why so bad?

[drumjester]

Hey everyone. I was browsing my local proshop today and saw a nerve. Now ive never played with one or really seen anyone with them. But after pciking it up i was completely in love. I would have bought it right there if i had the cash. So this got me thinking, why does no one have them? They are small, light, has a max flow, and the triger rocks. Is it the price? Or is something just really bad about them?

[greg1113]

nothing is wrong with them but ur right i dont see them that often

[drumjester]

I will admit that the price apears to limit the gun to players. Most people who want to spend $1300 CDN would just buy a timmy or a save a little for like an ego. But if SP dropped the price do you think we would see more?

[the Ydna]

ahhh they just did drop the price! $800 USD

[drumjester]

Really? All the canadian websites still read up near $1300 which is about $1000 USD. Well maybe i will look at them. Yet how do they actualy stack up to timmys, shockers, NME's, and trix's?

[the Ydna]

Very well. But in terms of popularity, people seem to be heading towards the spoolers more than the hammer-based open bolt guns.

The canadian sites must have not updated yet. I know the new MSRP was sent out late last week (thursday I think). But if all else fails you can just buy it from SP or punisherspb.com and have it shipped across the border.

[drumjester]

Is it true that all it is is basicaly a shocker but costs more? Thats what some dude told me and i didnt belive him.

[the Ydna]

no, they're very different. Nerve is more close to an Impulse than a Shocker. http://www.zdspb.com/tech/nrv/intro.html

[304[live]PB]

I've been interested in a Nerve for quite some time now. I know they rip and such, but how is their efficiency?

[the Ydna]

Generally 1200-1400 shots depending on the settings and parts.

[drumjester]

Does anyone think that one day the nerve will get very popular? And it will become the new "thing"? I admit it would be cool to see more of them out there. But since few poeple have them, fewer people actualy get to try them and thus less buy them. Its a giant cycle.

[Tabris17]

Unfortunately I think the Nerve will be one of those markers that very few people will remember. I've never seen one in person but I have a friend that is interested in one.
In my personal opinion I don't like them all that much, I'm not a fan of the closed bolt design and I recently bought a Dragon Timmy. Not saying the Nerve is a bad gun just an overlooked one especially with the new Angels and Karnivor out. Not to mention the Infamous Timmy that is coming out.
Maybe more people will be using them when the price drops, though they did drop to $800 and you can get an ultimate package for $1000 with the maxflo and tank. It's getting there though. Maybe just needs time.

[drumjester]

Even though they are inferior, when buying a marker it really comes down to feel. If i were to pick one up I would mostlikely not and instead buy say an NME or A-Bomb. I just really likes they way it felt when i was pissing around with it in the store. I still think its cool, but there are so many better options eh?

[Jonny Bravo]

Originally posted by Tabris17
Unfortunately I think the Nerve will be one of those markers that very few people will remember. I've never seen one in person but I have a friend that is interested in one.
In my personal opinion I don't like them all that much, I'm not a fan of the closed bolt design and I recently bought a Dragon Timmy. Not saying the Nerve is a bad gun just an overlooked one especially with the new Angels and Karnivor out. Not to mention the Infamous Timmy that is coming out.
Maybe more people will be using them when the price drops, though they did drop to $800 and you can get an ultimate package for $1000 with the maxflo and tank. It's getting there though. Maybe just needs time.

Nerve is open bolt, not closed.

[Tabris17]

If I can't see it, it's not very open to me. :P

[the Ydna]

Perhaps, but all the guns you mentioned share the same design as the Nerve. And the Nerve is the cheapest of them all at the same time, with the same performance? That leaves a lot to be said about "feel"

[Tabris17]

Alot of markers seem to be sharing designs lately. Like you can argue that the Defiant 2 has a DM series look to it. Same with the Nerve, kind of looks like DM in a way.
But as far as performance I'm sure it's not a bad gun but now that the Ion is out well, going to sell more $300 markers that shoot like a $1000 over an $800 one that shoots nearly the same.
And I know they don't operate the same way and use different designs but I'm just comparing general performance so no need to get upset.

[the Ydna]

Are you talking about looks or design? I mean to say the design between the Angel, Intimidator, Nerve, and others is the same concept with a few minor differences between platforms. The bodies can be milled any which way though, and is far more subjective....people should be buying guns on performance and not the paintjob.

My point was the people that want an Ion will get an Ion, and the people that want a Nerve couldn't care less about what new $300 marker is available. It's a completely different demographic.

[drumjester]

Well i do dissagree that when your going to throw $1000 down on a marker looks should matter a alot. If you dont like the looks of it why buy it? Also feel is a very important aspect of paintball. Every marker has its own feel. If you dont like the way a marker sits it your hands, why buy it? It may make it difficult to walk or to snap with. I personaly dont much care for 90's and even on a 45 i like to have a drop. Its all feel. Yet you are right that if some one is looking for say a timmy price marker. They aint gona buy an ION. Even though ION's can compare and they are changing paintball, high end people know that with a high end marker they wont stand a chance. I mean i took out a guy with an ION a bunch the other day with my Spyder. The marker dosnt make the player.

[the Ydna]

I'm trying to say that looks are completely subjective. It's not like the way the Nerve looks (good or bad) is one of its characteristics. It's all uyp to you.
Personally I couldn't care less what my gun looks like. But then again half of mine are made by hand so making something that looks cool to the Intimidator owners 9or whomever) wasn't the goal...

[Tabris17]

I meant in design that some markers look alike in a cosmetic way. Like they have a similiar shape or style to them. But looks are only a minor part of it for me.
Like I really thought the Karnivor was nice until I held one and I was like it's clunky and the stock trigger is HORRIBLE. But markers like the Shocker and Ion had a similiar feel as they were light, tight, and you weren't holding onto the macroline on them which is nice.
Which now leads me to believe that the Nerve would have a similiar feel to a Shocker, though they obviously aren't the same marker I like where the elbow and macro are on it. I think I'll have to set all my markers up in the future like that.

[drumjester]

I feel the nerve is similiar to the shocker yet better. Now that the price has droped i think that more people will jump on it. Since it is better then a shocker and the same price (just about) i see no reason to buy a shocker unless you are a dynasty whore. But since the ION came out we will see ALOT less high end markers all together. More people will just buy the ION rather then wait and pick up say a timmy. And soon high end markers may become obsolete. Who would buy a $1300 timmy if you could get say a $400 ION and drop a board in it to make it shoot 20-30 bps? Personaly i would still go for the timmy. But the majority of the population would get ION's. Even though the ION has filled the $400-$700 electro range with a good marker its just taking too much away from the sport.

Also I would just like to throw out that if you had a marker that looked like it was broken, scratched up, rusted, and had the worst paint ever on top of a horrid physical look would you buy it? Say it shot 2 more bps then a timmy and was slightly more efficient and the same price. Would you buy it? Wether you all wish to acknowledge it or not if the marker isnt pleasing to the eye (even slightly) you would mostlikely not consider it as an alternative to whatever you bought.

[the Ydna]

I see what you mean Tebris.
I would say you'll find the gun to feel a lot like the Shocker...except with a very different trigger (doesn't taper down like the Shocker one). The main difference that I feel is the Nerve doesn't have any wrist support becuase the frame ends right at the back of the body...whereas the Shocker's body extends about an inch and a half behind the frame. Weird differences like that are the only ones there are since the frames are virtually (functionally) identical.

[peterneto]

Originally posted by drumjester
I will admit that the price apears to limit the gun to players. Most people who want to spend $1300 CDN would just buy a timmy or a save a little for like an ego. But if SP dropped the price do you think we would see more? 1300 cnd here its 950 candian

[drumjester]

Yeah man i know. My post was beffore the price drop. Well i think in a few months im going to pick one up. The store i go to is going to give me a deal so im very excited. Many people i know still dislike it though.

[impyboi2123]

i am debating between a nerve and vision shocker lmk wat u think

[G 2]

Its the price. And its not really as good as a shocker and timmy's and stuff. Its just an over-priced gun really.

[drumjester]

Not really man. Think about it.... You have a great gun, at a good price, with just about every upgrade you would put on your marker. Everything from a clamp neck to a freak barrel. If you buy one there is really no need for upgrading.

[PaintballPimp90]

id otn liek the look or feel of a nevre i love hte feel of shocker they j feel good in my hands but i didntg et either and im happy i got my proto id take it ne day

nerve = pointless
shockers are j as good but cheaper i think u pay for cosmetics..... bc a shocker comes wif a never board and i think there about the same weight soo ur j paying for a goofy looking marker imo

[Team Chokepoint]

Holy crap, sorry for trolling, but that was one of the least intelligible thing's I've ever read on pbr.

[drumjester]

Originally posted by PaintballPimp90
id otn liek the look or feel of a nevre i love hte feel of shocker they j feel good in my hands but i didntg et either and im happy i got my proto id take it ne day

nerve = pointless
shockers are j as good but cheaper i think u pay for cosmetics..... bc a shocker comes wif a never board and i think there about the same weight soo ur j paying for a goofy looking marker imo

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