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therron258
02-02-2006, 05:09 PM
I Think This Gun Is So Cool!

Shadow21
02-02-2006, 05:10 PM
Dont spam...

If you like it, write a review...hence PBreview. :dodgy:

Scooba St3ve
02-02-2006, 05:15 PM
Yea this gun seems to be the deal, except for it being a pump gun..I'd love to have 50,000 shots before reloading, but they'll come out with a semi auto soon enough, then that'll b worth it

Nate_H_2005
02-02-2006, 05:17 PM
pretty sure it'll never hit semi because of the propane igniting...personally it seems far too hazordous to use anyways...

therron258
02-02-2006, 05:20 PM
Id still give it a shot =]

robspar1
02-02-2006, 05:53 PM
pretty sure it'll never hit semi because of the propane igniting...personally it seems far too hazordous to use anyways...
Here we go with more of that "What if it blows up" crap...

If you feel safer with a fiber-wrapped tank holding 4500 psi of anything, then I'm guessing you slept through physics.

I believe the only problem with the production of a semi-auto version is the ammount of heat produced during prolonged firing. If/when Tippmann develops an adequate cooling system, I believe a semi-auto would be a very realistic product.

nickymidnite
02-02-2006, 06:16 PM
I Dunno I Think A Pump Gun Would Not Be Able To Keep Up To All The Other Guns Out There... Some Guy Had The C3 A Few Weeks Ago When I Went To The Woods And He Was Always Out Rof Would Be Very Low I Think On It And It Would Be To Much Work Just My 2 Cents

JesterTLS
02-03-2006, 01:07 AM
We have a scenario player that goes out with a pump only half the time. And he gets more kills than I do.

I was able to inspect our field owner's C3. I dont have a problem with it, with the exception of it is big and heavy. An pump need to be sleek and and low profile like the Phantom.

Tippmann_31
02-03-2006, 07:07 AM
I like the idea of 50000 shots and i think im going to get it when i get engough money. I will use it for a one shot kill game.

Raleigh Allen
02-03-2006, 12:27 PM
50,000 shots per tank will probably last you a lifetime, since its a pump. Save you a bunch of money on air.

Sleepykat
02-03-2006, 01:12 PM
Splat did a review on it and got 53K+ balls through it.. lol And yeah...Carbon Wrap tanks are far more dangerous then a C3.

Nate_H_2005
02-03-2006, 01:22 PM
well since I don't use a fibre tank I guess that makes me a genius to know that propane is an extremely flammable and hazarouds gas and to know that carbon fibre isn't the strongest thing to keep 3000-4500 PSI in either

robspar1
02-03-2006, 02:53 PM
Not insulting your intelligence, just trying to prove a point. Believing those propane tanks are dangerous in a sport where fiber wrapped high pressure tanks are widely accepted is a bit hypocritical.

The propane tanks that are used have been around for a very long time, and are very safe. The internal pressures of the tanks are quite low, and unless you're playing paintball while holding a blowtorch to the tank, any concern that the tank might "blow up" is very superficial.

PB Professor
02-04-2006, 07:41 PM
Carbon fiber is a modern material that utilizes a tight molecular system. The carbon fiber's molecules fasten together in a tube formation called the "Nanotube." If anything, carbon fiber tanks are much safer than steel tanks because of this:

Carbon Fiber tanks are steel tanks enforced with a layer of carbon fiber material. Carbon fiber is much stronger than steel at the same weight.

Sleepykat
02-04-2006, 08:18 PM
I work on aircraft for a living as an Airframer...I work with Carbon fiber and trust me...It's not that strong...it's strong, but it still can break. The point is that the realative low pressure that a propane tank works at isn't anything comparable to a 3000 psi tank, let alone a 5000 psi tank...Oh yea I work with hydraulic systems too that operate at 3000 psi and some at 5000 psi some aircraft systems use nitrogen for a constant supply of pressure, like the AH-1 Cobra which uses a VSS system that operates at 3000 psi, with a 2000 psi +or- 200 psi to help with initial startup...My point is that I have seen many of systems blow. I have seen carbon wraped tanks blow up in the heat of the Iraq desert and leave pretty good damage behind them. They aren't as safe as you may think. Yes the chances are slim. But if one was to blow and it was cradled in your arm, your arm wouldn't be there anymore...that alone is enough to say that there is a danger, however small, but still there.

Trulyoldnavy
02-05-2006, 03:05 AM
The problems with carbon fiber materials (in my experience) is it's inability to withstand scratch damage. Get one scratch on the surface and the fibers begin delaminating, ruining the structural integrity. Minor scratches on a steel tank are just that, minor scratches. Minor scratches on a carbon fiber tank are a signal to get rid of the tank.

I work on aircraft for a living as an Airframer.
On an off-topic note, I haven't heard that term except in the military. Would that be a US Navy AMS/H? If so, what platform? Retired AE here but of necessity I did a lot of crosstraining in AMS/H, AD, AT and AO

Sleepykat
02-05-2006, 08:44 AM
Well Marine Corps..On AH/UH-1 (Cobra's and Huey's) AMS/H I guess...Although maybe in your time they were seperate jobs. Now they are combined.Airframs Structures and Hydraulic Mechanic. In the USMC we don't have AT's just AE's, AD (powerplants, flightline) AO=Stupid "I thought I was crash fire rescue huhuhuh Bomb go boom" And of course AM's like me. But like I said we only used those in school (pensocola, FL) You probably went to school in memphis, TN right? Once we get to the fleet we don't use that.

The CF tanks we use are Wet (thick epoxy) but once you break that down and scratch the fibers it's best to get rid of the tank...That's why they sell tank covers..I see people not using these all to often.