New to Speedball

[30a2]

I was wondering if an electro is better to have during a speedball match or is just a semi good. Or does it even matter?
*WOW* Speedball is a whole heck of a lot faster then woods ball!:eek:

[mpbojangles]

Hey there. Ive been playing speedball for about 6 months (since ive started playing) and at my field, most all the kids have real real high end semi autos. Many have evolution x cockers and free flows...you know...all the good stuff...but many do have electro...stuff like bushies and angels and a real cool emag...some shockers and what not. but the only difference between semi and auto is the speed of the balls...when you get shot at with a real fast auto...like 20 balls fly over your head in a few seconds. but some people can pull 12 balls a second with a semi. its all preference and budget. if you are on a tight budget, id go with a semi though...something like a mag or cocker. most of the guys with the electros come with their pickups FULL of boxes of paint and go through 3-5 boxes a day. If yah can afford that then more power to yah. good luck with everything...

[HondaRacer2120]

id rather have a cocker than an electro........

[30a2]

mpbojangles:
Okay thanks. I am sorta on a tight budget and I see what you mean about the using a lot of paint.
HondaRacer2120:
I heard that you can mess up a cocker really fast. But hey this one kid has one and can get 18bps out of it. Though it is extremely tricked out.:eek:

[AngrySloth]

Originally posted by 30a2
But hey this one kid has one and can get 18bps out of it. Though it is extremely tricked out.:eek:

Umm... No. It's not possible to get 18 bps out of a cocker. Too many moving parts.

As far as messing cockers up easily, that's not true. As long as you know what your're doing, there's nothing to worry about. (#1 rule with cockers: If it's working, don't mess with it!)

[LordChaos]

Originally posted by AngrySloth

(#1 rule with cockers: If it's working, don't mess with it!)

Only problem is, most cocker owners can't seem to understand that.... :D

[mpbojangles]

Theres a few kids at my field with Tippmann's and stuff...If your on a tight budget, a Tippmann CAN compare to many of the better ones. I can pull about 9 bps out of a Tippmann which is pretty fast. The Tippmann wont break for anyone and works in pretty much all weather (from what ive seen). I'd say a Tippmann is a good gun for anyone. All you need is a gun that shoots fairly fast, straight, and consistantly. With the right kind of paint and barrel, the Tippmann is capable of that. But if you DO wanna upgrade, I recommend a cocker for sure. Its a nice gun. All the stuff you hear about kids messing up their cockers is from idiots who try and take their guns aparts and think they are bad asses but dont know what they are doing. I've had mine for about 3 months now and have had no problems with it cept the DAMN COCKING ROD!!!!!!!:pissed: But I really recommend the gun to anyone. Peace.

[Silencer.1]

I use my electro, and I only go through as much paint as I ever did with my tippy. Just aim before you pull the trigger. I average 1000 rnds for 3 hours of play. However, when I use my pump, I only go through 200-300 rnds in the same amount of time.

If I'm low on cash I play with pump. It helps you to learn to aim before you pull the trigger. If you don't you're screwed, cause for every shot you take, 4-5 come back at you.

3-5 cases day is crazy, they obviously use the "spray and pray" method of shooting.

[AngrySloth]

Originally posted by Silencer.1

If I'm low on cash I play with pump. It helps you to learn to aim before you pull the trigger. If you don't you're screwed, cause for every shot you take, 4-5 come back at you.


Yes, but it is very difficult to play speedball with a pump, not impossible, but very difficult. I've tried.

[mpbojangles]

Playing with a pump is all about stealthlyness or however you spell it and angles. You gotta move a lot with a pump. You gotta have support and they cant know your there or else your in trouble.

[LordChaos]

Originally posted by AngrySloth


Yes, but it is very difficult to play speedball with a pump, not impossible, but very difficult. I've tried.

Having played speedball with a pump myself, I belive I'm qualified to say that ANYONE who walks onto a speedball field with a pump for the SECOND time has a set of big brass ones... :cool:

[LordChaos]

Originally posted by mpbojangles
Playing with a pump is all about stealthlyness or however you spell it and angles. You gotta move a lot with a pump. You gotta have support and they cant know your there or else your in trouble.

No, it's more about accuracy and setting up the right shots.

Course, it helps if you can do it with style and flair ;)

[Silencer.1]

Does it count that I've also played speedball with a pgp? 10 shots, reload, 10 shots, change the cartridge. Got 2 eliminations that game, one was on the run (dead center of his chest). OSOK all the way baby!

Usually I just play with a maverick or my hammer. The hammer is only fed by 10 rnd tubes, so you MUST aim. The maverick I can autotrigger at 4bps, so I don't have too big of a disadvantage. You learn skills very quickly with a pump. Great way to practice.

Setting up the shots is important, but accuracy is more important. I'm one of the few who play pump speedball at my field, the only other one is the club president. He has a VERY nice phantom stock class he plays with.

If you do play pump on the speedball court, you WILL get schoolled the first few times. As you continue to play, you develop skills that give you a better sense of positions on the field. You'll learn to listen for where shots come from and react accordingly. I got laughed at the first few times I played pump, but once you begin to take at least a player each game, you begin to earn a little respect.

I recomend everyone does it at least once in a while. The skills you learn are invaluable for tourny play.

[UTLadiesMan]

Originally posted by mpbojangles
have had no problems with it cept the DAMN COCKING ROD!!!!!!!:pissed:

If it keeps backing out of your cocker (like mine always did), put a drop of blue loc-tite on the threads and let it sit over night. After that, it takes a little force to take it on or off, and it will stop backing out.

[mpbojangles]

I havent gotten out to get the lock tite yet but I will before i Play next. I was also told to get a KAPP cocking rod and it will stay put...but anyways, it should hold well with the lock tite until i get a new rod.

[LordChaos]

Originally posted by Silencer.1
Does it count that I've also played speedball with a pgp? 10 shots, reload, 10 shots, change the cartridge. Got 2 eliminations that game, one was on the run (dead center of his chest). OSOK all the way baby!


*bows down to the master

Dude, you must have a set of titanium ones... :)

[Silencer.1]

Dude, you must have a set of titanium ones...


Naw, what I didn't tell you is that I got schoolled bad the first two games with it. Got lit up like a christmas tree the first game and got hit off the break on the second. The third game with it, I settled into a groove and just moved right.

[LordChaos]

But you kept going back... that's what I ment.

Anyone can pick up a pump and walk onto a speedball field. But it takes a special breed to keep doing it till they get good. For some reason, most people can't seem to keep at it, and turn into "accuracy through volume" type players. (nothing wrong with that if they are having fun. There are situations that require the spray and pray mentality.). It's that reason that I still try to get a pump vs semi game going every now and then when playing. The last time I got one set up, it came down to me and two semi players, with me out of paint but still in the game when the whistle blew. The time before that, I had 2 elims and 3 surrenders in a span of a minute with only about 10 rounds left... and they weren't newbies. Course, usualy I'm the one walking off early in those games... :|

[Silencer.1]

I know what you mean. Nothing beats the feeling of popping a guy with an angel or timmy with a single ball (tends to piss them off too :P ).

I play a LOT when the weather is warm. At least twice a week for 2-3 hours each day. I usually play at least one of the those days with a pump. Keeping costs down was the initial reason to start doing it. I was eliminated quite a bit when I first started, but I grew to like the challenge and I've done it ever since.

BTW, Thanks for the compliment.

[pbgod68cal]

some of the statements above about the only diff is the 20 ballsflying past your head. thats not realy true in speed ball u dont realy just stand up hoseing the oppenate u just pop shoot back and fort if your a front guy and if your back u just shoot dwn the lanes keeping them from moving so realy i dont thing rof maters cuz themost u ever realy get off is like 7 shots any ways each time u pop out cuz thats all the time you got if your lucky

my 0.02

[mpbojangles]

but you can pop up for at least 2 or 3 seconds...mebbe less or more sometimes. but if you pop with an emag an auto with a hopper that can keep up, it will shoot about 30+ in a few seconds. :love:

[infil]

Try teflon tape on the cocking rod. One wrap keeps it in place just fine. Loctite could drip down and cause other problems.
I would definately say teflon tape over loctite.