custom dragun tes triggers

[dayward]

i will be making custom triggers for any gun
mainly tes buy if you want something else send me a drawing of what you want
here are some rough prototypes out of acrylic
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29415330160.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29415333354.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29323273887.jpg&s=x2
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29323275694.jpg&s=x2
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29018472843.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29018470461.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28922112541.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28922190251.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28922123288.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28922120965.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28922115068.jpg&s=x10
the real thing will be rollerbearing adjustable and made out of black delrin
before i start id like to know if any one would be interested
if you want to be a tester it will be cheaper
please post any comments or pm me
thanks

here is a link to my other thread on pbnation
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1233900

[pbrascal37]

umm good idea and I would buy one but I already make my own

[qhimq]

tbo already beat you. don't bother lol...

http://www.*******s.com/bettertriggers/dragun.htm

[dayward]

i know about tbo's triggers
mine are going to be way cheaper, have tons of shapes, and roller bearings
thanks

[dayward]

i am not in this for a lot of money or competition
i wanted to make these for myself and anyone who wants something cheap and custom
check out the link to pbnation i have some pics now
thanks
keep the ideas comming

[dayward]

any ideas

[Jenkins]

Post up some pics of ones you've made or are going to make. Something like the blade trigger on an Intelliframe (for mags) would be awsome, I have one and it's amazing.

[dayward]

if you belong to pbnation i have sketches and one i did last night
i am working on 4 more pics should be up tonight
thanks for ideas keep them comming

[Psycho_warden]

Actually, TheBetterOne is nomore. I emailed him about possibly making a trigger for my X-Mag, and he told me that he is getting out of the business.

[Jenkins]

if you belong to pbnation i have sketches and one i did last night
i am working on 4 more pics should be up tonight
thanks for ideas keep them comming

I don't like pbnation so....ya. Post some pics here too. A trigger like the samurai on E2's is cool too. Like an up-side down blade almost.

[dayward]

pics
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28922112541.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28922190251.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28922123288.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28922120965.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28922115068.jpg&s=x10
these triggers work
they are not adjustable or bearing yet
i wanted to get responses from customers before i spend alot of $
any other questions or comments
thanks

[pbrascal37]

dude I kinda like the trigger on the far right in the first pic

edit: is your TES all blue

[Jenkins]

I like the one seond from teh right, it looks good on the marker.

[TESballer]

I like the one seond from teh right, it looks good on the marker.

I was thinking the same thing, geniuses think alike... yes... we are geniuses :D

[dayward]

its a black to blue fade
if you guys like them and want some tell me
when i get a couple more replies i will start making them w/ rollerbearigs and delrin
thanks

[qhimq]

i just got my tbo trigger less than a month ago...and he didn't seem that he liked his job very much :P

It seems like you cut your delrin with a bandsaw. Don't get me wrong...you could do a much better job at making triggers than I could, but tbo triggers look a lot smoother than yours.

[dayward]

those are just quick examples
i havent started making the real thing yet
i dont have the delrin or bearings
i want to see if people would be interested b4 i buy abunch of stuff
these examples wewe made out of 1/4 acrylic w/ only a grinder
when i get the delrin it will be3/8 and i will ginish sand and polish to gloss finish not just a grinder
thanks for comments
keep them comming

[TESballer]

what will the price range be on these?

[Jenkins]

I was thinking the same thing, geniuses think alike... yes... we are geniuses :D

Haha....

I'm sure if you got the word around that plenty of people would be interested in buying some, depends on the price though and also the method of payment...how you gonna do the transfer? Paypal, check, etc?

[dayward]

paypal 15-20 depending on trigger adjustments and if its a really hard shape
prob 15 tho
how else should i get the work around

[dayward]

new pics of 4th trigger
black silver
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29018472843.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29018470461.jpg&s=x10
please post if you are interested in a trigger
i want to get started soon
thanks

[Jenkins]

That one looks pretty cool. Are you planning on making any for other markers besides the TES?

[dayward]

maybe b2k4
i think tes works on m3
if someone could send me detailed enough pics or a trigger to see where the contact points are i prob could make other styles

[pbrascal37]

I could probly send you a spyder frame w/ a switch in it (no other internals) so you can make them for something in return...

or not whatever I am always happy to help a brutha out lol

[dayward]

that would be great
do you have an extra trigger so i know what general shape it needs
or can you send a prototype or sketch with it
in return i could give you a trigger or two
did u see th new triggers
what do you think
thanks for everything all of you
if people talk to me on aim so i can be sure ill have some customers
ill start making triggers aim daywardtes
thanks again everyone

[dayward]

any ideas
im buying black delrin
i will get started soon talk to me on aim or pm me if you interested

[dayward]

still looking for more ideas
make some sketches you want i can try a few out
thanks

[Jenkins]

Tonite if I get bored I'll sketch a few and pm it to you in the morning, I don't got much else to do after I get home from martial arts class. And can't you die delron? Like buy white delron and make it blue/red etc.?

[dayward]

i think you can im not 100% sure tho
i was planning on just doing black delrin
i think if you dye it it isct very dark so it would be pinkish and light blue
if you guys want me to get white and dye it i can i just dont think it will look that good

[dayward]

ne questions
any new ideas

[thedayismine]

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29018472843.jpg&s=x10

wow it almost looks like you could fit your finger in that

[dayward]

you can
what do you mean
do you have any sketches you want me to try
are you interested in buying one

[dayward]

im going to make triggers this afternoon
send me some ideas

[Paintball=life]

What are those made of? They arn't real smooth looking. Plus some of those triggers u won't have that much room for ur fingers. Like when running u'll be hitting the trigger

[dayward]

the prototypes are acryllic
i have alread said these are prototypes and therefore yes they are rough
they are quick examples to show designs
the real thing will be black delrin and polished with smooth edges
i will be doing a fish hook one
a snake one
and a SWEET double trigger
any other ideas

[Paintball=life]

U could try the design of the trigger of this gun- http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=rUxD7tl4vk9Dlpoh6zqDRtOx5X_HbkJ6w98=?Pro ductID=5X3AqArbI5cAAAEETnuiCxpb#

[dayward]

i have a b2k4-same trigger style as freestyle
i really like it
the new snake trigger will look some what like that
same feel at least

[dayward]

newest double trigger
you will love it
told you it would be REALLY SWEET
its my favorite
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29323273887.jpg&s=x2
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29323275694.jpg&s=x2
what do you think

[Jenkins]

That looks pretty cool. Nice work

[dayward]

thanks
thats my favorite and best
i dont think anything can top it
i will have the fish hook trigger up later

[Jenkins]

This is my favorite trigger of all time:

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/2801/tomsmag5ut.th.png (http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tomsmag5ut.png)
Click to see the trigger well.
Yes, that is my mag. And that trigger is just amazing, I will never get anything else.

[pbrascal37]

well pm me about getting that frame dayward

I like the look of that one at the top of the last page but it seems kinda impractical but many triggers that seem like that can turn out to be awesome

you should take a look at the omen triggers I have always taken a likeing to those.

[trailer_trash]

would like one for my 02
no need for roller bearing just want a nice smooth finish and shaped like the one that is second from the right in the first pic in post #11

[trailer_trash]

maybe something like this
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/penny_wisdom/trig2.jpg
that way it's like you are walking the trigger upside down
I shot an alias with one of these swoop triggers and it was fast!
(like all timmies) but easy to walk in that position IMO

[dayward]

pbrascal if you could mail me a couple of trigger designs/templates on paper that will work for the spider then i can just make them instead of you sending me a frame i looked at the omen triggers i hate the last curve on the bottom

i have a sythe trigger on my b2k4 look that up on google they are cool and easy to walk
im doing a fishook one today that is curved but not that much
trailertrash when i get the materials i can make you one w/out bearings just dont have delrin yet that trigger looks kind of fat it just looks a little wierd for some reason i will do it for you if you want to buy it but not for a prototype

remember i can do any trigger you want to buy but i dont have the delrin yet
im just using acrylic
when you buy the trigger i will do anything you want
but some of the designs i dont want to do for prototypes because i will be keeping them
what do you think of my last trigger bottom last page
any other ideas

[Paintball=life]

On ur "Best" one maybe if u made it more smooth instead of the 2finger things i would like it better

[dayward]

anythings possible
remember these are just examples
i was combining ideas that people wanted on pbnation

[trailer_trash]

yeah I messed it up a little
but stretch it out and viola

[dayward]

can you think of any other designs you would like to see

[trailer_trash]

like someone said before the one on the indian creek FS-7

[pbrascal37]

alright i will do that and I will scan the actual frame as well to see if it will work with the trigger guard and such

[dayward]

you could post mail me a couple life size sketches that work
or email but i dont know if it will print right size

[dayward]

new triggers
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29415330160.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29415333354.jpg&s=x10
what do you think

[pbrascal37]

oooh I like the first one but it reminds me of a stingray tail more than a fish hook, How easy is it to walk?

[dayward]

pretty easy to walk
could come forward more on bottom
would make it more fish hook like and easier to walk

[pbrascal37]

I kinda like the way it looks now

i have always had an interest in the omens trigger but I never have had the time to make one I think I will have you make one for my project marker that has a spyder frame once I get a chance to scan and make some sketches of the frame:

[dayward]

thats kool
i can do anything custom you want
you dont have to make it look like something else
you could make it unique
what ever you want to do
thanks for replys
keep them comming

[pbrascal37]

I'd like one like the omen without the last curve and matbe something else to makit look cool

[qhimq]

do you have a pic of a trig you did that is all polished and sanded to perfection??? Do these come with magnets?(srry if you said this already)

[dayward]

pbrascal send me a sketch of what ever you want
qhimq dont have a trigger perfectly finished yet because i dont have supplies
i wasnt planning on having them with magnets
do you know any place that has them cheap how much $ how many mags
or if you want magnets you could install them yourself

i dont know how many people really want a trigger
so i dont have the supplies
if you are really interested or cant buy it right away but still want one send me a pm so i can count how many people are truely interested
thanks

[qhimq]

i think hobby lobby might have them. I already have a awsome trigger so i'm not interested just asking questions that people havn't already.

[dayward]

thanks
i got some polypropolyne and im trying it out to see how it works
i will show the trigger tomorrow

[dayward]

i did a ocuple triggers out of polypropolyne
its amazingly strong
any one interested
do you guys want adjustments
and roller bearings
telll me what you would like to see

[pbrascal37]

PICS!!!

roller bearing are cool and make sure it is at least adjustable rearwards via a seet screw near the switch and forwards via either the top like a spyder trigger and have it push agaist the bottom side of the frame or like the stock TES set screw and have it push right in front of the trigger against the trigger frame. the TEs way is better because you don't have to make a little ledge that goes up just for the set screw

here is the difference between the trigger on the tes (which you know what it looks like and the
spyder:
__________
____ _____|
........\___/
......../___/
.......|___/
....../___/
..../_____\
.....\____/
...../___/
....|__/
.../__/
../__/
./_/
/-/
/

[dayward]

could you draw a pic and post it
any other ideas

[pbrascal37]

I am gonna get you those pics and sketches real soon probly tommorow, once I get them if you give me your address I will snail mail them to you

[dayward]

k thanks
my email is ajdjhayward@earthlink.net
that will really help

this is off topic but anyone interested in a new 4pc phat barrel kit

[pbrascal37]

how much ya asking and what threading, I am not rreally intersted but that is pretty inportant for people to know

get some pics of your new triggers up I am interested to see what you have come up with now

[dayward]

im asking 65-75 its bnib spyder
retail is 120 or more

i made 1 new trigger
ive been really busy
this trigger actually works tho
b4 i didnt have right material or thickness

i will post pics tonight
i want to make another trigger

[dayward]

finally finished trigger
sorry it took so long
had alot of school work
here they are
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29818452818.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29818450612.jpg&s=x10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29818443995.jpg&s=x10
it is right thickness no bearings or adjustment screws
let me know how many people want to buy a trigger i will buy bearings and screws
thanks
any ideas

[pbrascal37]

thats just how I want the one fro my project marker, it is in fact almost the exact same one I sketched up teh other day, I am on my way to make sketches of frame and such now

good job buddy, they have been gettin better every time you do em, you have really got a knack for this, have you thought about making other parts?

I think eye covers would probly be one of the best things you could think about making because only like two companies make eye covers and they are way too expensive, when they themsleves do absolutely nothing for the performance

[Paintball=life]

I know for ONE it's like $40!!! and for the triggers could u make one that doesn't come out as far on the bottom? How much will they be?

[dayward]

i could try eye covers thats a great idea
i dont think white would look too good
after i took the pics i used black sharpie and it absorbed it and gave the trigger a really nice smooth flat black look
the triggers are 15-20 do you want a blade like trigger draw a sketch
i dont know about eyecovers maybe 30-40 a set im not sure i dont know what all it requires
thanks great ideas
keep them comming

[pbrascal37]

I think you could definitly make them for about 20 which is what would make people buy form you instead of hybrid, who charges 40+ they aren't exactly the most complicated things and I think you may be able to maek them farely easily but I am not sure what kind of tools it would require adn what you have. I am gonna check out some pics of eye covers and get back to you

[Jenkins]

Looks good:tup:. I'll try and get some sketches up for ya, maybe give you some ideas, maybe over the weekend, right now all I have time for is a few posts, I'm getting ready to go hunting, gotta get my bow set up right, it already cost me a deer. Anyways nice job, keep it coming, and the eye cover thing would be great, they're always overpriced.

[Paintball=life]

For the eye cover just use the eye cover from ur TES as a start for the Base and where to put the wholes. Then u can make them look how u want.

[dayward]

thanks great ideas
so is it 40 each or 40 a pair
just wondering
any other ideas
thanks

[pbrascal37]

I would sell them for 20 a piece and 35 for the pair (most people will buy the pair cuz most markers use breakbeams, not bounce beams. and as pb=life said start with tes eye covers and work your way out from there as you get more experience

it is very cool to have someone so enthusiastic about making machined parts that companies charge way too much for and you seem to be catching on to the triggers fast

[jmbishop]

I think I'm going to be making my own trigger soon(none of downwards triggers look appealing to me so far) but feel free to use any of my designs of mine you like.http://x10.putfile.com/10/29314462844.jpg

[pbrascal37]

i LIKE NO. 2 and 3 too if it went forward a little farther

[dayward]

bishop what are you going to do just wondering
ill try the eye covers
any other ideas
thanks

[jmbishop]

I'm probably going try 2 and 5

[dayward]

i am going to get stuff this weekend
anyone interested in purchasing a trigger

[dayward]

anyone want a trigger

[pbrascal37]

I want one, I want it three way adjustable and with roller bearings

[pbrascal37]

but I am gonna need to get you those measurements and sketches first, I never get a chance to get around to it. Have you decided on a price for the triggers yet?

[dayward]

for 3pt adjustable w/ rollerbearings prob 20-25
just let me know what you need
thanks

[pbrascal37]

I'll get back to you on that, I gotta see how much car insurance is this month and then I will tell you for sure if I want one or not.

[dayward]

just let me know whenever you can
ill still have them
any other ?
thanks

[dayward]

ne ideas
thanks

[dayward]

who wants one pm me
thanks

[pbrascal37]

any new pics you kinda left us and went over to the nation :(

[dayward]

no body has been replying
i have some cut out not completely finished tho
i got some set screws
no bearings yet tho
radioshack was out :(
ill try to tap one and get some pics tomorrow
got some sketches ne one
thanks

[dayward]

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/32518545410.jpg&s=x12
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/32518535771.jpg&s=x12
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/32518532446.jpg&s=x12

[dayward]

these arent finished except one on gun but i could still polish more and it doesnt have a bearing
the white ones are going to have bearings and will be sanded and tapped when i get the bearings next week
the black and other white im going to polish and keep cuz they wont have bearings
i can make them adjustable if someone wants one
lmk what you think
thanks

[dayward]

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/32910270089.jpg&s=x12
what u think
i didnt finish the tops cuz noone will see them when in the gun
they are extremely smooth
i only tapped the ones that wont touch the switch by them self
so i think there is 3-4 taped ones but i can tap any if ud want it
i think im up to 5-6 orders so far including 1-2 testers
pm me if interested
thanks

[dayward]

new pics w/ bearings
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/32917313785.jpg&s=x12
now that i have the bearings i really dont see y u guys would want them
they dont help unless u have them all the way through
but i guess its better than stock cuz its not metal rubbing directly on metal
it might help a little not much tho
jmbishop would you want one of these styles or one of these triggers
people who want a trigger tell me which you like best from this pic
any other ideas/comments thanks

[prozachjunkie]

i like the one second from the left and the one third from the right those would look cool on a tes. wat do u use to make them because it looks like they are made out of some kind of thick plastic from those pics but wat ever works lol.

[dayward]

its polypropolyne it starts thick but i can shape it down
its as good as delrin
are you interested in buying one

[prozachjunkie]

i dont kno i might how much r u selling them for

[dayward]

20
w/ bearing and 2pt adjustment screws

[prozachjunkie]

would u give a deal if i bought two of them

[dayward]

prob 35

[dayward]

u like any styles
do you want a few
aim daywardtes

[prozachjunkie]

does that inlcude shipping and was payment plan do u use

[dayward]

yeah shipped and paypaled

[dayward]

ne one interested
pm me if u want one im making a list
or talk on aim
im sending some out to testers next week
the results should be up in a few
any ?/comments
thanks

[dayward]

new pics
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/33610423163.jpg&s=x12
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/33610412140.jpg&s=x12
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/33610420022.jpg&s=x12
the paint works great
the trigger that has been drying for 3-4 days doesnt chip any more
if you dig your finger nail in really hard and pull it only makes the line where your finger was in the paint so it really just dents
it doesnt chip or scratchthe paint is a little glossier than the anno
if you rub the paint gast and hard then it kind of foggs up
but if you breath on it then rub it with a clean cloth it looks just as new


i might try grips today
i would try eyecovers but noone posted pics

any ?/comments
thanks

[qhimq]

Well, I just got a NME, and I don't really like the trig on it.

If I was to show you detailed specs/pics/measurements could you make me a trig?

[dayward]

i could problably
it would be alot easier w/ a frame but your prob not willing to do that
it would be alot easier if you mailed me the exact sketches
if its a diff thickness i might not be able to use 2 roller bearings
if the trigger pin is a diff width then i woldnt have any bearings
i would also need to know where the contact points are
it would be easier if i got it really close and didnt paint it
then you finished it up when you get it
lmk

thanks

[qhimq]

do you use white delrin? can you buy some black delrin?

The pin is the same size as the timmy pin. I won't mind that i would have to dremmel the trigger a little to fit it in. The most important part is the contact points like you said. I'll start on a diagram.

[dayward]

right now im using polypropolyne and painted it black
i will try to buy some delrin
if the pin is the same length and the inside of the frame is close to the same i could do 2 bearings if not then 1
when i get the pics ill let you know what we can do
thanks

[dayward]

anyone want a trigger

[dayward]

post some designs
im gonna have some time
even if you dont want to buy them if they are good designs ill make them u can buy later if you want or not at all
just post some good designs
thanks

[pbrascal37]

have you sold alot???

[dayward]

just 1
pending 2nd
and a few people want one after xmas

any designs

[pbrascal37]

nothing good, actually I really like the NME trigger maybe I could get you a sketch of my friends in a few days

[dayward]

any sketches

[dayward]

any new sketches yet
i got the black delrin in and it works pretty well
let me know if you want anything
thanks

[iluvmyTES]

hey this is just a design i dea and ive seen it like once. its like a backwards 3 with a screw in the top part so that it touches the switch