Upgrade spyder pilot or new a-5w/flatline?

[Wo0dsBaLL]

should i upgrade my pilot or jus get a new a-5 w/flatline???

im planning on playing wilderness more than speedball with the marker but if i get the a-5 ill have to sell my pilot first.

[idono1301]

UPGRADE SPYDER PILOT
u should definately stick with the pilot ... unless u have
money to spend. it would be around say $120 for a new board(with eyes), trigger switch, and a bolt.
And flatlines add range but not exactly accuracy. ;)

[paintballer279]

go upgrade ur spyder pilot...the pilot is a good gun and also has accuracy and range woth a 14"+ barrel

[Wo0dsBaLL]

Originally posted by paintballer279
go upgrade ur spyder pilot...the pilot is a good gun and also has accuracy and range woth a 14"+ barrel

but is it good for woods ball

[idono1301]

yah i use an electra and it rocks (even though i am really junk)

[TheSpy11]

The A-5 w/ Flatline is one great woods gun, but to give you my suggestion, could you tell us what your Pilot has? Any upgrades or is it stock?

[ballisticpball]

No marker is glass. I can't think of any marker that isn't "good" for woodsball. I can only think of markers that would give you an expensive paint bill, if youl ike to play long woodsball games.If anything, you should look for a marker that durable on a Speedball field. I know when I play Speedball, I could care less about my gear. When I play a game of paintball, my gear exceeds $1000 (CDN), but it doesn't matter. Speedball players tend to be more serious about thier game than woodsballers. That being said, Spyder marketed the Pilot to be more for a Speedball crowd, so as far as durability in the woods goes, you wil be fine. The one advantage that an A-5 would have, is quality. Tippmann markers are not susceptable to breaking down on the field. Hence everyone uses them as rentals. A Pilot is reliable enough though. A Flatline will add range, and accuracy if installed correctly. There aren't many people who know how to correectly install a Flatline, to get it to operate correctly. A team mate of mine just so happens to know just about everything about Flatlines. If you guys have any questions you can e-mail him. stan_the_hit_man@hotmail.com . However, I would not reccomend the A-5. Spyderes have a horrible resale value, and you would lose a large amount of money buy selling it. You should just stick with the Pilot, and throw a J&J or cheap SP barrel on it. Then you could buy other upgrades for it as well. Such as a feedneck, trigger and the list goes on. If you want speed, then you had best stick with your Pilot. If you want a rock solid marker that will probably outlast you, then go ahead and buy the A-5.

[Algernon]

tippmann markers are the AK-47s of the paintball world. they are built with looser tolerances between moving parts than just about any other marker, namely between the bolt/body and hammer/body. dirt, debris and chops have
NO affect on these markers. you can literaly slice a ball in half with a m98 bolt and have the marker continue to fire with shell stuck to it's bolt without jamming. my old m98's lube has turned brown from years of dirt and debris entering the marker from the side cocking, i mean this thing has swallowed huge amounts of debris, and it works flawlessly. anything will work if you take care of your gear, but the tippmann markers are very robust and i think one would make a better woodsball marker myself.

flatlines are accurate. i have one, it is intalled properly, and i can one ball a 5 gallon bucket from 130 feet away. flatlines are amazing simply for their ability to shoot over shrubs and other obsticals in the ball's flight path. the flatline itself isn't probably any more accurate than any other decent aftermarket barrel, but the flatened flight path of the ball will make you much more accurate. you will simply be able to hit more targets, with greater ease, because you do not have to counter for the heavy trajectories inherent to a normal barrel.

i say get the A-5 for the flatline and tippmann durability, but try to pick one up used because they are overpriced new.

[Wo0dsBaLL]

Originally posted by TheSpy11
The A-5 w/ Flatline is one great woods gun, but to give you my suggestion, could you tell us what your Pilot has? Any upgrades or is it stock?

i jus have a stock pilot that is standard without the new board

[TheSpy11]

Originally posted by Wo0dsBaLL


i jus have a stock pilot that is standard without the new board

I think you should do this: Save up a little more and buy an ION w/ Apex barrel. The ION is better than the A-5 and Pilot, and the Apex appears to be better than the Flatline. That setup would be great and is something even I am looking at getting even with my A-5/Flatline combo.

[Mentalmonkey10]

up your spyder piolot. Even if you play woodsball, there are some great mods for it. You can either get the carbon fiber stiffie barrel for quietness and accuracy, or you could get the new apex barrel for its "super" flatline qualities. Also, i would sugest that you get a new switch, bolt, and board for it to really max out your paint slinging goodness.:D

[splatmania]

i would go with the a-5 just cuz you can be rougher with it in the woods than u can with a spyder also, ballisticpball i play mostly woods ball and im realy rough on my equipment diving in bushes ect... i think its more of the persons attitude than what type of game there playing :)

[Dunty]

Originally posted by splatmania
i would go with the a-5 just cuz you can be rougher with it in the woods than u can with a spyder also, ballisticpball i play mostly woods ball and im realy rough on my equipment diving in bushes ect... i think its more of the persons attitude than what type of game there playing :)




I bet you've never used a Spyder....


Tippmanns are very rugged, Spyders aren't as rugged, you do have to maintain them, but the Tippmann will not have a performance-advantage over the Spyder in Woodsball, and anything(Almost) that goes wrong with a Spyder can be fixed on the field. No point in giong from Blow-back to blow-back.

[ballisticpball]

^^ True. I have repaired a lot of markers. Mostly Spyders, and I have never run into a problem which required me to order parts. I always had whatever I needed. If something goes wrong with a Tippmann, it almost always requires you to buy a part for it. A Spyder is quite rugged actually. Lts think about it. Drop a mech Spyder onto some rocks. May scratch the anno. but that's it. Drop a Tippmann onto some rocks. Scratch up the Powder Coating. Do the same thing with both markers running on electronics. I can guarantee you, the damage will be no different.

[splatmania]

i do own a spyder and its a back up but the a-5 will break less often than a spyder but what u say about getting parts is true its easy to get ahold of spyder parts compared to tippmann parts;)

[TheSpy11]

Originally posted by splatmania
i do own a spyder and its a back up but the a-5 will break less often than a spyder but what u say about getting parts is true its easy to get ahold of spyder parts compared to tippmann parts;)

^^Even though it's a bit hard to comprehend, it is a true statement in my and others' experience (not about the parts availability thing though).

[slaminator3323]

TI think the reason they don't have as many tippmann parts is you usually won't need tham. BTW its pilot not piolot mental.

[ballisticpball]

I know of tons of people who have lost Tippmann parts, if not broke them, but then they can never find a new part for them. Unlike a Spyder. I'm all for the reliability of Tippmann's. the feikld my brother and I operate primarily uses Tippmann's for rentals becasue of that fact, but performance wise, Tippmanns are just not up to par. Also, no one had better bring Tippmann Effect into this, because if you, I'll hunt you down and murder you with a small, furry woodland animal. Tippmann Effect markers are lions in sheep's clothing.

[usapatriot]

keep the pilot, that way u can use it in woodsball and speedball, lol last weekend some guy tried to play SP with an A5. Guess what happened? He got lit up off the break.:eyes:

[John Sullivan]

Sell the pilot and buy a promaster, ion, or wrath.;)

[ballisticpball]

Or, since he doesn't seem to want to buy an Ion, upgrade the Pilot. Sometimes, all people really ever need is a simple blow back.

[Dunty]

Yeah, guys, Ballistic is right, he takes the cake...Or in his case, a case of Red Rave.