Little help on upgrade!?

[Daniel]

Ok i've had my shutter a while and i've pimped it out pretty nice.. could use a few things... but i was wondering - what's next? what is some input of some of you for the next upgrade... please give me some ideas so i know what to save up for. Please no cockers... i just... dont like them.. I'd greatly appreciate ur help

[Intruder]

get a reg, or a new barrel, or a drop forward, etc...

[Daniel]

i do - i have a new reg., exp. chamber, barrel. And now all i need is some new grips and bolt. But i just wanna know what kinda gun i should save up for... just suggestions - like should i take the big step and go for something like an intimidator or what... i dont know i plan on getting it next fall so... i am just trying to plan ahead - maybe by then new, better, cheaper guns will come out...

[Daniel]

oh yea - i am probally going to get a new drop forward this weekend

[PBSouLjAh]

intimmys are niiice........u mite wanna go for a bushy or a defiant...they are niiiiiiiice................ mags are also niiiiiiice....man..too many paintball guns are too niiiiiiice.........

[Daniel]

yea the three that have caught my eye so far are the intimidator, bushy, and ematrix(though i don't know much about this one yet) so i dont know... also i would like for kingman to make a second electro gun.. get the kinks outta em1, cause im sure it'll be good

[Hsuve]

In order of position to get:
1. Barrel - CP, Lapco, SP, DYE, all great choices
2. 12 volt Revolution - Feeding/chopping problems? No more!
3. Get a double trigger frame, if you don't have one, make sure it also has both inline and staggard holes.
4. Get a trigger job, I can do one for cheap, Polecat Paintball can also do a REALLY nice one for $20 + shipping. If you want me to do it for cheap, catch me on AIM, my screen name is Hsuve.
3. Remove venturi from the bolt, get an AKALMP Lightning bolt, or get a Shocktech Delrin Quickstrip bolt and drill out the center
4. Drill out the vertical adapter if you use a compact Spyder, or get an AKALMP Compact Mitey-Max
5. Get a turbo valve, any will do, make sure it has an aftermarket valve pin though.
6. Get high flowing hoses, macrolines or steel braided hoses are GREAT
7. Polish your bolt and striker
8. Get a regulator - If you use CO2, get the Palmer Stabilizer, period. If you use N2, choose whichever regulator you want, the Vigilante is a really nice one for cheap but performs excellent.
9. Polecat straightfeed or vertical feed body

You can get practically any barrel at a low cost at http://www.paintballbarrels.com

12 volt Revolutions are sold at http://www.predator-paintball.com for like $47.99 in black

You can get different double trigger frames at http://www.g3pb.com

You can get a nice trigger job from Polecat, or you can have me do one. :) By the way, I do have good feedback from some people that say I won't rip you. I'm an honest person!

To remove the venturi from the bolt, heat up the back of the venturi a bit, then take a nice, good pair of pliers, get a good grip on it, and turn counter-clockwise. The AKALMP Lightning bolt is $52.50 at http://www.g3pb.com
The Shocktech Delrin Quickstrip bolt is $39.99, or something like that at http://www.paintballonline.com (my local store)

Drilling the vertical adapter applies ONLY to the compact Spyders, if you have a standard, skip this part. To drill the vertical adapter remove expansion chambers, regulators, the low pressure chamber, screws of any sort from it. Take the drill, put in the bit that's just slightly larger than the hole that leads into the LPC area. Drill the hole from the opposite side of where the LPC screws in. That way you don't have to mess around with threads and perhaps even mess up the threads of the LPC. After enlargening that hole, take the next larger bit and drill it again. Drill the hole with 3 bits, one just larger than the other. On the bottem where the expansion chamber, gas-through forgrip, or regulator is, don't enlargen that hole. From where the hole is, drill a new hole 90 degrees to the right of where the hole is. After that, drill a hole 90 degrees to the left of where the original hole is. Make sure not to go too far forward, for if you do, you'll mess up the threads to the LPC area.
The AKALMP Compact Mitey-Max can be bought for $52.50 at http://www.g3pb.com

Turbo valves can be bought by your local store, probably. If not, http://www.g3pb.com has some.

I'm sure your local store has different hoses, if not, go scream down their necks telling them to save their money and quit the business. :)

To polish your internals, use 800+ grit sand paper and sand your bolt and striker, DO NOT use coarse sand paper. You want fine grit sand paper so you don't take off too much material. Just sand the two parts until they're shiny, no more, no less.

http://www.predator-paintball.com has a good number of regulators, at GREAT prices. They don't have the Palmer Stabilizer though... The Stabilizer can be bought at http://www.g3pb.com

The Polecat straightfeed is basically a mod that changed your feed tube to that of a 'Cockers. It's vented so it minimizes/eliminated blowback. It's great for left handed people as it moves the hopper to the right side, and with it you can finally look over the top of your gun. It's something like $50 + shipping for installation and the black version of the feed, it's around $55 + shipping for installation and the chrome feed. It's nice and it's worth it, in my opinion. They won't rip you by taking your gun and never sending it back either, though the web site isn't the greatest, the work is EXCELLENT. I believe the company email is ferret@polecatpaintball.com. There are two kinds of vertical feed bodies, one is the AKALMP VLM body. The production on those have ceased, however, if you're lucky, you may find one around. They take 'Cocker barrels and 'Cocker ASAs, they take Spyder internals though (duh! :)). They also use the larger strikers, so if you have a compact body Spyder, you have to go get the older kind of striker. The second vertical feed body is the Bob Long one. I believe that they've stopped making the compact ones, meaning if you get a Bob Long vertical feed body, you'll need a standard Spyder vertical adapter, and the larger version striker. I don't know, but there might still be some compact Bob Long vertical feed bodies out there...

[Hsuve]

Originally posted by Daniel
i do - i have a new reg., exp. chamber, barrel. And now all i need is some new grips and bolt. But i just wanna know what kinda gun i should save up for... just suggestions - like should i take the big step and go for something like an intimidator or what... i dont know i plan on getting it next fall so... i am just trying to plan ahead - maybe by then new, better, cheaper guns will come out...

Get rid of either the regulator of the expansion chamber. Unless of course you have the expansion chamber before the regulator in terms of the set-up of your gun. What regulator is it? Forget the bolt idea, bolts won't help accuracy or range at all. Keep your Spyder if you like it, if not, try a 'Mag. 'Mags shoot damn fast. 'Cockers are good guns as well, but I'd take a 'Mag 'cause they're easier to fix and just as accurate, but shoots faster.

[Daniel]

yea i got a new reg. and x chamber - it's a core one.. it's nice... yes the ex. chamber is before the reg., and i am very pleased with my shutter but i am possibly going to be starting to enter tournaments and am looking for a higher end gun... so far i have just dont rec and big role playing games... no tournaments or anything... so i am just on the lookout - nothing urgent.. just getting other peoples feedback so i can know what i want and save up for..

[blinkpk11]

id save up for a bushy or an impulse. both are very nice and are cheap but good shooting electros. either that or get an intimidator or mag w/ electric grip frmae. both of those would be cool. id love a micro mag RT w/ elcd... muhahaha.

[Hsuve]

Originally posted by Daniel
yea i got a new reg. and x chamber - it's a core one.. it's nice... yes the ex. chamber is before the reg., and i am very pleased with my shutter but i am possibly going to be starting to enter tournaments and am looking for a higher end gun... so far i have just dont rec and big role playing games... no tournaments or anything... so i am just on the lookout - nothing urgent.. just getting other peoples feedback so i can know what i want and save up for..

Oh dear god, not the CORE regulator, did you really buy that one? That's $99.99 for a fugly regulator when you could get a Palmer Stabilizer or AKALMP Sidewinder, and still pay for the shipping costs. Your Shutter will work fine in tournaments, if some dumb **** tournament player goes to you and says: "Oh god, a Shutter? This'll be a piece of cake..." go tell him to shove his gun up his arse. If you have a good paint-to-barrel match, with a quality barrel and quality paint, you'll have no problems when it comes to accuracy. Don't bother getting a new gun, it ain't gonna be any improvement... Unless it's electronic of course, but that's another story...

[Daniel]

ok hey - the core regulator w/ the expansion chamber w/ it is not good? oh well.. im playing this weekend w/ it for the first time... i expect it should do good... newayz i have a custom products barrel... it's pretty good cept i got it a while ago when i used to think "longer was better" so i have it at either 16 or 18 i forgot... newayz ... what i want to do next is get a trigger job for my shutter.. see what that does for it - and so you think it will perform well in tournamentS?

[Hsuve]

Your Shutter's great. Don't take any bull**** from any dumb **** tournament player, you'll do fine if you got the skills. 'Mags, Tribals, Angels, etc. You'd do good with them too, but I recommend sticking with your Spyder and not pay anything extra.

[Daniel]

yea - im pretty good... at least i think so - i usually get out once outta 5 games in pick up games in woods outta bout 30 peeps... i play w/ angels, mags, cockers.. etc. so i do pretty good. But i dont know about speed ball im suppose to go to a field in 3 weeks and possibly enter a tourny in 2 months... is speedball easier or harder than woods?

[Skelo]

I just got a J&J Ceramic 14"

[Daniel]

lol - what does that have to do w/ anything?

[simon woodstock]

get a dye sticky grip. it's my favorite upgrade so far, but i have a few coming tomorrow

[Daniel]

yea i wanna get the sticky grips but i don't feel spending 25 bucks - im low on cash as it is ... AHHH i hate being inbetween jobs ;)

[Hsuve]

Originally posted by Daniel
yea - im pretty good... at least i think so - i usually get out once outta 5 games in pick up games in woods outta bout 30 peeps... i play w/ angels, mags, cockers.. etc. so i do pretty good. But i dont know about speed ball im suppose to go to a field in 3 weeks and possibly enter a tourny in 2 months... is speedball easier or harder than woods?

Speedball can be easier or harder depending on how you play. Generally wood games are larger and longer, they last from 15-20mins (the ones in which I played). Speedball uses a small court and more bunkers near each other. If you like to move around a lot, woods is ideal for you. If you camp a lot, you won't be critisized in Speedball.

[simon woodstock]

stickies are 19 bucks