Evil Omhen V.S. ICD Promaster?

[pr0xy_dA3m0n 1]

which is better...and for what reasons?

my friend is getting the omhen..and says its better...and he put his thread like this on the evil boards..and everyone voted for the omhen..so im putting this here...what do you think?

[Sir Stunna Lot]

just remember this:

the omen works like a spyder

the promaster works like an intimidator



***edit***

also, the omen doesnt have any eyes, "field stripping" the omen is virtually impossible, omen's stock software has no option... i can go on for days...

hey, post the link to your friend's thread.. i wanna read what the omen owners have to say

[fatmatt1990]

hahaha the omen vs the promaster.... do we really have to type all the reasons why the promaster is better? honistly come on

[pr0xy_dA3m0n 1]

so he can see al of them lol...not that i dont know

friends thread (http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1187469)

[(Sum41)]

The PM is better but that thread was posted in an evil owners forum no? All the responses were geared towards the omen which only has a better stock barrel and a detanator on it.

[cutomcocker1]

Originally posted by Sir Stunna Lot

the promaster works like an intimidator



no, it works like a bushy, impy, pimp, etc...

on a side note: omens suck.
-the cam feed sucks
-no eyes
-blowback action (sucks)
-evil's legendary quality control (sucks)

then end, get a promaster

[fatmatt1990]

haha some1 said the omens accuritsy is =to the PM well i herd the accurisy on the omen BLOWS,also doesnt the omen brake in a day?

[Sir Stunna Lot]

Originally posted by cutomcocker1


no, it works like a bushy, impy, pimp, etc...



wtf are you talking about

those markers ALL work like the timmy's also

they are all stacked tube, solenoid activated hammer/ram

[(Sum41)]

I think he meant it doesnt work as well as the timmys its not of as high quality and has some minor differences.

[cutomcocker1]

in principle, all high end guns are the same: a control circuit operates a solenoid. it is what that solenoid drives that differentiates one gun from another. on timmys, the noid drives a sled style ram which is far different from a bushy, impy, pimp, angel style of ram.

EDIT: i don't really want to get into a gun v. gun argument here...

[Sir Stunna Lot]

Originally posted by cutomcocker1
in principle, all high end guns are the same: a control circuit operates a solenoid. it is what that solenoid drives that differentiates one gun from another. on timmys, the noid drives a sled style ram which is far different from a bushy, impy, pimp, angel style of ram.

EDIT: i don't really want to get into a gun v. gun argument here...

timmy, bushies, impies, pimps, angels, egos... "the noids drives the sledge style ram"

those markers are all similar... they only differ from the freestyle, shocker, trix and such

[cutomcocker1]

Originally posted by Sir Stunna Lot


timmy, bushies, impies, pimps, angels, egos... "the noids drives the sledge style ram"

those markers are all similar... they only differ from the freestyle, shocker, trix and such

you're ignoring finer levels of detail, thats fine, w/e. the point is that promaster>omen. the end.

[pr0xy_dA3m0n 1]

and there you have it...

[lotus_esprit5]

dont worry, you're getting the better gun without a doubt. An Omen is a closed-bolt spyder. It has a wider profile than the promaster thanks to the offset feed so he'll get more hopper hits and a less balanced gun. The heights of the guns are similar but the Promaster is much lighter, the omen is deceptively heavy. The Promaster board ramps and adjusts, Omen board is non-adjustable semi. The Omen kicks like hell, it really is about as smooth as a spyder in terms of recoil. And as for the detonator, it does have good recharge, but it is not the second best reg on the market, the consistency wouldn't be any better than the stock ICD inline. The Omen is a step-up gun IMO between the lower priced guns and the high end ones, and not a very good one since you could put a new reg and frame on a spyder and it'd perform about the same. I wouldnt play a tourny with it. The Promaster, on the other hand, is a great tourny gun. just needs a bottomline and preferably a new barrel and it'll run against any other gun.

BTW, any1 notice anything different in my sig?

[supernothing76]

you got a fsp and i have a sonic borg :D

JP grats on that.... i hope your happy with it i would be FSP are nice!:party:

[ShorTi]

Ya, well I have a focker! And about to get something new.

[supernothing76]

LIKE A FORG!!!:D

[ShorTi]

OMG A FORG?!?! WHERE!!

[lotus_esprit5]

haha thanks supernothing. yeah i played a tourny with my coaches FSP with Predator and fell in love with it, so I bought it off him when he decided to sell it cause his new team is using shockers. I still love borgs but the FSP is soooo tight as well and a bit more feasible for me, plus the ramping board is a huge must. anyway sry to hijack the thread. back to the topic at hand-the Omen is crap.

[pr0xy_dA3m0n 1]

lol! nice pic...

[R-one]

the omen is not a bad gun , gets a bad rap , but its not that bad a gun . i own one and i own a b2k4 . the omen is dead balls accurate , no matter what they tell ya . it is loud and has some kick though . very efficient out of the box . i'm not sure about the promasters efficiency . the promaster is gonna be faster , even though the new boards on the omen are supposed to be nice . omens do not break in a day . mine hasnt broken yet , of course i read the instructions on how the gun operates , i tell people that the best upgrade for the omen is to read the manual . the recock pressure really throws 'em off . the cam system , though wierd , works really well . its just that the omen pretty much stays the way you buy it .......... the promaster is gonna be more upgradeable , which will get ya closer to the big boys .

[pr0xy_dA3m0n 1]

good to see a person that is more neutral, to have both, thanks you guys.

[FLGatorPB]

I think you would be happier with the Promaster. Omen isent a bad gun but Its based on the cocker design. Not saying its gonna be slower. But I think that the promaster would be alot faster and alot more aftermarketable. I honestly dont like the omen I have shot one and its fast but I dont like the slap feed. Its ***. Along with the offset vert feed. I just think that you would be happier. I am Happy with my promaster and I have a Alias.

[pr0xy_dA3m0n 1]

yeah..im getting the promaster, i never wanted the omen..,na dyeas, about he offset vert feed, wouldent that make it unbalanced? unless they weighted the other side...

[nonameputs]

It's not really noticable, but what really sucks is the fact that it sticks out. More of a target when coming out the right side of a bunker, plus it ends up being hard to see down field.

[Emjay]

hahaha the omen vs the promaster.... do we really have to type all the reasons why the promaster is better? honistly come on
Yeah, you 'honistly' would have to...The Omen owns the Promaster in TONS of ways

1. Its physically impossible for it to chop, unless you outrun your loader. Which probably isn't going to happen if you have a Halo B or a Z-Boarded Egg.
2. AWESOME PMI/Evil customer support. The back block for my friends Omen broke and he phoned for a new one and they had it shipped and packed in one day.
3. Accuracy has nothing do to with your gun (Well it might...But not very much) it all has to do with paint to barrel bore match, and with a great stock barrel like a Driver, your bound to be accurate.
4. Kyle sucks!!!! *Gives kyle the finger* :laugh::eyes::pissed:
5. It shoots just as fast as the promaster, no one shoots more than 25 BPS anyway.

(Thats Proxy, my teammate)

[supernothing76]

Yeah, you 'honistly' would have to...The Omen owns the Promaster in TONS of ways

1. Its physically impossible for it to chop, unless you outrun your loader. Which probably isn't going to happen if you have a Halo B or a Z-Boarded Egg.
2. AWESOME PMI/Evil customer support. The back block for my friends Omen broke and he phoned for a new one and they had it shipped and packed in one day.
3. Accuracy has nothing do to with your gun (Well it might...But not very much) it all has to do with paint to barrel bore match, and with a great stock barrel like a Driver, your bound to be accurate.
4. Kyle sucks!!!! *Gives kyle the finger* :laugh::eyes::pissed:
5. It shoots just as fast as the promaster, no one shoots more than 25 BPS anyway.

(Thats Proxy, my teammate)


LOL wow accuracy has alot to do with the gun esspesally if you shoting fast the more kick the gun has the more spread the paint will have and whats speed with woth out accuracy it will be like you blind shoting with the omen and i rather have pds then some BS cam feed garbage and a reloader b. also you for got to mention that the omen is ugly and has a wider profile witch is alright for you woodballer more power to you, but for speed ball you want to keep a low profile so who's ever shoting you has less to hit. ya theres way more to say about this subject but i really dont feel like writing a page on this.

[pr0xy_dA3m0n 1]

not that im siding with the omen, but emjay and i play speedball... supernothing why dont you write a page anyways?

[Koval15]

Well here is my comparison between the 2.
1) neither will every shop but i like the eyes on the promaster better.
2) I just got my b2k4 back from the shop and they refunded me $105 from the warrenty when they could have blamed it on me and charged me.
3) Promaster has a more adjustable board and is much faster. (I can shoot 17 with my b2k4 i can only imagine what i could do with a promaster)
4) Not that big of a price difference.
5) Not sure about if they are air hogs.
6) I think promaster has better stock parts.
All in all i think the promaster is a way better buy.

[nonameputs]

Yeah, you 'honistly' would have to...The Omen owns the Promaster in TONS of ways

1. Its physically impossible for it to chop, unless you outrun your loader. Which probably isn't going to happen if you have a Halo B or a Z-Boarded Egg.
2. AWESOME PMI/Evil customer support. The back block for my friends Omen broke and he phoned for a new one and they had it shipped and packed in one day.
3. Accuracy has nothing do to with your gun (Well it might...But not very much) it all has to do with paint to barrel bore match, and with a great stock barrel like a Driver, your bound to be accurate.
4. Kyle sucks!!!! *Gives kyle the finger* :laugh::eyes::pissed:
5. It shoots just as fast as the promaster, no one shoots more than 25 BPS anyway.

(Thats Proxy, my teammate)


Ummm... you didn't say any ways that the Omen "owns" the ProMaster. You said a bunch of equalities, some of which weren't even true. First of all you CAN chop with an omen. I don't care what pompous *** tries to tell me that it's "physically impossible", it is and you just told everyone how. You HAVE to have a fast hopper to not chop. That's no problem with me cause I have a victory boarded halo, but for people who would choose to get the omen over the PM because of the price difference would care, because chances are they are going to buy a standard evo II, which you can easily out shoot, and will easily chop. Trust me, I've done it.

Second of all, accuracy has EVERYTHING to do with your gun. If you gun is inconsistent, it doesn't matter how good a barrel you have, your balls will be all over the place.

Finally, the omen CAN'T shoot as fast as the PM, not even with the new board. The fact that it is capped at all shows that. I've ramped my pro way past 25. I don't care if nobody uses that in a game, the fact is the omen is physically handicapped and the PM isn't.

In conclusion, YES the omen 2.0 is a nice gun, and YES the ProMaster is a nice gun. Personally I prefer the PM (that's why I bought it and not the omen). But both are tourney ready out of the box. All I ask is that you stop making ******* comment and lying for your gun. It's so ****ing sad that you even feel you have to do that.

[cutomcocker1]

i can't believe you guys are arguing over promaster v. omen. omens are terrible...

the omen is a glorified blowback with an offset hopper...yeah it totaly owns the promaster... :eyes:

[Coenen]

So, we have an Evil forum giving opinions biased towards the Omen and an ICD forum endorsing the Promaster. I'm surprised it took four whole responses for it to get pointed out that this would happen.

I think that both sides have argued their points...it's left to the two of you to figure out who's marker is better. Might I suggest taking them to the field and using them? Shoot yours for a few games trade off and use your counterparts, sicne you two are friends that shouldn't be a problem. Then you can tell the next person who asks this question your findings.

Until them I think I'm going to shut this little gem down. PM me if for some odd reason you want to see it open again.