Help w/ upgrades!!!

[SpydaXtra]

I have a Spyder Xtra I just got last week and the only mods I have made on it are a 14" Dye SS Barrel, and some Dye Sticky Grips. Spyders are well known for being thoroughly upgraded, so I need some help. What do you all think I should add onto it at this point. Right now, I have about 250-300 dollars on spending....HELP

[mikek2111987]

get a better drop forward,get a reg..get a paint job if u wanted to(even though that does nothing to performance of gun)most people would probally get a electronic trigger or upgrade to N2

[Hsuve]

In order of position to get:
1. Barrel - CP, Lapco, SP, DYE, all great choices
2. 12 volt Revolution - Feeding/chopping problems? No more!
3. Get a double trigger frame, if you don't have one, make sure it also has both inline and staggard holes.
4. Get a trigger job, I can do one for cheap, Polecat Paintball can also do a REALLY nice one for $20 + shipping. If you want me to do it for cheap, catch me on AIM, my screen name is Hsuve.
3. Remove venturi from the bolt, get an AKALMP Lightning bolt, or get a Shocktech Delrin Quickstrip bolt and drill out the center
4. Drill out the vertical adapter if you use a compact Spyder, or get an AKALMP Compact Mitey-Max
5. Get a turbo valve, any will do, make sure it has an aftermarket valve pin though.
6. Get high flowing hoses, macrolines or steel braided hoses are GREAT
7. Polish your bolt and striker
8. Get a regulator - If you use CO2, get the Palmer Stabilizer, period. If you use N2, choose whichever regulator you want, the Vigilante is a really nice one for cheap but performs excellent.
9. Polecat straightfeed or vertical feed body

You can get practically any barrel at a low cost at http://www.paintballbarrels.com

12 volt Revolutions are sold at http://www.predator-paintball.com for like $47.99 in black

You can get different double trigger frames at http://www.g3pb.com

You can get a nice trigger job from Polecat, or you can have me do one. :) By the way, I do have good feedback from some people that say I won't rip you. I'm an honest person!

To remove the venturi from the bolt, heat up the back of the venturi a bit, then take a nice, good pair of pliers, get a good grip on it, and turn counter-clockwise. The AKALMP Lightning bolt is $52.50 at http://www.g3pb.com
The Shocktech Delrin Quickstrip bolt is $39.99, or something like that at http://www.paintballonline.com (my local store)

Drilling the vertical adapter applies ONLY to the compact Spyders, if you have a standard, skip this part. To drill the vertical adapter remove expansion chambers, regulators, the low pressure chamber, screws of any sort from it. Take the drill, put in the bit that's just slightly larger than the hole that leads into the LPC area. Drill the hole from the opposite side of where the LPC screws in. That way you don't have to mess around with threads and perhaps even mess up the threads of the LPC. After enlargening that hole, take the next larger bit and drill it again. Drill the hole with 3 bits, one just larger than the other. On the bottem where the expansion chamber, gas-through forgrip, or regulator is, don't enlargen that hole. From where the hole is, drill a new hole 90 degrees to the right of where the hole is. After that, drill a hole 90 degrees to the left of where the original hole is. Make sure not to go too far forward, for if you do, you'll mess up the threads to the LPC area.
The AKALMP Compact Mitey-Max can be bought for $52.50 at http://www.g3pb.com

Turbo valves can be bought by your local store, probably. If not, http://www.g3pb.com has some.

I'm sure your local store has different hoses, if not, go scream down their necks telling them to save their money and quit the business. :)

To polish your internals, use 800+ grit sand paper and sand your bolt and striker, DO NOT use coarse sand paper. You want fine grit sand paper so you don't take off too much material. Just sand the two parts until they're shiny, no more, no less.

http://www.predator-paintball.com has a good number of regulators, at GREAT prices. They don't have the Palmer Stabilizer though... The Stabilizer can be bought at http://www.g3pb.com

The Polecat straightfeed is basically a mod that changed your feed tube to that of a 'Cockers. It's vented so it minimizes/eliminated blowback. It's great for left handed people as it moves the hopper to the right side, and with it you can finally look over the top of your gun. It's something like $50 + shipping for installation and the black version of the feed, it's around $55 + shipping for installation and the chrome feed. It's nice and it's worth it, in my opinion. They won't rip you by taking your gun and never sending it back either, though the web site isn't the greatest, the work is EXCELLENT. I believe the company email is ferret@polecatpaintball.com. There are two kinds of vertical feed bodies, one is the AKALMP VLM body. The production on those have ceased, however, if you're lucky, you may find one around. They take 'Cocker barrels and 'Cocker ASAs, they take Spyder internals though (duh! :)). They also use the larger strikers, so if you have a compact body Spyder, you have to go get the older kind of striker. The second vertical feed body is the Bob Long one. I believe that they've stopped making the compact ones, meaning if you get a Bob Long vertical feed body, you'll need a standard Spyder vertical adapter, and the larger version striker. I don't know, but there might still be some compact Bob Long vertical feed bodies out there...

Well, thanks for reading, I hope I've contributed to your knowledge. :D

[Spyder_Kid]

i recommend anti-siphon tube for co2 tank along with what hsuve said

[Jake]

I am ordering a Spyder Xtra soon and since you already ordered one I was wondering if you could answer my question. I was wondering if the Xtra is silver or green. I have been looking and I can only find a green one and was wondering if a silver one even exists. The magazine pictures look silver but it may just be because of the angle it was taken at. If you could let me know

[SpydaXtra]

It is actually green. Kingaman were stupid *******es (pardon my french) and they showed the gun coming out in a sort of aqua (silverish blue) when the announced it would hit the gun market. BUt no, all the Spyder Xtras are green, unless u order a special paintjob from stock...

[SpydaXtra]

BTW, I'm sorry, I am new to paintball, what is a "anti siphon tube"? Like what does it do, and is it necessary? Cause when I get the money, I will be upgrading to and N2 system...

[Intruder]

nitro and a drop forward and a anti-syphin. Everything else comes after. oh ya, get a reg.

[Spyder_Kid]

its a tube that u install into your co2 tank(professional recommended). it will stop liquid co2 from leaving the tank. something like the tube always faces the top and the liquid co2 sinks to the bottom so not nearly as much liquid enters your gun

[Dräko]

Originally posted by Hsuve
In order of position to get:
1. Barrel - CP, Lapco, SP, DYE, all great choices
2. 12 volt Revolution - Feeding/chopping problems? No more!
3. Get a double trigger frame, if you don't have one, make sure it also has both inline and staggard holes.
4. Get a trigger job, I can do one for cheap, Polecat Paintball can also do a REALLY nice one for $20 + shipping. If you want me to do it for cheap, catch me on AIM, my screen name is Hsuve.
3. Remove venturi from the bolt, get an AKALMP Lightning bolt, or get a Shocktech Delrin Quickstrip bolt and drill out the center
4. Drill out the vertical adapter if you use a compact Spyder, or get an AKALMP Compact Mitey-Max
5. Get a turbo valve, any will do, make sure it has an aftermarket valve pin though.
6. Get high flowing hoses, macrolines or steel braided hoses are GREAT
7. Polish your bolt and striker
8. Get a regulator - If you use CO2, get the Palmer Stabilizer, period. If you use N2, choose whichever regulator you want, the Vigilante is a really nice one for cheap but performs excellent.
9. Polecat straightfeed or vertical feed body

You can get practically any barrel at a low cost at http://www.paintballbarrels.com

12 volt Revolutions are sold at http://www.predator-paintball.com for like $47.99 in black

You can get different double trigger frames at http://www.g3pb.com

You can get a nice trigger job from Polecat, or you can have me do one. :) By the way, I do have good feedback from some people that say I won't rip you. I'm an honest person!

To remove the venturi from the bolt, heat up the back of the venturi a bit, then take a nice, good pair of pliers, get a good grip on it, and turn counter-clockwise. The AKALMP Lightning bolt is $52.50 at http://www.g3pb.com
The Shocktech Delrin Quickstrip bolt is $39.99, or something like that at http://www.paintballonline.com (my local store)

Drilling the vertical adapter applies ONLY to the compact Spyders, if you have a standard, skip this part. To drill the vertical adapter remove expansion chambers, regulators, the low pressure chamber, screws of any sort from it. Take the drill, put in the bit that's just slightly larger than the hole that leads into the LPC area. Drill the hole from the opposite side of where the LPC screws in. That way you don't have to mess around with threads and perhaps even mess up the threads of the LPC. After enlargening that hole, take the next larger bit and drill it again. Drill the hole with 3 bits, one just larger than the other. On the bottem where the expansion chamber, gas-through forgrip, or regulator is, don't enlargen that hole. From where the hole is, drill a new hole 90 degrees to the right of where the hole is. After that, drill a hole 90 degrees to the left of where the original hole is. Make sure not to go too far forward, for if you do, you'll mess up the threads to the LPC area.
The AKALMP Compact Mitey-Max can be bought for $52.50 at http://www.g3pb.com

Turbo valves can be bought by your local store, probably. If not, http://www.g3pb.com has some.

I'm sure your local store has different hoses, if not, go scream down their necks telling them to save their money and quit the business. :)

To polish your internals, use 800+ grit sand paper and sand your bolt and striker, DO NOT use coarse sand paper. You want fine grit sand paper so you don't take off too much material. Just sand the two parts until they're shiny, no more, no less.

http://www.predator-paintball.com has a good number of regulators, at GREAT prices. They don't have the Palmer Stabilizer though... The Stabilizer can be bought at http://www.g3pb.com

The Polecat straightfeed is basically a mod that changed your feed tube to that of a 'Cockers. It's vented so it minimizes/eliminated blowback. It's great for left handed people as it moves the hopper to the right side, and with it you can finally look over the top of your gun. It's something like $50 + shipping for installation and the black version of the feed, it's around $55 + shipping for installation and the chrome feed. It's nice and it's worth it, in my opinion. They won't rip you by taking your gun and never sending it back either, though the web site isn't the greatest, the work is EXCELLENT. I believe the company email is ferret@polecatpaintball.com. There are two kinds of vertical feed bodies, one is the AKALMP VLM body. The production on those have ceased, however, if you're lucky, you may find one around. They take 'Cocker barrels and 'Cocker ASAs, they take Spyder internals though (duh! :)). They also use the larger strikers, so if you have a compact body Spyder, you have to go get the older kind of striker. The second vertical feed body is the Bob Long one. I believe that they've stopped making the compact ones, meaning if you get a Bob Long vertical feed body, you'll need a standard Spyder vertical adapter, and the larger version striker. I don't know, but there might still be some compact Bob Long vertical feed bodies out there...

Well, thanks for reading, I hope I've contributed to your knowledge. :D


me thinks you just copy and paste all that info

[Paint Bulley]

got a ? -
If you just bought a gun and a barrel and some other stuff and now have another $300, why didn't you just buy a better gun?

I'm not saying spyders are bad, that's all I have. But I wouldn't mind having a higher end gun.

[hewy10]

i agree i mean i tricked out spyder is nice but if you can have and and be competive save your money and save for something better i am not dissing spyders i have one all i am saying dont spend a fortune on it, unless you really want to. i would just play wiht it until you feel that you need a better gun to stay competive with the people you play with on a regular basis then upgrade or buy a better gun and if i were you i would do the trigger job that tlplus84 recommended.

[SpydaXtra]

my parents wouldn't let me buy anything over $ 200, I had like 450, but they think I am a bad spender and need to learn responsibility...