Field Paint only, or not? [Archive]

Gibralter

02-01-2002, 04:28 PM

My field is field paint only and it is $8 for 100 paintballs, so 2,000 paintballs is $160. The funny part is that ten feet away is the pro shop and the exact paint in there is $40 a case. We definantly smuggle in paint. We have to buy the first 100. We never get caught because they don't pay attention, and they never clean the walls in the field, so they have like 15 different colors and you can't tell.

elTwitcho

02-01-2002, 04:29 PM

I can't find paint any cheaper than at my field since I get it through my sponsor there

ferret0123

02-01-2002, 04:44 PM

I fell hounored to have such a good deal at my feild
-free entry mon-sun
-free co2 and nitro fills
-free drinks
-free food sometimes

For all of this we are expected to buy there paint which is 500/$20
I personally do not I buy paint from the feild i get it of the net for $50 a case. I encourage you to do the same. Sneak in paint. Do pay more if you dont have to. Although is everybody does this the feild might go under so if the field is losing money and might close then buy there paint if not,,,DONT PAY MORE PLAY MORE!

Chad51

02-01-2002, 04:45 PM

I play outlaw instead of at my local field simply because the paint is twice as much! For 9 bucks you get 100 balls and I can go to a store and buy some for 8 bucks per 200 balls!

elTwitcho

02-01-2002, 05:04 PM

Hmmm, how can I put this...

You people who sneak your paint in because you don't want to pay field prices are a bunch of cheap f***ing freeloaders. Your field provides a place for you to play, pays insurance, hires referees, sometimes gives free air fills and you cheap sh*ts don't think you should pay them for that? If you guys get caught I don't think you should be removed from the field, I think you should be dragged out into the streets and caned :pissed:

pk3`

02-01-2002, 05:05 PM

5 cent balls at my friend (area 51) if you have membership.

twitch how much do you pay?

elTwitcho

02-01-2002, 05:08 PM

3 cents, also at area51 :D

zigger911

02-01-2002, 05:10 PM

my field sells marb's and diablo's for really cheap... they sell the marb's for 500 for 15 and diablos 500 for $10 very nice price...

wwhooper

02-01-2002, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by elTwitcho
Hmmm, how can I put this...

You people who sneak your paint in because you don't want to pay field prices are a bunch of cheap f***ing freeloaders. Your field provides a place for you to play, pays insurance, hires referees, sometimes gives free air fills and you cheap sh*ts don't think you should pay them for that? If you guys get caught I don't think you should be removed from the field, I think you should be dragged out into the streets and caned :pissed:
Right on! If the field can't make $$, it's gone

LordChaos

02-01-2002, 06:04 PM

When I refed, we kicked people out if we caught them shooting non-field paint (which we sold at the field and the pro shop for the same price if you bought in 1/2 case lots). If you wanted to use your own paint, you got the OK from the owners (or manager on the rare instances the owner wasn't there) and paid the fee. Then you were ok. otherwise... you didn't want to get caught. (At the outdoor field (yes, they had both), you could order just about any paint, and it was considered "field paint" then).

Chad51

02-01-2002, 06:04 PM

Well I don't sneak paint in I just don't play there. Well, I don't play there very much. I have 5 rec places to play in friends yards. We play with about 20 people from school. We get alot of nice games! Also it seems a little strange but just about everyone there uses a Tippy! All of them are set up differently though.

elTwitcho

02-01-2002, 06:08 PM

That's what I mean though. That's totally cool if you don't want to pay field prices so you buy paint online or wherever and do outlaw ball. Hell, if you do it safely, I think that's the best thing someone strapped for cash can do. But to steal from your local field owners (and that's what you're doing when you sneak paint in) is disgusting. People who do that are trash, and it's completely unfair to the field owners

Chad51

02-01-2002, 06:16 PM

Ya I would have to say I totally agree!

Elrond

02-01-2002, 06:36 PM

My local field charges $2 for field fee if you buy there paint approx $16 for 500 Marbs or Flash. But they sell cheaper paint also. They will let you bring your own paint and it'll cost you $7 bucks to get in. I think that either way is pretty cheap compared to a lot of places. I know one indoor place up in Michigan that charges $20 bucks to get in and you have to buy there paint which costs $22 bucks for 250 and get this $130 for 2000 rounds. I guess I can't complain because I'm gonna go up there to play soon. After all it is 4 stories inside.

harhar

02-01-2002, 06:37 PM

i think it is trash when field owners charge these outragous prices for paint

Gibralter

02-01-2002, 06:47 PM

i sort of agree with twitch, it is stealing. @ my field though, they won't go broke. The have tons of new players coming in buying their paint. I think though, that $160 for a case of paint is a little much. ($$ from my post above.) The thing is, that they sell the exact same paint in the pro shop, a mere 10 ft. away, and the price changes from $40 a case, to $160 a case. Maybe the difference is that if the paint travels a certain distance from the proshop, it changes into the better and more expensive paint.

Elrond

02-01-2002, 06:57 PM

The rattling of the paint in the cases from the move makes the paint coat the inside of the shells better and therefore they travel farther and with more accuracy. :laugh:

Gibralter

02-01-2002, 08:46 PM

If that is the case Elrond, then it must be some pretty bad, "non-field" paint. :P

LordChaos

02-01-2002, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by Gibralter
i sort of agree with twitch, it is stealing. @ my field though, they won't go broke. The have tons of new players coming in buying their paint. I think though, that $160 for a case of paint is a little much. ($$ from my post above.) The thing is, that they sell the exact same paint in the pro shop, a mere 10 ft. away, and the price changes from $40 a case, to $160 a case. Maybe the difference is that if the paint travels a certain distance from the proshop, it changes into the better and more expensive paint.

Actualy, it most likely has to do with sorting and packaging the paint. If you buy a case 100 rounds at a time, it's going to be much more expensive then if you just by the entire case at the begining.

Ed' E

02-01-2002, 11:21 PM

at S.C. Village and Jungle Island (the two nearest fields to me)
they charge like mandatory 20 bucks entrance (for all day play)but that's it
everything else u can bring from home
thay do sell paint at a slightly more expensive price than at stores but that's only for dumb people that go and buy there's instead of saving money and bringing hteir own
also it costs like 6 bux to fill a 20 oz co2
at my local store it's two

ripoff!!:mad:

if it's mandatory that u use field paint u should sneaking in your own is bad:pissed:

Smakman

02-02-2002, 05:40 AM

Wow, I actually agree with elTwitcho for once! Pretty much anyway. Paint sales are the lifeblood of a commercial field. Without them, they won't make it unless they are charging very high prices for entrance, then of course, fewer people will come. Some fields probably do charge more than they need to, but the next time you go play at a commercial field, look around you. It takes a lot of time and money to set up a decent field. The bigger and better it is, the more it costs to build and keep up. The market will decide the price.

At my field, I allow outside paint, mainly because the paint I sell is better than the BE junk that most players bring with them and it's about the same price. Most players figure that out pretty quickly.

I charge $4 per 100, $16 per 500, and $60 per 2000 round case for Nitro Duck and First Choice. I keep my prices low because I live in a depressed area and there just isn't a whole lot of cash floating around here. It's a good thing that I have a full time job to live on.

ferret0123

02-02-2002, 06:11 AM

Right on! If the field can't make $$, it's gone

notice how i said

Although is everybody does this the feild might go under so if the field is losing money and might close then buy there paint

My feild has new coustomers everyday and is making huge amounts of $. So, I dont use there paint,,,they dont REALLY care anyways

wwhooper

02-02-2002, 07:25 AM

At my field, we use anarchy, point blank, diablo seconds, and whatever else he brings that day. Anarchy is $50 a case, point blank is $45 a case, and the diablo crap is $40 a case. Field/air fee is $5, but he only gives you like 1500 psi :( but you get air fills all day.

Gibralter

02-02-2002, 07:53 AM

LordChaos. The paint is not packaged differently for the field paint. They take the $40 paint walk it to the counter, and rip open the big bags in the case, and pour them into this big bin. When you want 100 of paint, they pull this lever and out comes 100 rounds of paint. The only different packaging is their 500. It has their logo on it. The funny thing is, i have never seen it for sale, just sitting behind the counter. The only time i have ever seen it used was when one of the kids snuck behind the counter, and "liberated the paint for the cause".

LordChaos

02-02-2002, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by Gibralter
LordChaos. The paint is not packaged differently for the field paint. They take the $40 paint walk it to the counter, and rip open the big bags in the case, and pour them into this big bin. When you want 100 of paint, they pull this lever and out comes 100 rounds of paint. The only different packaging is their 500. It has their logo on it. The funny thing is, i have never seen it for sale, just sitting behind the counter. The only time i have ever seen it used was when one of the kids snuck behind the counter, and "liberated the paint for the cause".

You start off saying it's not packaged differently, then you go on to discribe HOW IT IS PACKAGED DIFFERENTLY. Packaging is not just the box and the logo. Cases do NOT come in 100 round bags. His putting it in those bags IS packaging.

As for the kid who "liberated" the paint.. at ANY field I've been to, he would have been banned fromt he field if he was lucky, or spending quality time with the cops if he wasn't (it's called steeling).

You have already demonstrated that you have no understanding of how these things work. Don't make it worse.

For those interested, at the feild I worked at, we sold 100 rounds at ~$7, 250 rounds at ~$15, or cases at the same price as from the pro shop.

Gibralter

02-02-2002, 11:51 AM

Sorry for misleading you Lord Chaos. I responded too early in the morning.

Let me try again. They don't have cases in 100 paintball increments. They take the bags from the case and dump them in this bin. The bin has a lever on it, so when you pull it, 100 paintballs pour out into a little cup like object made of PVC pipping. The only paint that is in special markings is the 500 packs which i have never seen used execpt for the boy who stole it.

LordChaos

02-02-2002, 05:26 PM

You are discribing EXACTLY what I was talking about. I never said they have cases in 100 round bags.

They are doing the exact same thign every field does. They open a case, and measure out 100 rounds. You are paying extra because you are NOT buying a bulk amount.

A carton of cigaretes cost less then 10 packs. A gallon of milk cost less then 2 1/2 gallons. It's the same thing everywere.

You are paying more BECAUSE you are buying it in incriments of 100 rounds. If you bought an entire case at once, you would likely pay the same they sell it for at the pro shop (or near enough).

NO field's paint comes in seporate 100 round bags. They ALL seporate it and "package" it (put it in the bags/holders/whatever you wish) on their own. You pay extra BECAUSE of that, NOT because it's "field paint". If you went to the pro shop and asked for 100 rounds, you would pay the same as you would on the field. Understand that. You are paying for the cost of "individual" (or in this case, 100 round) "packaging".

Do you demand that your local store sell you 2 1liter bottles of soda for the same price as the 2liter bottle? Of course not! When you go to a fast food place, do you demand that they sell you 2 16 oz drinks for the price of 1 32 oz drink? Again, of course not. (and that's a real rippof there... about %95 of whatever they charge is profit on both).

You go right ahead and cheat your field all you want. You had better just hope that you never play on my field anytime, or that I never see you doing it, cause I WILL inform the staff of it (if I see it), or kick you off the field (if I'm reffing).

Gibralter

02-02-2002, 07:07 PM

Sorry for the last post. I must have confused my self about what i thought you said. When you are talking about buying the 2 1 liter, i get that. I understand that it costs more if you buy it in small increments. The thing is, that if my buddies and i buy a case of "field paint", it will still cost $160.

I used to thing it was bad for people to bring in their paint in a FPO setting, but once i saw the prices of paint i could buy online, i kind of changed my tune. I still support my field my buying most of my things there even though i could get a cheaper price online. I just disagree with them in the paint arena.

I know we don't agree and probably won't.

LordChaos

02-02-2002, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by Gibralter
Sorry for the last post. I must have confused my self about what i thought you said. When you are talking about buying the 2 1 liter, i get that. I understand that it costs more if you buy it in small increments. The thing is, that if my buddies and i buy a case of "field paint", it will still cost $160.

In that case, the field's owners are making a marketing screwup... Field I worked at, a case bought at the counter on the field was the same as if you walked into the pro shop, or close enough that it realy wouldn't matter, though if you bought the case 100 rounds at a time, you paid for about 2 cases... :D (and a lot did do that...).

MOST fields I've been on that are FPO will allow you to order a case of specific paint and use it on the field. Yes, you are going to pay more then you would going on line in most cases. Then again, I haven't played much in the past year, and have only played about a dozen fields total....

anonymous1475

02-03-2002, 05:49 PM

The fields I primarily go to charge you 8 for entry, then its 4 to get my tank filled, and then theres the paintballs. Oh god its expensive. 25 bucks for 500 PMI RSP. But since they always use that paint I usually just buy a crate online for 40 bucks and sneak it in (wow thats hard i put it in my duffle bag and bring it onto the field), plus theres usually about 50 players and just 5 staff so they cant enforce checks.

Gibralter

02-03-2002, 07:01 PM

Kinda the same way at my field. We will have on a busy saturday, about 30 people and like 1 or 2 staff people. It is hard for them to enforce the FPO. And on a few occasions, one of the workers has come to work with a hang over, so he justs in the corner and eats pizza.

i like tictacs

02-04-2002, 01:17 PM

if you say sneaking in paint is bad, and we should pay high prices for the field paint, i think you are wrong. if we want the sport to grow, charging $8/100 balls isnt gonna help. its just gonna turn away newer players cause they think its too expensive, think.....

ferret0123

02-04-2002, 01:48 PM

I agree nobody should have to pay $8/100 balls. Feild owners get paintballs for about $30 a case. When they charge $160 dollars for a case is where it gets out of hand. The sport will never grow with those prices

AngrySloth

02-04-2002, 02:05 PM

$160 a case? I think it's time you found a new field. Do people actually pay that much? I sure as hell wouldn't. I'd buy paint from Big 5 and play outlaw.

i like tictacs

02-04-2002, 02:08 PM

sorry i dont live in f-in paintball land, and there arent fields every 200 feet.....

wwhooper

02-04-2002, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by ferret0123

notice how i said

My feild has new coustomers everyday and is making huge amounts of $. So, I dont use there paint,,,they dont REALLY care anyways
Well maybe your field has new customers, but our fields don't. they have at most 3 rentals a week. one of the fields dosen't even have rentals!

ferret0123

02-04-2002, 03:04 PM

How do you qoutes like the one you did off of me

UTLadiesMan

02-04-2002, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by ferret0123
How do you qoutes like the one you did off of me

I know!

hehe, just hit the quote button on the left below the post you want to quote.

Gibralter

02-04-2002, 08:38 PM

I went to my paintball store and i was looking at a case of paint exactly like my field uses for FPO :dodgy:. I bought the case and went out to pay for it and was looking at one of their brochures, and i was so happy, THEY LOWERED THE PRICE!!! It is still $8/100, but a case doesn't cost $160 anymore, it is now $130. Yeahhhhhh! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

nzzzme

02-05-2002, 12:23 PM

At one field (Blast Camp in Indania) it's unbelievibly high and if your caught they like kick you out and everything. It sucks because a lo9t of people can't afford this paint and there paint isn't that good anyone (I think its 32* Winter, Why use that in the summer?) And I sneak paint in all the time. I have a season pass and get 25% off and a case is still like $140. Now I play at Sherwood Forest in LaPorte IN. and it's awsome. 100 for $5 isn't bad and I got a season pass for $100 and get 15% discounts. Paint is still a bit high ($70 a case) but it is much better quaility than that Wal-Mart $#|%. Just remeber that this is the only way these field really make money and that these guys are already paying thousands of dollars to bring awsome fields to play on.
Play Hard and be Safe

^Hawk^

04-07-2002, 01:23 PM

Well, here's my 2 cents.

I look at this the same way I look at the prices to buy food at ball game. If you want to charge me $3.00 for a hot dog when I can buy a whole pacage of 10 for $2.50, you're ripping me off, and I'll pass on buying food. Sell those same hot dogs for a $1.00 and I'll buy 3. One way the stadium gets nothing extra outa me, the other way they get a couple of bucks. Plus I'm happier which means I'll come back. It's called percieved value. I don't expect to pay $40 a case for field paint. But I shouldn't have to pay $100 for crappy Brass Eagle paint that constantly breaks in my barrel either. Field owners have a responsibillity of providing value for the money that's spent, otherwise people are going to look for ways to buck the system. My motivation for trying to sneak paint in right now has nothing to do with not wanting to pay $100 per case. I just want the enjoyment I had when my field sold RPS Pemiums and I could go all day with no breaks, and now with the Brass Eagle paints I get several breaks per game, with a marker that's setup for low pressure.

^Hawk^