Anti-siphoning. I don't get it.

[Sumguy21]

Ok. I get what it is, a small tube curved to make sure that no liquid co2 gets into the gun, or whatever. I don't get how it works... for some reason, it's important for me to know how everything works before making a commitment.
Heh.
So will someone explain to me what exactly goes on?

[Mentalmonkey10]

ok, when the tank screws in, then mark the top of the tank with something. because CO2 is stored as a liquid, there is a "pool" on the botom of the tank. the tube gets curved so the end is above the pool so that only CO2 gas is sucked through the tube and out the end of the tank. here is a more in-debth artical about anti-siphoning (http://www.ottersccustoms.com/antisiphon.html)

[Sumguy21]

Very thanks! I found that website again, yay!

Anyways, it didn't really explain HOW it worked.. it just said it did. But that's cool, I have my basic answer of my "do you have to screw it in so the tube goes up?" quetion I had in my head.

[Mentalmonkey10]

ya, no problem.

Again, anti-siphoning takes CO2 gas instead of CO2 liquid and puts it in your gun.

[Lord Delta]

Very thanks! I found that website again, yay!

Anyways, it didn't really explain HOW it worked.. it just said it did. But that's cool, I have my basic answer of my "do you have to screw it in so the tube goes up?" quetion I had in my head.

The pic on that website pretty much explained everything, so I don't know what you don't understand...

Basically when you compress CO2 as is done in your tank (at ~850psi) the CO2 compresses into a liquid because of the pressure. You do not want to suck this liquid into your gun as it will expand unevenly and rapidly causing fluctuaions in performance of your paintball gun.

Gravity naturally pulls this liquid CO2 to the bottom of the tank. When held in the normal position (imagine you're shooting at somebody) the anti-syphon tube is positioned so that the tip/opening of the tube is not in this liquid phase pool of CO2. Within the tank some is liquid phase, some is gaseous phase. The anti-syphon tube sucks up the gaseous phase.

If you ever take chemistry you will learn that after firing a shot you remove some of the gaseous CO2, then the pressure in the tank decreases and some of the liquid co2 goes into the gaseous phase, so you never run out of gaseous CO2 (well, until the tank is empty that is because there's no more liquid to vaporize).

The whole idea is to only draw gaseous CO2 from your tank and leave behind the liquid to create more gaseous CO2.

That was a little convoluted, but you should be able to understand it.

[Sumguy21]

Ah, thanks. :)

[Mr Murderdoll89]

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I have to admit I never knew how Anti-Syphoning worked.

[GT_Hawk]

I know the concept and I know people say its great, but to me its not that great a solution. If I change the peace the tank threads into, then the siphon needs to be re done. And if I cant just toss that tank onto another gun, its now specific to one guns;s current setup. I am a tech (fix tools at work) and am a computer programer (collage down, almost finished university then ig et a computer job) and in both I like general solutions that have little restrictions. this is way to specific solution for my liking.

I would be very interested in finding someone tho has fund a way to siphon a tank where direction don't matter. Now that would be impressive to see.

[cheddarbob]

just make sure when you anti siphon your tank that the airsmith knows what the hell he is doing lol. I took mines to a pb shop and he didnt know the concept either and how to properly install it. I had to tell him how to do it (i didnt know the concept before either but eventually found out). Just make sure you ask them if they know how to bend the tube and properly install it before you take it to them. The guy who did mines had the tube bent downwards sucking all the liquid co2 and i had to tell him to redo it, so you dont really want to end up with something like that.

[Lord Delta]

I know the concept and I know people say its great, but to me its not that great a solution. If I change the peace the tank threads into, then the siphon needs to be re done. And if I cant just toss that tank onto another gun, its now specific to one guns;s current setup. I am a tech (fix tools at work) and am a computer programer (collage down, almost finished university then ig et a computer job) and in both I like general solutions that have little restrictions. this is way to specific solution for my liking.

I would be very interested in finding someone tho has fund a way to siphon a tank where direction don't matter. Now that would be impressive to see.

2 solutions...

1) Buy an HPA tank. HPA is a billion times better than CO2. It's definitely worth the price.

2) Instead of an anti syphon tube installed, get a remote. Instead of attaching the tank into an ASA directly you attach a coiled flexible hose to the tank and ASA. Then you get a pack w/ a spot to hold the tank. The hose functions as an extended expansion chamber in adition to lightening your marker.

[bruc3]

or you can take off the gas through/x-chamber and screw the bottle in directly so its vertical and there is no need for anti siphoning, i did that on my goose cause im to cheap for hpa or a/s

[Mentalmonkey10]

yup, both lord delta and bruc are correct. the only problem with those is that you don't have a stock unless you buy one.