy from this angel

WEAKNESS:
Isn't out yet
isn't sexy from thi other angel
my monitor isn't a 50 inch plasma screen

Review:
Appears to work like the A5 cyclone, how or why i do not yet know, but one things for sure, it will attach to a tippmann 98 elbow. Also it appears to work off of un used gas sort of like the a5 version, which is still a mystery to most. There are pictures of T fitting as seen on A5 cyclones with response triggers so from what i gather it will work with a T fitting for 98 response triggers. WOW I DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE COMING

conclusion:
Wait for the "In stock" light to glow.

[..!..('_')..!..]

Ya if you want a review just ask the A-5ers how they like it.

[InFeStEd]

1) IT IS OUT!

2) A5'ers how do you like it?

[TheSpy11]

1) No one has had it long enough to give a good review yet. Be patient.

2) Yes, I like it. Check A-5 reviews for more peoples' thoughts on the Cyclone.



3) Coenen closed one of your threads on this already. It's not a good idea to make another thread.

[k00leo]

This thread is retarted. If you want a review for a 98c cyclone just look at the A-5 Cyclone. There the same.

[ghilliesnipe]

It isnt exactly the same. From what I learned from Meph, the A5 cyclone/rt runs off of blowback gas. The 98 cyclone/rt runs straight from the valve. This causes a slight difference in timing, so they had to raise the 98cyclone by one ball diameter higher than the A5 cyclone. This means there is a one ball "stack" with the 98 cyclone while there is no stack at all with the A5.

I'm not sure what this will mean performance-wise(chopping, misfeeding, gas consumption). Im interested in hearing some good unbiased reviews.

[paintballdog123]

dude u cna buy one at countypainball and actionvillage... i bought one and it works... i reviewed it check it out

[InFeStEd]

it is not like the A5, not only was it raised, it is also attacked to a different elbow feeding system and can be tilted.

[paintballdog123]

well it does the same thing as an a5 cyclone... lol

[InFeStEd]

well all electronic hoppers do the same thing so why are some better and some worse :P the different ways they feed and operate. The 98c cyclone does operate a bit different than the A5, i mean it IS a different gun.

[paintballdog123]

well yea... but lol... wait....... uhhh yea its a diff gun.... the way its set up is kinda diff but it still does the same thing... feed by using excess gas..

[LastMaxim]

Originally posted by paintballdog123
dude u cna buy one at countypainball and actionvillage... i bought one and it works... i reviewed it check it out
OK, since you actually have one (and after reading your review), I'm wondering if you could compare the A5 cyclone with this one? Is it actually higher (I'd love it if you'd measure the new cyclone, and post actual dimensions :D)? Are there any other differences between the two?

Also, how does it compare with, say, a standard gravity feed/electric hopper (as in height, width from the marker) when it's on the marker? The only thing that could possibly give me some concern is if it adds much to the 98c's profile (bigger target). Does it add much weight to the marker (say over and above what an electric hopper would)?

Finally, what sort of modifications are necessary to install the cyclone on the 98c?

Thanks.

[paintballdog123]

well its a little different than a A5 and havent really compared with a a5 but im pretty sure the feed necks a lil bit longer.. like half an inch?? and i dont have my marker on me right now its at my cabin which i go to like every half month or so, so i can give u measurements... im sorry...:( compared to a standard gravity feeder id say its well... bigger... but it feeds a lot faster than it... since the gravity feeder doesnt have any like screwed or knobs and pullys attatched to it that takes up extra space its not as big... compared to a electric hopper.. the electric hopper still a lil bit smaller because the feed necks not as thick... the cyclone does add some width to the marker because it sticks out on the side.. imo i dont think it really adds a bigger target.... its pretty much the same as a normal hopper except it adds a lil bit of plastic at the side and the hopep that comes with is a lil odly shaped like all a5 hoppers but u can get a r5 so its all good.... as for what modifications are neccesary im not really getting what ur asking.....u mean what tools u need to install?? all th tools u need are in hte maintenence pack u get when u get gun.. if you have any mroe questions ask away im pretty sure i covered all that u asked

[LastMaxim]

Thanks. That does give me a general idea. I'd still appreciate it if you take a measuring tape with ya next time you head out to the cabin *grin*.

As for 'modifications, I was assuming it had to be hooked up to the powertube of the marker in some way...but since I've never actually seen one for the 98c, I really have no idea.

[paintballdog123]

sure ill i have measuring tape there cuz my dad was recently making some changes around the house and measuring stuff lol.. .and for the modification stuff it does have to and its kidna hard to explain if ur local proshop has one ask them to show it to you if not and ur looking to buy one, just buy it and see for urself... mine for some reason didnt come with a manual for it and im not sure if they do come with one but ive seen insides of a5s be4 and i had a reasonable idea about how to do it so i got it :P lol

[tippmannkidd]

it is only teh $60!

linkey...

http://www.tippmannparts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=725&categoryID=8

[ghilliesnipe]

Paintballdog123's grammar is poor, but he more or less speaks some truth. When he says it is a 1/2 inch taller, well that more or less corresponds to a .68 of an inch paintball.

If you have a basic non-rt 98c, then you will need the RT type power tube and have to go through changing powertubes(for a beginner, it is a royal PITA)(Pain in the A**). You will get through it with some patience, intelligence and sobriety(in my case).

Good luck.

[LastMaxim]

I'm a handy sort of fella ;). Which is one reason I wanted the 98c as well...I've modded the thing to death, lol (Though I don't have an RT trigger, I have a good idea how it goes on the marker). I'm sure I won't have any trouble with it. Thanks guys. I'll add to the review as soon as I get mine :D (gotta hunt one down in Canada first)

[paintballdog123]

yes i have horriable gramer... mainly is im asian and my english teachers sucked ***... one was obbsessed with plays and didn nothing but plays the rest were idiots .......

[InFeStEd]

does the cyclone kit come with everything you need to mod ur stock 98c?

[paintballdog123]

yes but if u have a rt u ahve to buy a t fitting

[Coenen]

*Threads Merged*

I closed your others b/c I only want one thread on this, all threads containing new Cyclone info were merged with this one. All repetitive threads, being that they were repeating information already readily available or contatining nothing of use were closed or deleted for being unnessecary.

We now have a comprehensive thread, from the very first news about the 98C Cyclone on through release and hopefully some reviews. Not that we don't already know what it's going to do or anything.

If you post another separate thread on this I'm going to be a little bit miffed.

Read me? Good.

[wolf tippy]

hi im new to the forum and was also interested in this new tippman upgrade for the 98.

So paintball dog what u are saying is that if u have an rt trigger u need to mod the gun? because thats the opposite of what ghilliesnipe is saying, ie if u dont have the rt u need to mod it.
So which is it?

thanks in advance

[devilnevel]

i just got mine and installed it today because i was gone all week. i will have a full report tomorrow after my tourny because i am currently out of air for the night. so tomorrow be ready for a thorough review. based on looks, it does make the right side of the gun an enormous target, but we shall see how it works tomorrow.

[devilnevel]

alright. i actually got some air tonight from a friend. we fired about 250 rounds in my backyard like 1/2 hr ago. the cyclone was doing fine. i had my egrip on semi, but we found the sweetspot and maxed it out. there were some breaks, but i think its do the crappy paint. also, the board is faster than the cyclone, so there might have been some chops. i am not sure. overall, i am very pleased. i want to see tomorrow how much of a difference it makes, so i will post after the tourny again.

[devilnevel]

they cyclone performed great in conjunction with my e-grip. my tourny was limited to semi, and people with shockers were in awe after seeing my tippmann shoot. the cyclone keeps up great. i only had a few probs. the paint i had was worrpaint practice paint, and it sucked. there was a lot of humidity, and the balls would swell and get caught in the bolt. the cyclone, however, on the custom pro can be tilted to the side for an easy quick fix to this prob. it does not really make it much more of a target. i got hit in the hopper once, and it bounced off my bunker. basically it was a great investment to any 98c or custom pro owners. my friends are all planning on getting them.

[TheSpy11]

All this 98 Cyclone talk has me wanting my old 98c.:( I probably would have kept it if the 98 Cyclone would have come out a year sooner.


On a another note, is the A-5 going to get a price trimming? The Custom Pro w/ optional Cyclone is just a much better deal right now.

[Nex2005]

if i already have an r/t installed, do i need to reinstal the new powertube that comes with it? i really dont want to have to take my marker apart again, its a pain in the *** really.

[SEAL34]

Hey devilnevel, think you can make a vid of the Cyclone? THat would be cool...

[Sickmall]

I haven't seen a deffinate response to the question of whether you need a new power tube if you have an rt. Anyone want to enlighten me?

[devilnevel]

ill see what i can do about the video. my dad doesnt trust me with things, so i wont b able to use his. ill get my friend to help me w/ it.

[steve551098]

:sleep: :goody: it is here and it looks cool the best thing and also the cheapest it an 98 with RT, flatline, and cyclone and wat ever other little things u wana put on it like sights dubble triggers

[John Sullivan]

We know.:rolleyes: :P

[AsHaDoW]

is the powertube that it comes with is fully functional or do u have to take stuff out of the old pt??

[TheSpy11]

Originally posted by AsHaDoW
is the powertube that it comes with is fully functional or do u have to take stuff out of the old pt??

Should be, but don't take my word 100%. I don't think Tippmann would throw that in there if it didn't work though.

[ghilliesnipe]

Originally posted by Coenen
*Threads Merged*

I closed your others b/c I only want one thread on this, all threads containing new Cyclone info were merged with this one. All repetitive threads, being that they were repeating information already readily available or contatining nothing of use were closed or deleted for being unnessecary.

We now have a comprehensive thread, from the very first news about the 98C Cyclone on through release and hopefully some reviews. Not that we don't already know what it's going to do or anything.

If you post another separate thread on this I'm going to be a little bit miffed.

Read me? Good.


I could of sworn i was the first to bring news about the 98 cyclone. meh, whatever.
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=307092

[devilnevel]

you have to take your valve out of your current powertube. then you just shove it into the new PT and you're good to go.

[AsHaDoW]

is there n e thing in there that i'm gonna lose when i pull it out cuz that would just be my luck:pissed: and it might sound stupid but is there n e "special" stuff i gotta do or just pull it out and put it in the other one?

[TheSpy11]

Just do it in an area that little parts can be seen if something does happen.

[devilnevel]

the valve should not fall apart on you. the pieces should stay put in the valve. just be gentle when pushing it out of the old PT and into the new PT.

[AsHaDoW]

got my cyclone feed 2 day and it looks sweeet, havnt been able to try it out yet tho. got one more Q for u guys tho, do i need to put some selent tape on the banjo(the hose that screws into the pw tube to power the c-feed) fitting or can i just screw it in?:confused:

[Coenen]

A little bit of sealant never hurt anything in a gas operated system. If you're just going to be fiddling I'd try it without, you can always put it on later. If you are going to be using it in a game, def put sealer on there and be done with it.

A bit of teflon tape, or the lightest grade Loctite(blue, I think there's one under blue as well) will do you just fine in that respect.

[SEAL34]

Can you put a Cyclone on an M98?

[AsHaDoW]

...what do you think this thread is about?:dodgy:yes u can by the way,tippmann just came out with the kit for the m98