Vasoline.......... Is it bad?

[Integ182]

I dont have any grease or anything so if i put vasoline on the valve o rings, will it be bad for them in any way?

[infil]

I know WGP has vaseline as one of the reccomended lube's for my cocker, not sure bout the bushy though.
I've always used Hoppe's gun oil on mine, just a real light film. Never had a problem.

Infil

[The Legend]

It will work fine.

[Richy_C]

Is it leaking? I say leave it be till you get the right stuff. ICD is awfully anal about that stuff.

[Crisis]

Whoever said vasaline is OK IS DEAD WRONG.. it will collect WAY TOO MUCH DIRT AND GRIT and damage the internals...

Use a specific AIR GUN or paint marker lube..

[splatterpunx]

dude no paintgun or airgun lube or any other oily garbage it will kill a bushy!!!

strait up go to the hardware/auto parts store,sears or whatever and buy dow corning 33/55 or white lithium grease (not the bearing grease!)

or you will void your warrenty and destroy your gun

[snipinhick]

petrolium gellys are VERY VERY BAD. they collect grime and kill orings.

[welt]

Vaseline contains petroleum(petroleum jelley), and that is bad for the gun.

[OneArmedScissor]

jsut ger Rem Oil.....
thats what i use... works good... (on my spyder)

[The Legend]

Guys, vasaline will work fine.

1- Its being put on a VALVE. The valve doesnt move, it wont be collecting dirt. The only dirt it will collect will just sit inside the valve chamber until its cleaned out. Same goes for any other lube used.

2- Petroleum jelly DOES NOT hurt the gun. In fact, PPS recommends a petrolium based lube over a synthetic. I know, we have all been told the exact opposite, but go to http://www.palmer-pursuit.com if you dont believe me. Glenn has been in business for more than 10 years, you'd think hes doing something right, eh?

He has also had a typhoon that has not been taken apart EVER. The gun is like 8 years old. The only part that has been taken out was the bolt. He used petrolium based lube when he assembled it, and has done so for 8 years on it. NO parts have ever been replaced on this gun, it has never done down.

[Crisis]

try going to a chemist and ask him will Petroleum based products eat down a nitril or poly o ring.. he will tell you YES...

I have never used petroleum based lubes on any of my airguns, and never will. I honor glen palmers judgement, but it is personal preference to me.

[Wintermute]

Regarding the argument over whether vasoline collects grime that damages things:

If you clean your gun reasonably often, grime won't have time to build up enough to damage your gun, o-rings, or anything else.

[The Legend]

Ask that same chemist how long it will take for it to eat them up.

I got curious one day and bought a bunch of tank orings to test different lubes on. I put them all in small plastic cups, soaked one in WD-40, one in 3n1 oil, coated one with vasaline, one with PMI oil, one with Gold cup, and one with 10w30 motor oil.

That was over 3 months ago, guess what, they're still all sitting on the same ledge where I left them, none show ANY signs on damage. They are all the same size (not swelled) and all would work fine.

[Crisis]

nice of you to do a test one it.. a STATIC test though, meaning they just sat there... try using them and not which one will test first.. i'll vote this way..


1st WD40
2nd Vaseline
3rd 3n1
last PMI

[jaronervin]

It doesn't matter if it's moving or not. We are talking about a chemical reaction here. Movement won't affect the experiment, especially since all of the lubes reduce friction. This "static" test gives a good idea about how the O-ring will act in the gun. Besides, some O-rings in the gun don't move anyway, like the valve, CO2, barrel, etc.

[Crisis]

i don't know about your tests then cause i have done the same and o rings do mave movement.. and co2 (tank rings) and barrel rings, you mean you've never taken your guns completly apart to clean them.... lol

[jaronervin]

well, if you want to be THAT vague, I do move my gun around while I'm playing...Will that do anything:laugh: Some o-rings do move, like the bolt, but since the only thing movement will add to this chemical reaction is heat, and the friction is reduced by the lubricating agent, it is basically the same as a stagnant test. However, it would be smart to test for a physical reaction, like if the lube doesn't work well enough, and it grinds away the o-ring or something.

[The Legend]

Yes it was a static test, but remember we are talking about a valve here. It doesnt move either...

[nitegloremote]

all I know is, someone said vaseline and cocker in the same sentence, and there can't be anything bad about that;) I recommend it too WGP is so smart

[2k1AngelShooter]

Guys, I used vasiline to build Automatic transmissions for years, it works great on orings and parts of that nature. Actually, thats what I lube bolts of spyders with on markers that I know will never been taken apart for years, the stuff works great. Hoppes gun oil though I do belive is a pentetrating oil of sorts and is harsh on o-rings.

[Creek]

Glen only used vasoline on the bolt. he used machine oil threw the marker. I know cause I own and have also work on the typhoon and blazer.

[thepainter]

its good, i think