Tribal Faq

[*cpt*seawolf]

this was not made by me(LightStorm@PBcity did), but i edited/updated it:

For all those people out there wondering about the tribal just read this over and you will have no questions.

MODELS:
Twister
fluster
addicted
BBT
mephisto

Before the Tribal Select Fire line of fully automatic markers, this type of firepower could put you back $1200 or more. Now you can toss those clunky looking foreign guns for less than half the price. The BBT models offer a clean design with techno-style anodizing while the Fluster incorporates a rougher and more aggressive styling that truly lives up to the Tribal name. Fully Automatic up to 13-Shots per Second with a 11.2 oz. trigger pull, your Tribal will bring your competitors to their knees without straining a muscle. The adjustable electronic trigger allows you to choose between single shot, 3 shot burst, 6 shot burst and full-auto modes all with the flip of a switch. Incredibly, all of this is fueled by a regular 9 volt battery. The sound this marker makes on the field, firing at 13+ shots per second will send a chill down your opponents spine.

Tribal technical information:

CALIBER: .68

ACTION: Electronically operated pneumatics

POWER: Nitrogen or compressed air (CO2 if done correctly)

OPERATING INPUT PRESSURE: 800-850 PSI

CYCLE RATE: 13 shots per second

STANDARD BARREL LENGTH: 12" (standard autococker threads)

OVERALL LENGTH: 20"

WEIGHT: 2.65 lbs. without tank

OVERALL HEIGHT: 9.3"

BATTERY: 9 volt
Estimated battery life;;
200,000 shots (rechargeable battery)
100,000 shots (normal 9V battery)
Rechargeable battery available on BBT / Twister / Fluster

FIRING POSITION: Blow forward

TRIGGER PULL: O.7 LBS.

MODES OF FIRE:
Single shot (semi automatic)
Full automatic - 3 shot burst, 6 shot burst,& Fully programmable up to 13 shots per second (i.e. 6,7,8,9,10,11,12,or 13 shots per second) This allows you to match your gun speed to your feeding system perfectly.

Exhaust valve duel time adjustment
Max rate of fire- 13 shots per second



Here are some common problems and fixes for the tribal line of paintguns.

Problem 1: Gun leaks from vents above the grip frame.
Cause: AOC is set to high.
Fix: Turn AOC down. Follwow instructions from manuel or http://www.airsoldier.com

Problem 2: Gun cycles but does not shoot.
Cause: AOC to low.
Fix: Turn AOC Down. Follwow instructions from manuel or http://www.airsoldier.com

Problem 3: Gun hogs gas.
Cause: AOC to high, Dwell to high, or a combination of the two.
Fix: First turn the Dwell down (it is easyer to adjust the dwell than the AOC) if this does not work, lower the presure on the AOC. Be sure to check velecity after adjusting the setting.

Problem 4: Low velocity
Cause: The AOC may be to low, but more likely the dwell is not set high enough.
Fix: Turn the Dwell up

Problem 5: Inconsistant velocity.
Cause: Poor Stock Reg
Fix: Take apart the reg, clean it, then put it back together. Some tribal stock regs work well, but a large precentage of them don't. If a good cleaning does not help, a new reg may be needed. Air America Vigilante regs work well.


This covers the basics. It is important to maintain your tribal. Lube the Ram and set the AOC before you take it out to play. The tribal is a very reliable gun once it is set correctly. If you have any other problems with a tribal PM ME262 or Have Blue(or anyone else in this forum), We will be glad to help you.


Interested in learning more about the tribal?
Many times we are asked for our opinions or people want reviews on the gun:

Try these links:

www.airsoldier.com
www.fearfactorypb.com


The different models of the tribal are 1.0 1.8 2.0 and 2.2

1.0-6 dips non adjustable AOC no wrap around grips.
1.8-6 dips adjustable AOC no wrap around grips.
2.0-wrap around grips 8 switch board adjustable AOC
2.2-Rechargable battery,turbo valve (better efficiency) Tool kit,derlin bolt,turbo,double trigger, new chip and "improved?" barrel

[Paint Bulley]

Looks good,

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Light Storm of PBC did it i believe..

also if you have acrobat reader... check this out

this is from Have Blue's site (it is the tribal manuel) , but I'm pretty sure he didnt write it :)


http://www.airsoldier.com/tribalmanual.pdf

if you did write that.. WOW!

[Have Blue]

I certainly didn't write the Tribal manual - I merely nabbed it from the Tribal website way back when. (I did, however, write all the tech notes available on my site).

According to the file properties, the Tribal manual was written by D.Dimitrov on April 11, 2000. So happy birthday Tribal Manual! :-)

[Mephisto]

You can't buy them at any regular online paintball store anymore. At least I'm pretty sure you can't. I do know at Airsoldier.com they have new ones for sale. Good pricing too, about $300 for any model. Also Have Blue (the guy who runs the site) is reputable. In addition, its not too hard to find tribals on ebay (where i got mine) or in trading forums.

[Have Blue]

Just as a note, the ones I have are /not/ new. They're in great condidtion, but they have seen a little bit of use.

[WARPED1]

Question:the reg on Teibals controlls the fps,so if I change it to say,a Palmer stabilizer,can I still easily adjust my velocity?

[Have Blue]

Yes, I've used a Palmer Stabilzer on mine before with great results.

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by Have Blue
Yes, I've used a Palmer Stabilzer on mine before with great results.
so velocity adjustment is easy?i get palmer stuff cheap(not sponsored,but one of my team mates is close personal friends with glenn):eyes:

[Have Blue]

Check the For Sale section of http://airsoldier.com - one of the blue BBTs is up, and I'll have another up shortly.

Yes, velocity adjustment on the Stab is easy - socket head set screw on the bottom of the reg.

[tonyr]

These guns seem great, and they definatly look great. But are they reliable. I mean I've never even heard of them before. And can they compete with high end electros, like angels?

[Paint Bulley]

Yeah there reliable Tony, and if you talk to some guys over at pbnation (where the maint tribe is) the field name for the tribal is the "angel Killer" :D :)

[tonyr]

These things sound awesome. What is the best kind of tribal?

[WARPED1]

They are all functionaly the same.Except 'Mephisto',no turbo standard on it.
All the others it just comes down to wich milling you like.

[tonyr]

Cool. What setting does the mephisto have? Just semi?

[WARPED1]

Semi,3 and 6 shot burst,full auto.

[Nautica King]

wuts better the warlod chip or the furry chip ? cuz if u get the worlord chip u can get a ACE but do u really need the ACE ?

[Nautica King]

o and also i was at the fearfactory web site and i wanted to know how to make it low pressure and it says here : "Fear LPR Adapter anodize to match marker ====$45.00 + regulator." now wut does that mean ? it just says adapter !? if i get that does it map it low pressure ?

[Have Blue]

The Warlord is not a chip - it's a complete controller board replacement. ALl the info is here: http://airsoldier.com/warlord.shtml

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by Nautica King
o and also i was at the fearfactory web site and i wanted to know how to make it low pressure and it says here : "Fear LPR Adapter anodize to match marker ====$45.00 + regulator." now wut does that mean ? it just says adapter !? if i get that does it map it low pressure ? Just like it says,you get the adapter,then you'll need to buy an LPR.READ.

[daveofdoom]

i need an honast opinoin. i want to buy a tribal but im not sure threy are good guns. it is looking like the BBT on airsoldier or a vert feed cocker what do u think. i realy need to know because it will probebly be the last gun i get and i need facts.

[Have Blue]

I think a lot of that will come down to what sort of trigger you prefer. Some people just cannot get used to the pull on a cocker, yet some prefer it to an electro trigger.

Have you shot any cockers before? Not just blowing off a few shots at the chrono, but actually playing a few games with one?

[daveofdoom]

i have shot 1 sevral times never got to play a game with one. realy i like the feel of all trigers but i think i want something that is a little more reliabul than a cocker thats y i decided to buy the BBT on ur sight:D

[Gibralter]

Ive been reading tons of stuff about the tribal, and had read that the wiring wasn't/isn't the best. Is there anything you can do about that like get new wiring, or what?

[CrazyB]

Use hot glue on the solder points on the gun, be careful when you take it apart, learn to solder your self, or send it to me262 or have blue and they can replace all the wiring with higher quality stuff.

[Gibralter]

Ok. I'd probably just get the new wiring. Sounds safer and easier.

[VeNoM]

Originally posted by CrazyB
send it to me262 or have blue and they can replace all the wiring with higher quality stuff.


you would even have to send it to him Dirk/Gib.... He lives like 10 min from either of us, and ya I would say that is the best thing to do... If he does work for you on your gun he pretty much warranties it, especially since we are close to him.

[CrazyB]

ocelot, what do you mean?

[Ocelot213]

i mean, anytime they have even the smallest, litlest, insignificat problem they can run over to rich's shop and have him fix it up in a jiffy. i wish it were that easy for me. cuz then i would get a job there! man i want a job badly and esp one that i like. and btw i didn't say f'er's i said *******s

[CrazyB]

ah, didn't want an angry ocelot in the thread, that's a danger.

I wish i could get stuff fixed on my tribal, i got a solenoid that needs to be rebuilt, and i don't even wanna start on that.

[Ocelot213]

lol ocelot's may be compact but they still kick arse. anyway rebuilding a noid isn't too bad. neevr done it myself althought i have done tons of stuff in just breaking own and checking thru my merker. lemme dig up a site that might help..............http://www.vaporworks.net/noid.html
should help quite a bit

[Gibralter]

Yea, if i do go the way of a tribal, that is one BIG plus. ME262 gets alot of calls from people and takes alot of time to help out. I was talking to one of his friend's/employees and he was telling me that.

[Shotcalla]

i've been reading up about tribals and im really interested. I'm just wondering how come they dont sell them at stores?

[SilentCyclone]

Toxic toys, the maker of the Tribal line of paintball markers went out of business, but dont let that scare you. Customer service is 100 times better than when they were in business. Customer service from Have Blue or Me262 or any other members of the tribe are all good guys and will help as much as possible. So you have to get them used, well there are a few stores that sell them but the prices are outrageous considering you can get a pimpin tribal used for what stores sell them stock only. Look in the Electro trading forums here or over in the Tribal classifieds or electro forums at pbnation. And check ebay every now and then also.

[sway41]

How can i get a bbt to run on co2. Thanks!

[CrazyB]

Palm Stabilizer for a vert reg, o-rings from http://www.airsoldier.com/, an LPR and adapter would probably be a good idea.

[sway41]

Ok, because i have a chance to get a bbt in great condition (only the switch is broken on the back, i can still turn it on and off with a pen or something) for 100$, and i cant get compressed air because i have to drive 30 miles for a fill so....what about an ergo? I have one on my cocker, and a couple quick disconnects would solve that, just put the ergo on whatever gun im using. I would definately get one of those lpr's though, just the palmer stabilizer is a little pricy. Thanks again!

[jakesak]

Also anti-siphion would be a good idea or a remote(not both). Go for the BBT, it is a great deal.

[Pr0digy]

The Tribal was ment to use High Pressure gas, but there are lots of people who use CO2. An anti-siphin tank and a stabilizer would be just as good as HP gas. But if you can't afford that, use hoses to get some area to expand and still use the anti-siphin tank.

[Lopez17]

I just cleaned up a half dozen spam posts here. Anyone else spams this forum, I ban them. You've been warned. :pissed:

[kjpmkjp]

Is there anyone who would rewire the Circuit Board of my 2.0 Twister that lives in Canada. I know Andy can do it, but i would prefer keeping it in the company.