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Pig-Demon
01-24-2002, 07:34 PM
i think that the mods here are hypocritical. if i do ANYTHING bad a mod gets on my tail.

for example: under my avatar, under location i had utah (godamn it sucks here) the "goddamn it sucks here"ended up on a different line than the utah. a mod pm'ed me and told me that that made it look like pbreview had no class.

that is not the only time a mod has pm'ed me for me doing something wrong. just the lattest one and the only one that i could remember why.

but i look around and see that even moderators have slutty pics of girls in their avatars. i don't mind the girls.... i mind the contradictions. :pissed:

Magnus55
01-24-2002, 08:03 PM
That's a valid concern. I've pm'ed you.

elTwitcho
01-24-2002, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Pig-Demon
but i look around and see that even moderators have slutty pics of girls in their avatars. i don't mind the girls.... i mind the contradictions. :pissed:

There are alot of users here who have pictures of girls in their avatars as well. That isn't a privilege reserved only for the moderators, it is one that can be used by anyone. If you're interested, I can even make you an avatar for you to use, free of charge no less. However, you won't see any moderators with a line in their sig or under their avatar that makes it appear that we are saying it sucks on these forums. That is something neither the users nor the moderators are permitted to do. In fact, the way I see it, there is no contradictions as far as this issue is concerned, and if you're going to call us hipocrites, I'm going to call you a big baby who's just throwing a fit because he didn't get his way. PM me if you're still interested in that avatar...

MINDofSIN
01-24-2002, 09:44 PM
I can see Pig's point. Considering this is a G rated site I don't see how "it sucks" differs too much from the girl avatars.

Also, I think(not sure) Pig was saying the area where he lived sucks...not the website.

elTwitcho
01-24-2002, 09:49 PM
Yes but "it sucks here" appeared to be directed at the site. And that is where the problem arose. And no matter what the rating of this site, I think it's downright retarded to complain when you see a picture of a girl. If you look out your window at any given moment you could see a girl. God forbid that should happen. I might add that you "seeing his point" is an interesting position as no doubt he would be offended by your avatar. Not only is it mildy sexualy suggestive, but there is not one, but TWO girls in it. Save me now before I see anymore profanity...

Magnus55
01-24-2002, 10:51 PM
To clear things up, I wasn't talking about people having girlies for their avatars. I have no problem with that what so ever. Having to change your sig for saying Utah sucks is a slightly different matter.

Killer Kat
01-25-2002, 02:46 AM
Pig! What's this all about? Let's set the record straight ok!
I'm the one who asked you to kindly change the "swearing" out of your title, it's against the rules! Correct?
So I'm the one who asked you nicely to change not only the swearing, but to change it because it said it sucks "here" and that's not the sort of verbage nor image I want spread thru the threads. I also said that if it really sucks here so bad, you don't have to say! Correct?
You are the one that sent me this reply to that pm, (again please notice that I continued to show my graditude for your cooperation) explaining to me that it wasn't this site that sucked, it was your own state. It just looked like you had said "here" because the Utah and the comment were on two different lines.
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Pig-Demon wrote on 01-21-2002 03:57 PM:
it accually says: location: utah (godamn it sucks here) 'cause i hate utah. it just separated on the lines weird. i love pbreview. but i'll do it anyways. it was getting old.
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Thanks Bro! I mean it, I do appreciate that!
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Morde Sordom

So Pig, What and why do bring this back up, who has profanity, cursing, or swearing in their titles? I'll be glad to address it, Just tell me who?

Or, are you just feeling a little Porky! Pig?

Pig-Demon
01-25-2002, 02:10 PM
i am glad to change the swearing to keep pbreview "classy". but it seems that many others, including mods, are contradicting you (Killer Kat). they are making this site trashy, which i don't mind. i just mind figures of authority contradicing each other. i don't see how swearing is less moral than sexuality.

and Killer, you were to me the most respectable mod on this site. you are one of the most moral people i have seen here. but now you are being a smart......bum (gotta keep it moral) at me for just pointing out that other people are sorta contradicing you.

i think that magnus may be the only non-contradicting person here. maybe i'll just go to pbnation.

Thor the Mighty
01-25-2002, 02:42 PM
i dont see how this is a g rated site. do you see pictures of hot modles in kindergardener's magazines?

why does it have to be a g site?

MINDofSIN
01-25-2002, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Pig-Demon
i am glad to change the swearing to keep pbreview "classy". but it seems that many others, including mods, are contradicting you (Killer Kat). they are making this site trashy, which i don't mind. i just mind figures of authority contradicing each other. i don't see how swearing is worse than sexuality.

and Killer, you were to me the most respectable mod on this site. you are one of the most moral people i have seen here. but now you are being a smart......bum (gotta keep it moral) at me for just pointing out that other people are sorta contradicing you.

i think that magnus may be the only non-contradicting person here. maybe i'll just go to pbnation.

Saying Utah sucks isn't much more offensive than my avatar(if any). If we are allowed to have these types of avatars why aren't we allowed to have some swearing? I don't really see the diffrence. If some people are offended by that though then it's your call to make.

Moderators-----> :finger: No profanity!

Pig-Demon
01-25-2002, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Thor the Mighty
i dont see how this is a g rated site. do you see pictures of hot modles in kindergardener's magazines?

why does it have to be a g site?

mods are always telling us to keep it that way.

Killer Kat
01-25-2002, 04:25 PM
My job here is to enforce the rules, not make them. I try to mix humor in with sarcasm and truth. I have to admit when I saw this post it made me feel bad that you said the things you had. I see now that you've edited the original. If I hurt your feelings then I here state my apology to you. However I still will stand by every word I printed because they are all true. I would have thought that if someone was giving you a hard time (another mod) you would have come to me, in the way of a pm as I did for you. But instead you publicly criticize "the mods" Well Pig I am a MOD what did you expect me to do? You got porky, I just threw it back at ya! If ya wanna run with the big doggies your gonna get bit!
I will continue to play nice, fair giving people the benefit of doubt, guiding and counsoling (as I did with you from the start Pig, until you tested me) Again my job is to enforce rules, keep the site a happy safe place for all members and their families to enjoy and benefit from what I found to be the most informative site available. I don't have a problem with the state of Utah never did my problem was with the profanity. Pig and I worked that problem out. If Pig has a problem with me, that's Pigs problem, I still stand by what I've said . The truth!

Pig-Demon
01-25-2002, 05:46 PM
I never attacked you Killer. If it seemed like that in the first place then i am sorry. I am just trying to say that all mods should follow the same principles. Instead of contradicing each other.

Magnus55
01-25-2002, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Pig-Demon
...i think that magnus may be the only non-contradicting person here. .

Thanks for the compliment Pig-Demon. That really means a lot to me. But I take it this thread really isn't about being asked to change the location under your avatar? There are other issues here you're talking about, and I'd rather discuss this one on one with you rather than open to public scrutiny here in this thread. I'll pm you again, ok?

Paint Bulley
01-25-2002, 07:49 PM
??????

you ever find another instince of them being hypocritical?

and be truthful and try to name me all the mods without looking somewhere. If you can name them all and still say Magnus is the only one, something is wrong with you (no offense ment). But there are a whole lot if not all the mods are not hypocritical.

And everyone is a little hypocritical about some thing.

2 cents in the piggy jar

Magnus55
01-26-2002, 12:35 AM
Paint Bulley, thats why I'm handling this through PM. I don't want any names or accusations out here in the public forums. This will only cause conflict and argument, and that's not really going to resolve anything, it'll just make it worse.

And by thanking Pig-Demon, I didn't mean to imply that I thought I was the only non-hypocritical mod, but nor am I saying that we, as mods don't contradict ourselves from time to time. I'm surprised he even considers me non-hypocritical. It's nice to get compliments though. :)

elTwitcho
01-26-2002, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Pig-Demon
I never attacked you Killer. If it seemed like that in the first place then i am sorry. I am just trying to say that all mods should follow the same principles. Instead of contradicing each other.

I still see this as I originally did, you didn't get your way, and now you're acting like a baby over it. You're the only person here who's voiced such complaints, and from my point of view, you're being petty and childish. If you've got such a big huge problem with the moderators and how they are running things, pack up your stuff and go elsewhere. We've got a couple thousand other happy members who'll ensure your absence isn't noticed much.

Tony G
01-26-2002, 02:59 PM
i look around and see that even moderators have slutty pics of girls in their avatars. i don't mind the girls.... i mind the contradictions.

i dont know what your problem is with girls, but everywhere people (including little kids) look there is pictures like that. Its not like they are porn, they have nothing expolsed so there is no problem, but if there was something expolsed then i could see people have a problem with it. the only thing i can think of you having a problem with pics of girls is that you are ***. (no offensive):rolleyes:

Sid
01-26-2002, 10:58 PM
Listen up. Bad Mods? How nice of you to post such a thread. Maybe we should reciprocate and post a thread called "Bad Users". Sounds obsurd right?

If you have a problem, use Private Messaging. That's of course unless you're trying to offend someone or cause trouble.

ziggo_777
02-02-2002, 09:35 AM
good point sid

jomama22
02-15-2002, 04:04 PM
i, myself wouldnmt mid if there was a whole new foumnabout bad mods and why they are bad, and one about bad users and why they are bad.......

DasBaldDog
02-15-2002, 06:14 PM
How about a Jomama is bad forum?

Paint Bulley
02-15-2002, 06:19 PM
ahh nobody likes nobody...

we dont need to show our hate...

oh and das, i no mad at C4 anymore, you can take that out :)

DasBaldDog
02-15-2002, 06:21 PM
Nah, methinks it stays. C4 is a true *** so I appreciate cheap little shots like that.

jomama22
02-16-2002, 07:08 AM
well if we made a jomama is bad fourm it wouldnt bother me, if peeps feel that way about me then they can post there

Pr0digy
02-16-2002, 08:17 AM
This is a problem with mods and the rules:
1st- Having sexualy segestive avators is not acceptable in a public forum.
2nd- "It s---s here" is not inapropreate but does imply that explatives will be accepted here, which is diffendly not.

Solution: Get ride of these pictures of half naked people off the site and if you must, at least get someone that is dressed and not being sexually segestive. Thanks

Pr0digy
02-16-2002, 08:22 AM
This is a problem with mods and the rules:
1st- Having sexualy segestive avators is not acceptable in a public forum.
2nd- "It s---s here" is not inapropreate but does imply that explatives will be accepted here, which is diffendly not.

Solution: Get ride of these pictures of half naked people off the site and if you must, at least get someone that is dressed and not being sexually segestive. Then for the posting anyword that could be interpruted as an explitive, don't do it. It promotes an envirerment that will allow much harsher word to be used in the post at PBreview.com, which of all the major paintball forums, has the most respected one out there for launguage, pictures, and overall attitude. Most of you need to grow up and deal with your problems with the moderators, who many also sometimes do things that abuse their power.

Mcot
02-16-2002, 09:49 AM
Ah but just because your mod doesn't mean you know more about paintball than other folks who are on this forum. It just mean you have more time to sit in front of your omputer and answer peoples questions. So I don't relly care for moderators because they act like they know all. I am not talking about this site in particular but it happens in all the forums i am in.

Mcot
02-16-2002, 09:50 AM
and i don't care what you say you are being hypocritical

Good day sirs

DasBaldDog
02-16-2002, 10:26 AM
Well it seems here that we have discovered the perfect human being.


Mcot, it is VERY easy to point out problems with others, even if your own enlarged ego gets in your way.


And for the record, I've been playing paintball for 11+ years, since Splatmasters and Nelspot were about the ONLY guns to use. I've worked on just about every gun on the market (with exception to those customs like Adrenalin Angels, but they're basically the same as normal Angels).

If you can come up with ONE question in regards to my areas of speciality, then I will admit you have a point but until then, I think you're just a jealous hater.

Pr0digy
02-16-2002, 10:37 AM
Mods usally are very educated about paintball, for example I bet a mod can answer this question: What part on the Tribal guns, do people have the most trouble with? If they can answer that, there probibly able to answer most any other technicul prob. Give these guys a break, they spend all this time to help you.

Mcot
02-16-2002, 11:04 AM
I accually like the mods on this forum. But on others yes mods can be annoying. I have been playing three years. I know i don't know evrything there is to know about paintball. I am just saying that mods tend to think they know everything and they try to bash the newbies.

For example in the electro guns forum there is a sticky saying no blowbacks with electro frames.

On several occactions i have seen some newbie post something about the spyder flash or black dragun and get flamed. they didn't know what a blowback is. This irritates me because you should try to help the newbies and not flame them. And also I wrote something about theEM1 in the electro forum and some mod. Didn't want to flame the marker so he put lines like this _____ where his flames would be. Why don't people and mods alike just state what they didlike nd like about the gun and move on. A post like this

i -------- the EM1 it is a -------- ------ ------- i want to ------- it is the river.

is not helpful at all.

Mcot
02-16-2002, 11:07 AM
Here is the post. And t was by you dasbadog or whatever your name is.

Hmmmmm.......no gun bashing......... so I'mma MAJORLY have to censor myself on this post.



Kingman Em1's _____ so much they make me want to ______ and _____ that _______ in the ________ river.


You can try and make the above in a Madlib if you want.

This sort of stuf i have seen to much of.

Pr0digy
02-16-2002, 11:15 AM
I think he was trying to be funny, I just posted at the thread and it wasn't bashing anything, the mod was just puting his two cents in. And about moving post and stuff, they usaully explain why they do it, if not you can ask them.

DasBaldDog
02-16-2002, 11:58 AM
In this case, I can just tell you why I did it.


The Em1 was a mistake of superfluous technology. Kingman realized that the entire design was flawed and that's why they stopped production of it and changed to a more proven technology (electro frames on a standard blow back.....aka AMG and Flash)


Most of us mods, spend COUNTLESS hours on here moderating all the crap that gets dished out. Maybe before you point the finger, you should give us PROPS for all the good that we do. All you people want to do is blame us, but I don't see you doing ONE SINGLE THING to help besides try to deride others? How many times have I seen a thread report with your name on it? NONE, how many times have I seen a review report with your name on it..... NONE. Don't even start blaming people who ALOT of positive features that YOU don't and have VERY few of the negative aspects.


In other words, GO TO NATION IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT HERE! I GUAR-AND DAMN-TEE YOU THAT YOU WILL BE BACK WITH ARMS OUT STRETCHED!

Mcot
02-16-2002, 01:00 PM
If you mean PBnation then i am already there. I have been there longer than here.

As for the EM1, why would kingman produce another elctro if the EM1 was such a fluk. The EM1 modify is even better than the EM1 which is awsome.

I say that you are full of yourself and think you are the greatest.

ThaFiend
02-16-2002, 01:13 PM
yeah dude I posted in a thread about date rape and I said somehting along the lines of "anyone who does it should have the d!cK$ cut off" and I was PMed by two mods concerning it..... and I've been PMed about saying words like the one that = female dog.... but it's not all the mods... only a few.

Mcot
02-16-2002, 01:59 PM
Ok thats just wrong. There is no need for that at all. He should be banned now.

Mcot
02-16-2002, 01:59 PM
What mods are you talking about.

Pr0digy
02-16-2002, 03:52 PM
Guys, give it a break! If you don't like how the mods overlook post move to a different forum. These guys aren't bad at what they do. If you have a problem with a mod, email or message a super mod or admin. Come on, this is getting out of hand, there is no need to bash each other.

PooGas
02-23-2002, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Pig-Demon
that is not the only time a mod has pm'ed me for me doing something wrong. just the lattest one and the only one that i could remember why.


Killer kat, sense he started this thread saying that, after the story about him being pm'ed i serious don't think it was any personal attack towards you. And besides I kinda like "Conquer And Devour".

Originally posted by elTwitcho
Yes but "it sucks here" appeared to be directed at the site. And that is where the problem arose.

If this way the problem could it be averted by saying "It sucks here In utah"??? sure it might have lost some of humor cause its longer, but it still gets the point across.

Originally posted by Paint Bulley
??????

you ever find another instince of them being hypocritical?

and be truthful and try to name me all the mods without looking somewhere. If you can name them all and still say Magnus is the only one, something is wrong with you (no offense ment). But there are a whole lot if not all the mods are not hypocritical.


I think you kinda like this spamming, mod arguing chaos, if you want to bring more into it.

Over all, i'm sorry if i brought up a dead subject, i just now saw it and i wanted to add what i thought of it in. I have alot of respect for every mod, Super mod, and Admin in here, and i think they are doing a good job if you consider that they have to determin whats right and whats wrong with so many people looking over their shoulder.

Poogas

BTW ElTwicho I pm'ed ya

unreal7
02-23-2002, 04:16 PM
leave the mods alone their doing their job!

Incube
02-23-2002, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by MINDofSIN
I can see Pig's point. Considering this is a G rated site I don't see how "it sucks" differs too much from the girl avatars.

Also, I think(not sure) Pig was saying the area where he lived sucks...not the website.
Agreed