HEY!? What da funk!

[PaintballPimp01]

Whats the deal with all these little kids posting bull crap all over these forums! I mean even some moderators are saying things like "if I stay on the Honor Roll, my mom will pitch in so I can get my new gun"

What da funk!

Ya know what else I love? 14 year-olds that get shiny new Angels for their birthday from their grandparents! I'm lucky to get a whopping $75 total from all birthday cards!

What da funk!

And to top it off, there are complete idiots in here! Kids that own gunz and dont even know how they work! Whats that all about? If you dont understand your gun, don't play with it! Earn the right to use your gun, don't just take it to an Airsmith every fricking time you do something to it! Non-do-it-yourselfers have NO place in paintball!

What da funk!

I'm done for now but im sure I come back with more steam to blow off! In the meantime leave some of yours here as well:D

[VeNoM]

jealousy and envy is not a good thing :rolleyes:

its hard to be on the honor roll (wish i could do it) and i think thats good that they are being rewarded for their good work. granted they should try to maybe know about the marker a little more than its expensive and looks cool. but reallly, does it matter or affect you at all what gun other people have?

[PBfreak01]

You get $75 from birthday money!? I'm lucky if I get $40 from all of my relatives (used to get more like $140 when my grandma was alive).

If I stay on the honor roll, my mom would pitch in "thats nice" and tax, and maybe if I'm lucky $30.

[Shazaam]

Thats a little harsh...Kids enjoy paintball. They dont need to know how their marker works, they prolly just get a rental store to fix em up and clean em for them, Or get their parents. Some kids just get what they want...but paintball is another sport where stuff aint cheap, and of course you will get some stupid kids playing, while others are geniuses. I personally hate being on a kids team, I ususally get the ones that suck and i gotta tell them what to do, but they still screw up. Not very often you get a kid thats better then u.

[Killer Kat]

Like you've got issues! Jealously to start! You don't have children I take it? I do! They're both older than you are now, I've wanted them to have all the things that I as a kid couldn't or didn't. Spoiled? No not at all. Loved? Darn right! I'm helping them thru college right now, Am I rich, hardly, I just love'em!
Sounds to me like these "kids" as you called them just might have parents that are like me. They're loved and shown in a tangible way that just happens to be paintball.
As for the 14 year old "Angel" bithday gift? Tell me would you accept it? I know I'm a little envious myself, but I try and remind myself about coveting others, and their possessions!(I didn't say it was easy) I'm still working on this.
Now as for your last statement, these forums are set up for exactly those people and exactly that reason. If they don't have a site like this they'd have to keep going to an Airsmith, and having someone be-little there knowledge, doesn't help there self esteem either. I'm sure you didn't know all there is to know about paintball when you first were introduced to the sport. And had to rely on others for help.
Tell me PaintballPimp01, were you born in this "funky mood", or have you been working at it all your life.

As for me what funks me out, are people who think they're better then others! Sound like any one we know?

[VeNoM]

i dont know, i have seen kids younger than me that are just great. (of course i've seen more that arent as good, but still) i have seen kids on teams with their parents and they have angels or nice cockers but i feel they honestly deserve because they are very good players.

[Ebonclaw]

Personally, I kinda see what he's getting at Kat, I mean, let's face it, we worked hard for our paintguns and there are kids out there using WD40 to lube their Angel that runs on Co2 that their parents bought them, then, they turn around and use it while it DOES work to shoot up property and generally be a public menace. Kinda frustrating. But you make an excellent point, if I were given an Angel for my brithday, I'd definatly accept it. Still, I don't think ANYone should be getting a thousand dollar ANYTHING for their birthday. That's not teaching kids the value of money. You wanna givethem a thousand dollar something, give them cash and let them manage it. I mean, I pull about $200 or a little less total for my brithday in cash/stuff and I'm perfectly content cuz I know there's people out there that don't even get $50 or even celebrate their birthday.
My thoughts on the whole thing:
If you're gonna own a gun, take the time to learn how to take care of it and use it. These kids won't learn anything about paintball if they have to get their parents every time they chop a ball. Not just because it's simply something they need to learn how to do for the sake of paintball, but if mommy and daddy come to the kid's rescue every five minutes, they'll never learn to do ANYthing on their own. Sometimes you gotta let kids skin their knees so they learn to wear kneepads when skateboarding.

[Killer Kat]

I'm just saying we don't need to sweat the small stuff. And we should all try and help one another. I certainly don't want anyone feeling alienated about there status on the learning curve of paint, I should also state that my boys weren't just handed things for no reason, they earned their tangibles thru good grades, chores around the house, as well as love. Being a single parent I too know the value of a dollar.
Earning vs Deserving vs Given, are three totally different topics. I don't agree with just giving stuff away including respect. That applies for guns as well as people. I think learning all that you can is a good start to earning respect. That applies to life as well as paintball.

[dropkick]

Originally posted by PaintballPimp01

some moderators are saying things like "if I stay on the Honor Roll, my mom will pitch in so I can get my new gun"


Is there a problem with working out a deal with your parents for good grades? I do it all the time, because I sure don't have enough money lying around to pay for every little paintball thing i need. I have a girlfriend to pay for.

Ya know what else I love? 14 year-olds that get shiny new Angels for their birthday from their grandparents!

You know what I love? Whiny little pricks who ***** and moan about how much better other people have it. Boo hoo.


Kids that own gunz and dont even know how they work!


And what If your a new Autococker owner, chances are you will run into one or two problems when you get the gun. Are you supposed to know your gun inside and out before you buy it? Give me a break.


Earn the right to use your gun, don't just take it to an Airsmith every fricking time you do something to it!


"Doing it yourself" voids the warrenty, so rather than risk screwing up your gun, I would take it to your local shop.


Non-do-it-yourselfers have NO place in paintball!


Niether do whiners.


I'm done for now but im sure I come back with more steam to blow off

And I'll be right here to remind you of what an idiot you are.

[Richy_C]

You know, you could have just said my name, i have no problem with it. If you knew anything about my school life, you would think that my parents chipping in to get me working is school would be an excellant idea. I know how these guns work, and it's not like i'm not doing anything for the help i'm receiving. I was extremely greatful when the deal was mearly purposed, and if i carry my part out i will be much more greatful when i receive some help in getting a new marker. This deal has me working harder in school then previously before, which works out for everyone in the end, not just me. So i'd appreciate it if you tried to learn a little bit more about the situation before you make harsh statments like you have.

[elTwitcho]

"what da funk" lol, I love it. Seriously though, I get somewhat irritated when kids get everything bought for them. I don't think you can truly appreciate what you've got if it's just handed to you. I had to work 40 hour weeks on top of going to school for minimum wage, sacrifice my social life, and even my grades some to get my marker. Yeah, it sort of bugs me when people get anything they want, but then again, alot of things bug me, and if you spend too much time dwelling on them, you're just not gonna enjoy anything. So funk that, ignore it

[davkad]

Originally posted by Ebonclaw
I don't think ANYone should be getting a thousand dollar ANYTHING for their birthday.

It's pretty common (not in my family though...) .... especially in middle class areas for 16 year olds, +/- a few years, recieve cars for their birthdays. tell me you have ever seen a car for less than 1k.

[davkad]

oh... and i am sort of in the same case as richy... i wanted a paintball gun really badly this summer... my parents were goin to get me one as a gift (they have missed out on many birthdays)... but i refused it. i told my parents that i would work for it, taht if i got honor role my the end of mid-terms... then they would get me a paintball gun.

i am very glad I proposed that, number one... it gave me the motivation i needed to get 90's.... second, i had time to join message boards and learn about markers. by the time i bought my gun, i had studied like hell... knew the pro's and con's of most things, and was very prepared to take care of my first paintball gun. now, before i get any paintball gun, i will spend some time learning about <marker>....

I dont think it's a bad thing... if a parent sees their child needing motivation, and has the money to provide them a little incentive... go for it. Kat is right, it's not spoiling... it's nurturing....

it's spoiling when they go out and buy tricked cockers, when they have never owned another gun, and they have no idea to care for the guns.....

on the other hand, you will not feel the same joy if it was just "given" to you as a gift... but i did not just get mine... i worked hard for it. I got out of bad habits, academically, and cleaned up my act... I got the sufficient marks, and was rewarded with my first paintball gun. thanks ma' :D

[PaintballPimp01]

Hey! I know I may come off as real jerk after those comments, but I really don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, shoulda said that earlier though huh? As for the importance of these forums, I understand that, and I guess it isn't really that stuff Ive said before as much as it is the uneducated remarks and flaming that I see in here all the time. Use this example:

I mean if a person is asking what type of Piranha they should get, and someone responds with "Get a Spyder, they're better", where's the beef in that response!? I would prefer to see people explain their reasoning for saying so or just not respond at all.

Note, that you who have responded to this have all been very good "responders".

Again sorry to have upset anyone, but that was the purpose of this thread anyway, well not to upset, but to just vent. Am I jealous? No. But I am glad to see at least some people share the same feelings on the subject as myself.

[elTwitcho]

It's all good. Some people I agree on these forums give advice when they don't know crap. That's true of any forum. We've also got alot of people who know their stuff, so I think it really balances out

[VeNoM]

Originally posted by PaintballPimp01
Use this example:

I mean if a person is asking what type of Piranha they should get, and someone responds with "Get a Spyder, they're better", where's the beef in that response!? I would prefer to see people explain their reasoning for saying so or just not respond at all.




ya i too have seen this and it is kind of annoying, i see a lot "just get a timmy" or impy ones also . . . i actually like when someone suggests something with good reasons to back it up, but when they just say something with out knowing anything about it, it annoys me.

[fireblade]

Heh, my two cents I guess..

I worked my butt off for my gun, a bruizer outlaw. I saved up for it (I can only spare like $30 a week, I'm saving up for college too) so it took forever, but it's worth it. I played the hell out of my gun, and I'm still having lots of fun with it, I can basically fix anything that goes wrong with it now. It's annoying when I go up to play, and I'm playing against a bunch of lamer 13 year olds with no skill, with unlimited amounts of paint and cockers and electros. Same thing with cars, actually. I can understand having a little help with your car from your parents, I completely agree with whoever it was up there who said he'd like to give his kids opprotunities he didn't have. But.. seriously, why the hell does a kid need a brand new, $10k-$20k car? What happened to working for your crap?

Oh well.. my '89 celebrity 0wnz j00, and I'm one of the better players in my area. All's good, I suppose.

[THE_Cobra58]

*mumbles* i'm lucky to get $20 for my b-day

anyways if a kid gets a $1000 marker he probably doesn't deserve it at all. he should save up his $(like i'm going to have to do to get my impy). i'd rather earn something to me than have it handed directly to me... would i accept the gift? oh yes

[AngrySloth]

All the paintball stuff I've ever owned I paid for with my own earnings. My parents don't believe in spending large amounts of money on people, even though we're pretty well off. I had to buy my own car. I spent $2500 on my '91 Miata, which I love by the way, when all the other people at my "rich, preppy" school where getting brand-spankin' new BMW's and Mercedes for their 16th birthdays.
In my opinion, when you save for and buy something yourself, you appreciate it more. I don't like the fact that 11 year-olds are getting Angels and such, but I don't stress about it because there's really nothing I can do about it. It would just be a waste of energy to complain.

[jaredu]

If a 13 year old kid gets an angel for his b-day or something, he should

a.)keep quiet and act like other players
b.)mouth off a lot, but he better have something to back up his mouth or he'll be in some trouble

My parents' contribution to me playing paintball: $00.00!!!!

[Cerberust]

im 16 and i got a 98C , i researched guns for months after i rented, and found this site, which was the greatest factor in helping me choose my gun. I'm kinda tired of the general sneering at anyone whos rich, not all rich people are spoiled *******s, some people work their damn asses off to get up there, and just because a kid gets an angel for his birthday doesnt automatically mean hes spoiled, granted the law of averages might be working in favor..

[UTLadiesMan]

People get rewards for good grades??? Mine are a duty and I you should always take pride and respect in your work. Knowing you did your possible best is reward enough. Personal respect should be plenty motivation enough.

Bah... Last semester I had the flu, and I missed one of my midterms. Despite having all of the papers showing I was sick, the professor still gave me a 0 for missing it. I talked to the Ombudsman and I couldn't do a thing about it. I had to drop the course to keep from failing, so I had to pay my parents back for the 4 hours of tuition plus class fees. The deal with my parents was that they would not pay for any classes that I didn't get a 'C' or better in. All in all, I think it's very generous, and am grateful to get it. Meanwhile, I don't get bonuses for good work, because that's what is expected of me by my parents, and myself. In the real world, your bonus for a job well done, is a job long kept. You mess up once though, and you're gone. So, anyway, if you are fortunate enough to be rewarded for excelling what should already be important to you, revel in it, for it won't last forever.

[aNtHrAx32]

Originally posted by THE_Cobra58
*mumbles* i'm lucky to get $20 for my b-day

anyways if a kid gets a $1000 marker he probably doesn't deserve it at all. he should save up his $(like i'm going to have to do to get my impy). i'd rather earn something to me than have it handed directly to me... would i accept the gift? oh yes

Damn, Cobra... I couldn't agree more. I used to not like my parents for that concept (they said they wouldn't buy me a car when I turned 16, even though a lot of my friends had their cars when they were 15), up until I was about 15 and finally realized my meaning of life (thanks to the last time I ever dropped acid, and experienced a very near-death experience). When it came to paintball, my entire family (grandparents, relatives, parents, etc.) bought me my first paintball gun, mask, and tank for Christmas (a Model 98 with a Flatline and a 16 oz CO2 tank, a damned reliable gun). I had to pay for everything else... so, being the die-hard geek I am, I managed to get a job doing tech support for a major in-state ISP two months after my 15th birthday, and was finally able to work my way into my vision of "success". I bought my first car (a 1987 Jeep Grand Wagoneer with 140,000 miles on it, a true beauty, for under $1k), and in all honesty, was a much happier person knowing that I earned the money for the car. I played with the Tippmann for a couple years, and then moved up to a Mag (oooh, soo beautiful). Working for things gives me an idea of value, so I tend to respect things I own, and try not to take things for granted. Sorry for getting into my life's story, but I just thought I'd share. I truly respect my parents for their decision not to buy me a car, as it has made me (IMHO) a better person.

(by the way, I'm at work right now, and fortunately, I'm relatively low on the call queue :D )