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How do you know which is right for you?
thanks
UTLadiesMan
01-23-2002, 09:42 PM
If you have a blow back or blow forward, the power feed is probably going to be a little better for you. If you have a closed bolt gun, the vertical feed should be better.
Then again, it's all just personal prefrence.
j7million
01-24-2002, 04:54 AM
Why does blowback and closed bolt matter? I could never figure why pf is better than classic feed (on a mag) all you have to do is cut down the feed and its the same right?
elTwitcho
01-24-2002, 07:51 AM
No, it isn't the same. With a powerfeed gun, when you have blowback up the feed tube, the ball is stopped against the corner, and doesn't go flying up the feed tube. There is also a large hole cut in the corner to vent the gasses flying up. With a right feed gun, there is no corner that stops a ball that is blown up the feed tube, so you start to have feeding issues. The length of the feed really doesn't matter, it's the fact that there is an elbow to stop balls from flying up the tube. As for open bolt and closed bolt, that's pretty... well, wrong. There are a number of open bolt markers that make maximum use of a vertical feed, such as the defiant, impulse, intimidator, angel, tribal, rainmaker (quasi closed bolt though) the matrix etc etc. Open or closed bolt isn't what's important, what is important, is wether blowback goes up the feed tube or not
UTLadiesMan
01-24-2002, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by elTwitcho
There are a number of open bolt markers that make maximum use of a vertical feed, such as the defiant, impulse, intimidator, angel, tribal, rainmaker (quasi closed bolt though) the matrix etc etc.
Well, those are all electros... Notice I said "blow back or blow forward". I never mentioned anything about electronic markers, which are not recocked in the same fashion.
elTwitcho
01-24-2002, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by UTLadiesMan
Well, those are all electros... Notice I said "blow back or blow forward". I never mentioned anything about electronic markers, which are not recocked in the same fashion.
Yes but you said vert feed would be better if you have a closed bolt marker, thus implying that open bolt should have powerfeed and closed bolt should use vert feed
UTLadiesMan
01-24-2002, 01:09 PM
Ok, I'm a CS major. I have taken several logic classes, and know more programming languages than I care to count. I shall now use my skill to demonstrate my above statement. (in C++)
string shouldIGetAPowerFeed(marker MyGun)
{
if((MyGun.type() == blow_back) || (MyGun.type() == blow_forward)
return "power feed";
else if(MyGun.type() == closed_bolt)
return "vertical feed";
else
return "unknown";
}
Any time you submit an electric, you will get unknown. Nowhere in any of my logic devices have I declared a value for electrics.
Oh, and we are assuming in the above code that MyGun has been declared as a class with a member function type() which returns the type of gun. electro, blow_back, and blow_forward have all been declared and assigned arbitrary values that correspond with the values in type() unless type also uses those declarations. string has also been defined as a normal char[] type.
Edit: sorry for the spacing, it looked better when I typed it.
elTwitcho
01-24-2002, 02:02 PM
Yes, but... what was the point of putting it into C++? 'round these parts, we speak english. In english, you implied that open bolt guns should use powerfeed, as I already mentioned. Perhaps a better way of putting it (this is Java)
.......
elseif (thisargument == stupid) then
thisthread.exit ()
.......
Now that assumes I had previous "if statements" and I have created an instance of a thread (messageboard thread, not programming thread) object named "thisthread" which contains an "exit" function, to which no variables need to be passed. Also, it would be difficult to compare a variable type of "thisargument" to another variable of "stupid". Perhaps if you assigned boolean values to them, and at one point, this argument was set to be a value the same as the value for "stupid". Perhaps a better way of doing it, would be to have a boolean variable named "thisArgumentIsStupid" and set it to false, so that when the argument did indeed become stupid, you would set it to true. At which point, you would have an if statement along the lines of
......
elseif (thisArgumentIsStupid == true) then
thisthread.exit()
......
Indeed, now this argument truly is stupid :)
UTLadiesMan
01-24-2002, 02:10 PM
All I'm saying is that I never said anything about electros, so I shouldn't be reamed about being wrong about electros.
You haven't said anything about multi-dimensional calculus yet, but I'm not assuming everything you know about it is wrong.
And sorry for the code, I was helping someone on the phone, and just kinda started typing... :P
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