camo or not??

[BLiNDMAN]

what do u think??

[MuckRaker]

I didn't vote, cause I'd have to go both ways. First, I don't think camo does much good in rec ball because the games are shorter than a big game or 24 hour game. So there's not much time to get into a position and utilize you camo. IN speedball, or on an urban field, camo is useless, unless you have pallet, bunker or plywood pattern BDUs. However, army BDUs are extremely comfortable and less expensive than some of the paintball pants/shirts sold in pro shops and online. My personal choice is to wear what I call Anti-Flauge. I own a pair of blue tiger stripe BDU paints that I wear with a Raven Alien Lair jersey (blue and green tie die pattern). I also have a pair of snow camo (regular woodland with white added to the pattern).

[Counterfeit]

Playing speedball or indoor paintball, camo would just make you look like a dork.

[Edited by Counterfeit on 02-02-2001 at 07:30 PM]

[Devil Man]

heh if i had camo that fits i wood wear it when playing with my friends in the woods.

[Nemessis]

I used to wear a mechanics suit to indoor :) now i wear a hockey jersey and my own specially made slider pants

[MuckRaker]

Going to the field tomorrow, got out my blue tigers, tye die Raven jersey ... hell, I might wear some purpel socks for luck! :eek:

[ElectricHead]

Not Camo! i dont think camo gives you much of an advantage, i played a game with no camo and the other guys had it and i had no problem sneaking up on them-and they werent too hard to spot either

[MuckRaker]

I think a lot of players think they have to have camo because they're playing in the woods. The main thing is comfort. and of course, camos are baggy and comfortable. I really don't think they'll help you be stealthy. That's something that comes in time. And that's why I wear "Anti-Flauge." It freaks some people out when I wear my blue tigers, but in the shadows, they're just as good as any woodland pattern.

[ElectricHead]

I agree, most people sneak in the shadows but basically any color looks black or very darkk in shade. Might as well just where anything not white, white is the worst, it just like shines...

[MuckRaker]

Yeah Electric, but those folks in their white suits look so purty after you light them up.

[ElectricHead]

lol yeah... kinda like a rainbow...

[ToiletSiphon]

Cammo are good if you don't move, because human eye has more difficulty to see colors than movement. A ghillie suit like the one I use is very good if you don't move at all. It really help you to blend into your surroundings, but I would not wear it to play speedball! I think that if you play in the woods, wear cammo, and if you play speedball, wear a jersey. One of the guys playing wiht me has a bright red diablo jersey. He often get eliminated first (even if he have a shocker) because we can see him so easily from far away.

[Counterfeit]

I take it you only lug a huge gillie suit aroung for senario games?

[MuckRaker]

I did pretty good in my blue tigers and tie dye today. the only game I was eliminated quickly in was a speedball game. Did very good in the woods games. Too, a lot of it depends on the quality of the players you have backing you up. If you have teammates who you can work with and trust, then it doesn't matter if you're wearing a Neon Green jumpsuit.

[TLplus84]

I have a ghillie too. I made this thing and HOLY CRAP it's heavy...it's REALLY good camo though...i wouldn't recommend it for speedball...in scenarios though...i love to wear the ghillie...i've had a whole "platoon" walk 3 feet in front of me without spotting me...i mean i got everything...Goggle fluage, a separate lens with a goggle skin, Ghillie suit, mini ghillie for the gun, and ghillie hat. VERY useful in Big games and scenarios..use it for Speedball....then consider yourself an idiot..hehe

[MuckRaker]

TL, what did you make it out of, and how much did it cost to put it together?

[ElectricHead]

Ooooh i just scored! i found an old green painters suit in a closet at my house, its my new paintball suit and man does it rock! its heavy, ugly, and it stinks too! i couldnt have found anything better, too bad i wont be able to test it on the field for quite a while

[MuckRaker]

Electric, you should get some pieces/parts of plastic plants and liberally apply them to the suit ... Cheap Man's Ghillie. :eek:

[TLplus84]

My dad is an auto mechanic, so he had these old black mechanic's coveralls, so i just used that as a base. Then i went to my local fabric store (jo ann fabrics and crafts) and bought a ****LOAD of burlap and Rit dye. I bought Dark green, brown, and tan dyes. Then i cut the strips of burlap into like strips an inch wide and 10-12 inches long. I randomly died and epoxie'd the strips onto the mechanic's suit, going fromt he legs up. I placed the strips 2-4 inches above the one below so they would hang over and show no gaps. it took me a couple days to do, but it was worth it. didnt' cost me that much. i bought about 10 bux of burlap cuz it was on sale, and the rit dye was sumthin like 3 dollars a thingy..i thihk that was on sale too..oh i almost forgot..for my goggles..i just use goggleflauge and a lens with goggle skinz...it works nice!

[elTwitcho]

I wear red black and white camo (you know that pattern... the one that couldnt blend in anywhere on the planet... maybe if you're playing paintball in a volcano) just for the reason it's comfortable and it looks cool. All I really play is indoor most of the time because the weather just plain sucks in canada 8 months a year, so Camo isnt an issue. I do like however, that the camo pattern i use stands out and people take notice of me before the game starts, what does this mean? it means that since going over to the red and white camo I havent been taken out by my own team a single time, and that is just plain sweet. Much better than having my teamates sort through a mess of guys in green or black looking for a tiny armband and taking out half their team in the process. Stand out and you wont get any problems with friendly fire :) most useful camo I've ever heard of, hehe

[_Law]

I just saw a sheet of camo burlap at walmart , and I was thinking of makin a poncho type thingie out of it. What do you guys think? All I know is that it would bounce balls pretty good, but I may have trouble shouldering my gun.

[MuckRaker]

I was just checking out the Raven site and saw their new Primal jerseys ... one's grayish-white and black, would go real well with my white woodland camos (green, brown, black and white). It will be mine very soon ... Long live Anti-Flauge.

[ElectricHead]

hey im sorry but i dont know what a ghillie is? what did you say i should do muck? i dont quit understand

[MuckRaker]

A ghillie suit is one of those suits that looks like a large pile of moss. They're used by snipers in the Armed forces, they totally blend with the background because they are not like normal camos that just have a patter, these things are ... well, like I said, look like a pile of moss or underbrush.

I was saying that you should take some pieces from plastic plants, like branches and leaves, and stick them on your mechanics suit to make a "Poor Man's" ghillie suit. It was just a Joke man. :)

[MereMoth]

I don't think cammo is all that important because I see people in cammo almost as easy as I would see pink clowns running around on my field. Yeah, it helps blend in a little...a little. The only type of cammo that works really well is a ghille suit, but who would want to be in one of those things?

[ElectricHead]

lol... i thought you said pieces off plastic pants, thats what confused me, hey how much are ghillie suits? i think that would be cool

[TLplus84]

it's a waste if you buy one. Just read the post i wrote above and it'll tell you how to make one. Just get a cheap pair of coveralls for a base. oh and don't use it during just regular play..use during scenario games

[MuckRaker]

yeah TL, you'd look like a freak running through a speedball field in your Ghillie, unless of course, you found a way to make it look like a bunker ... Now that sounds like something from a bad Monty Python skit.

[TLplus84]

LOL "maybe i can look like a bunker...that'll keep me in the game.." hahaha

[PBSouLjAh]

yea, and then people run behind you....and u get 50balls a second on you. shoot....i thought ghillie suits werent allowed cuz......HOW DA HECK DOES PAINT BREAK ON GHILLIE SUITS?!? its like.....a huge cushioN!!!!

[TLplus84]

you'd be surprised...lol i had a harness on underneath mine once...and i was stalking a squad(scenario game) and i accidentally broke a twig...well all hell broke loose and i was running away but some guy with dead on accuracy nailed me in the butt where my pack was.

[MuckRaker]

TL, do you get a lot of bounces off your Ghillie?

[TLplus84]

when i get spotted, which is't often..but when i do..yeah i do...which is a good thing. but if htey hit my canteen or my pack, they break. on a side note..some guy at this scenario game i went to came with an Infrared monocular..so he spotted me by my heat sig. He was an Army ranger and his monocular was standard army issue..man...i want one..
anywayz..yeah i do get bounces if they arent' hit on my canteen or harness.

[MuckRaker]

Yeah, I was reading something on WARPIG about scenario games, guys who bring night vision goggles (which are expensive and delicate.) I guess the thing is, do they fit them over their masks or do they take their masks off to use them. It seems that they got hit they'd break.

I want to hit a scenario game, but I don't have all that "fancy" equipment.

[PB ninja]

Using an infrared monocular is just plain unfair. Night vision maybe because all it does is intensify ambient light but you could see someone almost anywhere wiht heat vision and that's just crazy. Anyway, on the subject of camo I really don't think it has much of an advantage if you plan on moving at all. Once you move it doesn't matter what your wearing, you become visible. Despite that I play with some guys who are camo crazy, doing things like covering their gun with camo duct tape and wearing a pair of green wool gloves over their armor back gloves because everyone knows how much those black gloves stand out right? But hey, if camo makes you confident then go with it.

[Richy_C]

But hey thats what senario games are all about, senarios, i really want to go to a wayne dolack one

[TLplus84]

yeah that's what scenario is all about. I mean true it's unfair..but so is a pump going up against a semi in the same game.

[Richy_C]

not ifit's a ca cf phantom vs be :-)

[MuckRaker]

yeah, PB, you're right about people getting camo crazy ... camo pattern covers on their hoppers and tanks ... But they're black alreay, right? That's why my philosophy is to wear Anti-Flauge ... It's like a protest against regular camos. Shoot my blue tigers if you dare!!

[ElectricHead]

anti-flauge is great but i would prefer a ghillie for a big game... how much to ghillies cost?

[Richy_C]

hey is anti flauge like colorful camo?

[ElectricHead]

anti-flauge is like colorful. period. just listen to the name... against camo basically

[TLplus84]

Electrichead i made my own ghillie suit. It cost me a total of around 20 bucks for the supplies excluding the coveralls.

[ElectricHead]

how did you do it? does it work good?

[TLplus84]

yeah man~! when i'm spotted, thats cuz i moved at a wrong time. Look a couple posts above me, there's a rough description i wrote. Or go to this link:

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/camouflage/ghillie.shtml

hope this helps.

[ElectricHead]

hey thanks alot!

to anyone who has a ghillie: could you post a pic? i gotta see if i get mine right. :)

[elTwitcho]

Heh, anti-flauge, I think that's what I'll start callin mine too. That and just about everyone wears camo, stand out people, be exciting!

[TLplus84]

i'd post a pic but i don't have a digital camera or a scanner yet. When i get my digital camera, i'll post it up...but i haveto tell you that EVERY ghillie looks different, it's like fingerprints.

[MuckRaker]

Camo only works in speed ball if it has a bunker pattern. Camo in the woods isn't good, especially during a 15 minute rec game cause you're moving too much trying to get in a good position. As i've posted before, my anti-flauge is a pair of blue tiger stripes and a Raven Lair tye die jersey. they're dark, but they ain't green. I think it freaks out some of the players who show up in their woodlands or real tree cause they're thinking "who's this freak." But what it comes down to is how well you play the game, not what you're wearing.

[TLplus84]

i had a post saying that. I think ghillies are made only for Big games nd scenarios. That's the only times that i use my ghillie for.

[MuckRaker]

Ya know what they say, TL, imitation is the sincerist form of flattery.

actually, I posted something like that too, on a different thread I think ... but who's keeping score?

[ElectricHead]

loli know what you guys mean, but all we do is outlaw ball around here, ive never even been to a real field before, but we are gonna do this game where 2 people go out and hide, then like 8 people go and try to get them, and for that game i think ill want a ghillie... plus if a big game does roll my way at least ill be prepared

[TLplus84]

hrmm...for that kind of game..i would use a ghillie. It might last a LONG time if you use one too...if you make a ghillie right with the correct colors and all..you will blend in PREFECTLY..i've had an opponent walk within 2 feet of me...if something like hat happens..DONT MOVE...the human eye is very reactive to sudden movements

[ElectricHead]

rit dye... where can i get it??

[TLplus84]

your local arts and crafts store shcoul have them. it should be cheap.

[ElectricHead]

do they come in individual colors or do you mix your own colours?

[TLplus84]

mine came in individual colors. i donno about other dyes thogh.

[ElectricHead]

where do you guys live and what kind of greens do you use, whst id your green to brown ratio? did you leave any the regular color? (i wanna make mine good, no room for mistakes) :)

[MuckRaker]

Hey electric, is it snowing where you live ... if so you might not want to overlook blending some white into your color scheme.

[ElectricHead]

i live in western washington, never snow, just rain rain rain rain rain, oh then once that stops, we get a rain storm
ill probably never play on a sunny day till like june, otherwise its either overcast or rain

[MuckRaker]

How do you keep the paintballs from getting wet, or the humidity from swelling them up. Sounds like a real Pain. Of course, once May rolls around it'll start raining like crazy here.

[ElectricHead]

i dont worry about all that humidity ****, i just shoot the damn gun, if it hits, yay, if it misses, shoot again. :P

[TLplus84]

to someones question, my ghillie has a little more green than brown. It's just barely enough to notice. I usually play in woods, so it's a perfect mix.

[TLplus84]

wow...this thread is really popular...almost as popular as taht thread in teh non paintball section"who is the hottest"...and we all know that its Jessica ALba

[ElectricHead]

what kind of trees do you have around yah tl? do they sell rit in colors like evergreen?

[TLplus84]

i did a mix of tan, dark brown, and a dark green. There's alot of different trees around in Maryland, so i chose a darker shade of green. Also i mixed in the browns so that when i crouch, i look like a bush or foliage on the ground.

[ElectricHead]

did you put more browns toward the base of your suit?(your feet)

[TLplus84]

nope i evenly distributed everything so that it won't look wierd if i lay down on the ground. If i did put more brown at the bottom, then it would look suspicious. If i crouch, then it looks like i have foliage around the "bush" i've created.

[MuckRaker]

Yeah, blindman started a hot thread, but I haven't seen him posting on it much ...

There's a lot of hardwoods here, and Palmetto scrub ... like palm trees with sharp pointy fronds ... I've thought about cutting some and strapping them to my body so i look like a short palm tree ... ;)

[TLplus84]

actually i do that to my ghillie. It helps alot. When you have a ghillie suit, it helps to tie little branches and foliage to the burlap strips. during summer, you'll look like a wierd tree of some sort..and in fall/winter you'll look like a tree in hybernation.

[MuckRaker]

TL, you've got this camo thing down to a science ... how long to you "lie in wait" during a scenario game. This may sound like I'm being a SmartA**, but what do you do if ya gotta take a leak? You don't want to blow your cover.

[TLplus84]

if i spring a leak...i haul ***...but if i'm fine..i can sit at one spot for an hour...without being tired or bored...my dad was in the Korean Army and he taught me all this stuff like patience and stealth...so in a big game/scenario game i can lay down by a crucial path for hours. It takes training but it's worth it.

[TLplus84]

oh Muck LOL yeah i do have this down to science. I figured that an evenly balanced ghillie(in color) would give me the best cover in all positions. Smart right? naw you don't sound like a smartass....like i said..if i spring a leak..i get out of there FAST so noone on the opposition knows that i have a ghilllie...or if i do spring a leak..i turn off my tank(on/off valve)

[_Law]

About all the dye and stuff: Walmart sells 54" x 12' sheets of burlap for about 10-15 dollars, it may cost more than dying it, but it sure would save some time.

[MuckRaker]

TL, you may have already posted this, but it's a long thread and hard on these old eyes ;) but how long and how wide are the individual strips?

[ElectricHead]

yeah but i dont want to buy like 3 different rolls for my 3 different colour... ill just dye it... TL did you make yours to the specifications on warpig?

[_Law]

the sheets at walmart are camo patterned, I forgot to mention that in my post

[BLiNDMAN]

muck i know i haven't posted much... but i've been in here everyday to hear what u guys got to say.. glad i came up with something ppl are interested in :)

[ElectricHead]

well thing is my dad, as a beekeeper, has tons of burlap that i can use so i think ill just go with the dye

[Edited by ElectricHead on 01-13-2001 at 08:45 PM]

[TLplus84]

nope..i just bought what i think would go best with my surroundings. I recommend at least 2 colors.

[TLplus84]

the strips on my ghillie are 8-12 inches long and around 2 inches wide. I vary the size of the strips to break up my human figure more.

[MuckRaker]

Didn't mean any slight to you Blind, just wanted to thank you for opening up such a hot topic ... This has got to be the most active thread on on the site.

TL ... when you say you vary the size of the strips, say on one row, you've got a some five inch strips, a couple of seven inch, maybe a 12 inche in there here and there .... You think you could post a photo of it so we could see what you're talking about?

Also, you might want to copy your instructions on making a ghillie into the Rec forum, for those scenario buffs who are looking for this kind of info.

[TLplus84]

If i could post my ghillie on this site..i would but i got no scanner, digital camera, or any other means of posting it up on here...i'm gonna buy a digital camera in a week or two and i'll post it up~
Yeah i'll post the instructinos on how to make one up on the Rec forum

[ElectricHead]

i found a pic of a ghillie that kind of represents the design we are talking about... want me to post it>?

[TLplus84]

yeah do it. I wanna see if it comes close to my ghillie or not.

[ElectricHead]

now this is a really nice one in my opinion, probably better than anyone i know could make, it was just the only one i could find that utilized burlap...
http://www.pbreview.com/fpics/ElectricHead011301221815sniper5.gif

[TLplus84]

mine is similar to that..but thicker. There is burlap everywhere and i look like "The Swamp THing" hehe...yeah that's how a Ghillie should turn out like. It depends how the ghillie suit turns out. Some have little burlap on it and some have alot. The amount that you put on makes a difference.

[TLplus84]

mine is similar to that..but thicker. There is burlap everywhere and i look like "The Swamp THing" hehe...yeah that's how a Ghillie should turn out like. It depends how the ghillie suit turns out. Some have little burlap on it and some have alot. The amount that you put on makes a difference. ALso, mobility becomes an issue..these things are pretty heavy when you put so much burlap on. So you need to get a delicate balance between stealth and mobility. I try not to move too much with mine but i can still haul butt if i have to...although it will take ALOT out of me. Hope that helped :)

[TLplus84]

mine is similar to that..but thicker. There is burlap everywhere and i look like "The Swamp THing" hehe...yeah that's how a Ghillie should turn out like. It depends how the ghillie suit turns out. Some have little burlap on it and some have alot. The amount that you put on makes a difference. ALso, mobility becomes an issue..these things are pretty heavy when you put so much burlap on. So you need to get a delicate balance between stealth and mobility. I try not to move too much with mine but i can still haul butt if i have to...although it will take ALOT out of me. I think my suit comes in close to 10 pounds..maybe 7 lbs. Hope that helped :)

[TLplus84]

why did my post come up twice?

[ElectricHead]

yeah, it looks like this guy used something besides burlap... do they work really well? do they look cool? i wish someone would get up a pic of a home made one

[TLplus84]

they work REALLY WELL. I've had many incidents where people came so close that i just stood up and touch them out.hehe but yeah..i REALLy want to show off my ghillie..but no way of doing it..I'll get it up on the forums ASAP.

[ElectricHead]

once i get my ghillie made ill post it and some gun pics

[TLplus84]

wow....this thread is REALLY REALLY getting popular..close to 100 posts...good going guys...but just remember..i'm not this nice in paintball games.. GRRRRR :P

[ElectricHead]

oh yeah i forgot, how long did it take for you guys to make your ghillies?

[TLplus84]

mine took me close to 3 days doing all the cutting, dyeing, glueing, and drying. it's a pain in the *** but its worth it.

[ElectricHead]

GLUEING??? i thought you sewed em on!

[TLplus84]

well..i used a really hard Epoxy. its preference. You can either Epoxy them on or sew them on. Ithink Epoxy is stronger and SO much faster.taht and you eliminate the risk of stabbing yourself..LOL

[ElectricHead]

hmmm two more questions (for now) how comfortable is it with using epoxy and how far between layers down did you go?

[TLplus84]

hrmm it's pretty comfy..i mean it's not like a cozy bed but i can stay in it for a couple of hours. HRmm...the best way to put this is....the top of one strip is about 2-4 inches below the top of the strip on top of it. That's why my ghillie is so thick. You can space it out a little more so that it's not as heavy. Just make sure that the burlap strip overlaps the one below, even if it is just one inch. But i would recommend about a 5-8inch space between two tops of burlap strips if you don't want it to0 thick.

[TLplus84]

WHOOO~~~ this is officially the 100th post..just thought you guys wuold like to know..

[ElectricHead]

well i think ill go with about a 3 inch gap, you know what i say (as of now)... the thicker the better!!


i think for threads with over 100 posts there should be like a super hot thread image!! like a volcano erupting!

[TLplus84]

hey Electric the 7th page is ALl you and ME~! LOL

[ElectricHead]

well i suppose we have just got alot of stuff to say...

[TLplus84]

oh by the way Electric don't measure the 3 inches. YOu want a variation because you don't want any sort of line in a ghillie suit. Remember, in nature there are no straight lines. So variate the space that you use. just thought that would help.

[ElectricHead]

there are straight lines in nature, they just arent natural :P

[TLplus84]

Natural is from the root nature. When you say "There are straight lines in nature, they're just not natural", you are contradicting yourself.....hehe anyawyz..still vary the gap that you use.

[ElectricHead]

sorry buddy i was just making a joke, as to say i could cut a natural tree in a straight line

[TLplus84]

OHHH hahaha i just got that... :P

[ElectricHead]

yeah yeah shut up you jerk, you are mad because i got the chops to be a pro commedian

[TLplus84]

no need to get emotional....hehe :P

[ElectricHead]

well it seems we have said everything there is to say about ghillies.... death to the mostactive thread ever... *sniffs*

[Devil Man]

man i hate to see this come to an end i love rading all the posts that come on it :)

[TLplus84]

:( friends and family of this thread...we are gathered here to say farewell to this shortlived life. It has helped us all.....hehe

[MuckRaker]

The camo thread can't end, say it ain't so, say it ....


thanks for all the great info, TL, they should put this thread in the Forum Hall of Fame.

[ElectricHead]

ill say it for yah... the camo thread cant end... ill bring it back up to the top when i get my ghillie made and post some pics

[Richy_C]

holy ****! can't u guyz just call eachother? woah man

[TLplus84]

haha we're just keeping the longest thread on this forum alive...even this post is not about camo...oh wait
Camo is useless in speedball but useful in scenarios.
See? we're keepint alive.

[MuckRaker]

That's right, we must make an EXTRA effot to say "paintball" and "camo" in any message posted here, else Counterfeit might delete the post and chastise us for being off topic.

[Counterfeit]

Oh come on I am not that bad am I? ......
... I wait I am! Now were is that delete button? :D

[MuckRaker]

Well, in PAINTBALL, having good CAMO is essential ...

HA ... got ya man, this is a delete proof message!! :eek:

Now I can move on to a topic I'm sure you're all interested in ... Finding a Mutual Fund that will provide the highest yield to investment ratio while remaining in a tax deferred account. Any takers??? ;)

[Counterfeit]

If you ever make that into I topic I will not only delete it I will have you banned!!! j/k :)

[MuckRaker]

But you see, Counter, once you've gained about 120 percent of you're investment, you can withdraw a nominal amount without paying taxes on it and use that money to purchase PAINTBALL EQUIPMENT, or you could invest some of that money in Proppers Inc., one of the largest manufacturers of CAMOFLAUGE clothing for the United States military.

;) Ewww, I'm good!! ;)

[Edited by Counterfeit on 01-14-2001 at 08:01 PM]

[ElectricHead]

lol... hey no fair editing other people posts counter!

[MuckRaker]

Yeah ... it would seem that Counter is abusing his Moderator Power by editing a legitimate discussino of PAINTBALL and CAMOFLAUGE. :eek:

[TLplus84]

uhh...Mutual funds? i tried that...my monthly gain was 10 cents......big woopteedo...RAVENS WON~! RAVENS WON~!! HAHAHA WE DOMINATED OAKLAND~! WRAAAA~!!!

[Counterfeit]

I didn't change anything in your post Muck. I only added. That is within my powers. i can add into anyone's post as long as I don't change anything and put my name next to it.

[MuckRaker]

That may be true, Counter, but do your powers extend to adding, shall we say, insulting or derogatory remarks ... Hmmm, we'll have to ponder this after I tell you how PAINTBALL AND CAMOFLAUGE are actually related to ancient Buddhist rituals!!! :eek:

[Counterfeit]

Muck, stop it now!

I will not stand for personal attacks here. Sorry if you did not like me wraning you to stay on topic by placing it onto you post, but please do not insult me by attacking me as the MOD GOD.

[Edited by Counterfeit on 01-14-2001 at 08:06 PM]

[MuckRaker]

C'mon man, Don't get all uppity ... :) :) (notice I've used all the appropriate Smilies in these posts.)

But back to PAINTBALL AND CAMO ... In the rain forests of Borneo ...

[ElectricHead]

lol... my parents have a mutual fund.. they have made like 40,000 dollars off of it! thats enough to supply one with PAINTBALLS and CAMO for years!

[TLplus84]

hrmm...maybe i shouldve had more than 200 in the funds...anywayz back to CAMO~! i am now to be called Professor Camo..LOL j/k..call me that i'll introduce you to my brand new baseball bat collection...haha :P

[MuckRaker]

yes, well, I was walking down the street in my CAMOS when all of a sudden it started raining. Not any ordinary rain, but these big freakin PAINTBALLS. Well, you can imagine my dismay when this old lady waiting to get on the bus called me out and told me to proceed to the nearest safety zone!!

:eek:

[TLplus84]

haha "CODE RED INCOMING PAINTBALLS~!~! AHHH~!!!"

[ElectricHead]

Lucky for me i was wearing my new CAMO ghille suit, which distorts my outline, so i was virtually invisible to the falling PAINTBALLS

[MuckRaker]

I just hope the Godless Commies haven't developed that new Intercontinental Ballistic PAINTBALL Warhead. It would render our CAMO useless.

[ElectricHead]

well thats when my portable bomb shelter comes in handy! want me to post some pics and info on how to build one of those? you can make em ghillie too!

[MuckRaker]

LOL Electric, yeah, it'd be invisible and thus thwart the ICBM PAINTBALL Warhead. :eek:

[ElectricHead]

AND it would be virtually impervious to the raining paintballs! safety for all!!! (that is all that want to pay me 3 million dollars to make them one of these bomb shelters :P)

[MuckRaker]

You dirty Capitalists ... Wait, that's off topic, isn't it???? :eek:

[TLplus84]

haha yeah man let's all carry around bomb shelters :O wow..this thread has slowly slowly faded from Camo to Politics...dang..politics is corrupting everything..

[ElectricHead]

bah... everything ends up being politics in the end....

[TLplus84]

even hotdogs?

[ElectricHead]

yes, because hot dogs are made of donkeys and elephants, oops here we are back to politics

[MuckRaker]

Careful, (PAINTBALL) you know that hot dogs, donkeys, (CAMO) and elephants have nothing to do (GHILLIE SUIT) with the topic of this thread. (WOODLAND PATTERN) You wouldn't want anyone to edit it, would you? (PAINTBALL).

[TLplus84]

you're right..(Ghillie suit) maybe we shouldn't be talking about politics(sniping tactics) or hotdogs(CAMO) in this thread..LOL

[BLiNDMAN]

i must say sum of u guys are pretty funny in this camo thread... im glad u guys enjoyed it as much as i did... oh yeah.. should i get a reward??? haha :)

[TLplus84]

HEY it's the guy tht originally started the most successful thread in PBbreview history~ hehe yeah...we just try to keep it alive by useless comennts like these..(camo gilllie suit paintbal)

[ElectricHead]

sure blind... you deserve many great awards.... back to ghillie... TL my dad says glue wont work, i got Goop instead of epoxy, he says im gonna have to sew it, he thinks if it gets caught on something it will rip off :(

[TLplus84]

hrmm..yeah i guess that makes sense...i have had incidents where burlap has ripped off from getting snagged...i guess i'll reinforce my ghillie with sewing...CRAP i can't sew if my life depended on it...........

[Richy_C]

does counter not like paintball and camo together? Because i enjoy outor PAINTBALL in my PAINTBALL CAMMIES! lol

[ElectricHead]

think it would be easier if i did it initially with glue then sewed it??

[TLplus84]

yeah...but i guess that if you sew it on..it'll last longer. I'm going to go and reinforce the burlap by sewing it.

[MuckRaker]

TL, Electric, did y'all look at The Flash's post in the Rec Forum. He's got a good idea on macking a ghillie that doesn't require glue or sewing.

Richy (GHILLIE SUIT) you have to make sure that you (FLANKING BUNKER) remain on topic (AUTOCOCKER) else some moderators (PMI PREMIUM PAINTBALLS) might edit, delete or move (RAVEN PRIMAL JERSEY) your posts. :p :) :eek:

Also make sure you use all appropriate Smilies in your posts so people know you're not POd at them. ;)

[TLplus84]

yeah i read it..i read somewhere that that is another way..but i like my way better.

[Devil Man]

but of course we all the like the way we do things the best :)

[ElectricHead]

i heard that method from our house cleaner just this morning, but no army surplus stores around here... plus im almost ready to glue now! just gotta chop the burlap. it seems ill be spending forever on this sense ill have to reinforce the glue with stitching.. :(

[MuckRaker]

Electric, don't glue it, just sew it. Push needle through fabric, pull thread through, repeat until you're fingers bleed. Just remember, any project that is worth the effort is worth spending time on. (Damn, I'm sounding too fatherly today :p )

[Ronin]

why cant you just use staples? like quality ones, not cheep office ones

[Freakazoid]

Hmm one of the sites (i think http://www.paintballgods.com) suggests using dental floss for sewing the burlap on...sounds good to me, it's way stronger than any other thread

[MuckRaker]

Dental Floss, that's a new one to me ... But you might even try a heavy fishing like 100 or 200 test.

[TLplus84]

hrmm..fishing line...never thought about that..cool idea..i think tha'ts what i'm gonna use to sew the 100000000 strands of burlap that are on my ghillie...

[ElectricHead]

i dont know what ill use... i want to get my picture up ASAP thats why im gonna glue it first... plus the glue will keep the tops from fraying... i think for an added touch im going to tie some twine on to my suit... like dead grass

[TLplus84]

i donno...you're gonna be playing inthe middle of the woods and i don't think there's dead grass...if you use twine..use DARk twine so it looks like twigs..also you want some burlap to fray so that it breaks up your outline better.

[ElectricHead]

also i was considering making a ghillie hat... what kind of hat should i use as the base?? Oh and TL... does your ghillie have the arms too?? just curious, mine is a full body suit

[ElectricHead]

what i was saying was you dont want it to fray and come undone from my stitching... the glue will keep that from happening

[TLplus84]

ahhhh ic ic thanx for clarifying that

[MuckRaker]

Electric, you should get one of those full brim military style hats ... you know the ones I'm talking about, I think they're also called bush hats.

[ElectricHead]

i dont think a hat will be needed now that i think about it, i got an olive mask anyway...

[MuckRaker]

but for the full affect, you dont' want to have that suit breaking up your form and hiding you well, and then have your head sticking up on top of it like a lost ghost or something. The point of the suit is to lie in wait for your prey. get a hat, cover yer head.

[ElectricHead]

hmmm ok... i wonder if a beanie would work... i dont wanna go buy anything else at this point.... thing is im not even sure if ive got enough burlap for the suit! i used 3 standard burlap sacks, should that be enough?

[Richy_C]

Get goggleflauge and goggle skinz (camo) and u will move like an albino through a white building
Hey i got a joke....no, that ones dirty
ok here we g......no, wait that ones dirty to, damn

[MuckRaker]

Electric, I'm sure any hat you have around will work fine, ya just gotta attach some strips to it.

[TLplus84]

that's what i use..goggleflauge and Goggle skins. They work great and they scare the hell out of newbies..LOL

[ElectricHead]

Hmmm... i was considering just cutting off the arms of my suit, otherwise i might not have enough burlap to do the whole suit and the hat... Oh, when i put up my pics, do you want some pics of like me making it and ****

[TLplus84]

actually, a hat isn't a bad idea....i was just so sick of cutting and glueing burlap to stuff i would've hurled if i saw another yard of burlap....:P

[ElectricHead]

augh poor me, im going to have to dye a bunch more burlap... apparently 3 burlap sacks isnt enough... :(

[TLplus84]

you're gonna need ALOT more than that man...try like 10 burlap sacks... :eek:

[paintballer]

I think you should go with camo because I just guess you blend in with the trees better

[TLplus84]

not really....if you know how to move in a ghillie suit..you "become" nature...hehe

[ElectricHead]

yeah im dying three more sacks tonight :) im almost positive it will be enough.... oh and a question.. does your ghille have the arms or is it overalls?? did you ghillie the inside of the legs?

[TLplus84]

yeah my ghillie has arms..they werent' overalls..they were Coveralls..and why would you ghillie the inside of your legs? The strips on the bottom JUST pass my feet, so when i'm crouched or scrunched in a sniper position, my feet are covered.

[ElectricHead]

well i need to cover the inside area cause the suit is blue... i think im being overcautious but it is hard to keep it consistant.... i made the burlap go like 6 inches past my feet on accident... i am goung to trim it once i finish with the legs

[TLplus84]

make it to suit your needs and tastes..rememebr a ghillie suit isn't like a photocopy of another ghillie..they are all different..and that's good..

[ElectricHead]

well that shouldnt be too hard since ive never seen an all burlap ghillie suit before any way

[TLplus84]

and the good thing is you can add or take off burlap if you don't like what the end product is.

[ElectricHead]

well so far it is looking really good... oh yeah did you guys want pics of like as im making it or just a few of when its done?

[TLplus84]

post some while you're making it so we can critise you for the CRAPPY JOB YOUR DOING...LOL j/k j/k yeah post some up while you're making it so people who are interested can have a visual of some of the steps and proceduers..also we can give hints and tips.

[ElectricHead]

yeah ok but im going to have to post all the pics at once... thats gonna kind of suck but oh well, im gonna use a bunck of film and get some pics of my gun the suit the hat and it all on and ****

[TLplus84]

salll good..that way we can have like a slow motion film thing goin on...pic one: base:Coverall
pic 2:Electrichead dyes teh burlap
pic 3:Electrichead glues burlap to the coverall
pic 4:Electrichead accidentally glues finger to forhead
pic 5:Electrichead accidentally glues camera to butt

and so on and so forth...hehehe :D

[Freakazoid]

LOL electrichead glues camera to butt..

[ElectricHead]

ill try and get them just in that order

[TLplus84]

hahha cool cool...just make sure you have some pants on when you take that picture of the butt... :eek:

[ElectricHead]

yeah ok... most of the pictures will be of it hanging up though.. ill only have one with me wearing it, and ill be wearing the hat and may mask and the suit

[TLplus84]

sounds good..get the pics up ASAP man..

[ElectricHead]

im trying im trying... first i gotta make the suit though and tonight i ran out of goop... ill have them up within a week from now, but no promises

[TLplus84]

no need to rush man..take your time..i'm just eager to see how the ghillie turns out in relation to mine:)

[ElectricHead]

so far its looking pretty cool, i can put it on and it covers my shoes comletely, it makes my legs look kinda like shaggy bushes

[TLplus84]

hahaha that's liket he exact same thing i thought when i was about half done...my mom thought i was insane..walking around with coveralls half covered in Burlap..LOL

[ElectricHead]

bah, bad news all, due to a nasty case of the flue those pics will be delayed a while.. :(

[BLiNDMAN]

well this is post 200... what do u guys say we retire this thread???

[ElectricHead]

What are you talking about? you want to retire the most active thread in history??

[BLiNDMAN]

haha... its up to u guys..

[TLplus84]

THE THREAD iS STILL ALIVE~! the most active thread in this whole forum is still alive. wow..anywayz..yeah...Electrichead how is that ghillie coming along?

[Eladamri]

Tonight i was grocery shoping at walmart and decided to go check out the clearance items, I missed out on all the camo cloths for 5 bucks a piece (still mad about that, someone came in and bought every single piece, 3 shopping carts full) but i found a camo nylon head net there for 3 bucks. It fits perfectly over my xfire goggles and can be quickly pulled off for cleaning. Now i just need to get started on the rest of my ghillie. I was planning on bribing my wife to sew all the strips on but gluing sounds so much easier. How does the glue hold up over time though? Can you handwash it and not ruin the suit?

[Brazen]

personally i dont like camo

[TLplus84]

i usually don't wear camo unless it's a scenario game. All the other times i wear my green pants and Dye jersey.

[Predator2]

In the woods defenitely go w/ the camo and in a speedball game i personally don't think that there is a big difference in what you where b/c people always know where you are.

[TLplus84]

unless you dress up like a big bunker :P..haha you'd still get shot at wouldn't you? LOL :D

[Counterfeit]

Originally posted by TLplus84
i usually don't wear camo unless it's a scenario game. All the other times i wear my green pants and Dye jersey.

Yeah I used to wear camo in woods games. But I move so much and just get right up front and into firefights, it just became kinda pointless.

[TLplus84]

when i play woods..it's pointless...what the hell ami gonna do with a 10 pound ghillie on me in 15 minutes right? I onhly wear camo when i play like 24 hour Wayne Dollack scenarios. And like I sed before..i usually wear my green pants and my Dye jersey.

[Boneyfreak]

In the woods or grassy areas camos = advantage. In speedball inside or open sun they're nice to wear because they are comfortable, especially at the crotch (for us well endowed :D ) Too many times i've had guys walk within 5 ft of me never seeing me till I tap'em out by hand or whisper them out (instead of giving em a fat cherry welt). Even in the woods with camos on its way easier to flank and often slowly direct frontal advance on the opp. team with camos on. My favorite tactic is to just lay down in some grassy area in the open and let em walk within ez shot because they are so busy looking at all the normal hiding spots like trees, shrubs, bunkers ect. they just walk right up on top of you.

[TLplus84]

i donno...15 minute games..you can't waste time..speedball either.you gotta get in there, get the good bunker, and start to get the push going...i dont think camo will help any there...

[Counterfeit]

Originally posted by TLplus84
i donno...15 minute games..you can't waste time..speedball either.you gotta get in there, get the good bunker, and start to get the push going...i dont think camo will help any there...
yeah i agree, I acually like them to see me. It is funnier to let them know who shot them :D

[TLplus84]

no man the greatest is to bunker someone..seeing their face when you pop up out of nowhere..it's SO great...LOL :P

[Richy_C]

who brought this back from the grave?

[elTwitcho]

Looks like one of those odd posts that bring themselves to the top for no reason

[simon woodstock]

i play in the woods, a dark green shirt and dark brown or dark blue pants work just aswell as any cammo.

[Ded]

i have to say tht camo is the best thing that could happen to rec ball in the woods. Some say that you don't have time to get a really good hiding place to take full advantage of it but it sure obscures you much better than a bright red jumpsuit does. Go play rec ball with something like that on and see how quick you get cornered and shot right in the face. I can usually get good hiding spots on frequented paths and have gotten many kills that way.

[TLplus84]

hehe lookie what i found :D:D:D the longest thread in PBreview :D

[MuckRaker]

You know, you really have to be a PBReview OG to remember this thread ... but don't worry, hopefully no one will spank you if you get a little OT here.

[Gogged ya]

Ah **** man!! Ive just read 9 pages AND I HAVENT SEEN ANY PICS OF ANY OF YOU GUYS SUITS :(...damn Electric get some pics :P

[BLiNDMAN]

OMG my thread is still alive??

[TLplus84]

LOL..i ressurected it :D:D

[ammoman]

camo I guess but...it matters where you play....:D

[ammoman]

wow I didnt notice how long this thread...was...well lets give a congradulations to BLiNDMAN and if you say lets retire this poll I have 1 word to say......

[ammoman]

:eek: :eek: NEVER :eek: :eek: !!!!!!!

[MuckRaker]

hmmm ... though we know not why, Electrichead has left us for parts unknown ... I hope he has a happy journey.

[ammoman]

Forever?........well I really dont care........:D

[NEO]

Camo, what could it hurt.

[axi0n]

More importantly than camo.. I wish there was some way to learn to move more silently...


We played in the woods last weekend and no matter how well you are concealed, when you move you couldn't help sounding like a charging bull snapping the dead twigs and leaves on the ground.

So even in full camo.. I could just sit and listen, hear a noise, locate the general direction, wait for some movement, get them in range and then let them have it...

Of course the same thing happened to me though when i was the one having to move about...

So I guess what I need is some kind of acoustic cancellation device, or boots of levitation...

Ax.

[Turtle]

as for camo.. no
my good friend and usual teamate in 2v2 or 2v3 (us having the disatvantage) can very easily get around not being seen without camo. i usually wear a black long sleeved shirt and some green cargo pants. the shirt is paper thin and very comfortable, the pants have cargo pockets. i pulled these out of my school wardrobe, they just happened to be camo-ish colors. but my friend usually wears whatever he put on in the morning to the field. blue jeans and a t-shirt to be specific. one day he wore a white t-shirt and some blue jean shorts, he was able to sneak up on me and surrender me and did the same to the other guy playing. with my black and green look i have been siting down cross-legged in a pine tree with my two opponents 10 feet away (too much brush for me to hit them). you dont need camo. although it can help, he wears desert camo when playing at a local field in games where he is severely outnumbered, and im looking into makeing a ghillie suit just so i can turn any pile of twigs into a concrete wall blocking vision.

[Turtle]

oh forgot to mention, to walk silently im bent over a little bit and i try to sort of bounce when i step on the ground. and i carefully pick where im putting my feet. the at first difficult part is walking putting your toe down first and then heel.

[NcicHit]

Originally posted by ToiletSiphon
Cammo are good if you don't move, because human eye has more difficulty to see colors than movement. A ghillie suit like the one I use is very good if you don't move at all. It really help you to blend into your surroundings, but I would not wear it to play speedball! I think that if you play in the woods, wear cammo, and if you play speedball, wear a jersey. One of the guys playing wiht me has a bright red diablo jersey. He often get eliminated first (even if he have a shocker) because we can see him so easily from far away.
Very good points.

[Guesswho?]

You have to wear camo, you dumb?

[sniper737]

Wheres the pics?I read 10 pages of the replys and no pics of home made ghillies try and get some up here props to blind for having the pbs most replied post

[BLiNDMAN]

wow this thread is still alive?

[DontKillWhitey]

Im getting some authentic Marine camos this week. Long live the camo thread!!

[Killers Are Quiet]

Originally posted by BLiNDMAN
wow this thread is still alive?

Understatement of the Year, folks:)

[Richy_C]

Originally posted by Guesswho?
You have to wear camo, you dumb?
If I read that right, you just stated that it is issentioal to wear camo to play paintball. Granted it helps not to be in a Ronald Mcdonald suit in a woods game, but much of painball is now played on speedball courts. For that camo is not. Camo will show you out like no other while standing next to a Sup air bunker. This is where jerseys come in. They are the modern day camo, but to fit into the crowd no less. They also keep you cool, and help with bounces, and let you look god doing it. I don't know whether I made a point or not there. What are we talking about?

[elTwitcho]

WHY WONT THIS DAMN THREAD DIE?????





I could have it arranged though, the thread may have an accident and close itself.... yes an accident indeed....

[Richy_C]

Fool! You think they won't notice all the rocksalt in the dead body? and you know they'll trace it to the only mod evil enough to use suptrogen. Leave them a detail report on how you did it why don't you?

;)

[Boge]

I don't wear camo because everyone else does. I like to look different than everyone else. I do where green, but not anything like anyone elses. Its also good because your teammates can identify you. It's bad because your opponents can identify you. All in all it evens out. It just keeps me from being one of the cookies from the same cut.

[sniper737]

Can anyone post a pic of there home made ghillie?come i want to see what a homemade one looks like!!!! post some

[Mecca13]

I think camo is important (unless your playing speedball). I was playing rec once and it was me some of my friends and my friends bro. It was three and four and my team had three. Now since this was my first game of paintball i was all decked out in camo and multi layers of shirts. I looked like that kid from the christmas story (for those of you who remember that movie). anyway, we set up a trap for them to come into. Me in the middle in the wide open green grass. My friends on either side of me. and they just start walking down the middle of the field. they get within 10 feet of me and still don't see me. So I pop up and yell surrender then my friend yells then my other friend and they didn't see any of us the whole time. It rocked.

[DraXsuS]

i only wear camo in a scenario game

[SilentDeath176]

I play in a t-shirt and shorts because i can take the pain.I wear them if im playing in woods or not.

[MuckRaker]

This is the Holy Grail of PBReview.com threads ... Long may it live.

[green_goblin]

This wont get beaten for a lonnnnnnng time, unless of course I decide to use my wit, and brains to think of the best thread name something original something like camo or not??? ah ha thats it, just add the third ??? oh yeh im amazing itll be ringing in the big posts muahahhahaha

[ZacT26]

i will wear camo not full camo but some when i play in the woods