Wow, I just saw the ugliest gun ever....

[Knux68]

Holy crap...

I just got back from Meijer... and I was lookin through their paintball stuff and I saw this new gun by BE...Samuri. oh wow is it ugly... Its all chreap plastic... The cocking system seems new, its a cheap plastic 3 inch tab you pull out of the rear. It says bottom line, but its covered all up by placstic so i coulnt see anything... Im goin to go look for a pic.

-Knux snickers at anyone who has got the gun

[Knux68]

Stupid hunk of plastic
http://www.brasseagle.com/images/products/2030.jpg

Bah...
http://www.brasseagle.com/images/products/2031kit.jpg

So...cheap...must...break
http://www.brasseagle.com/images/be_marker_samurai.gif

-Knux falls over in pain

[ptflyer]

but it has a "straight" feed........woooohoooooo.....

[Knux68]

and look!!!! A DOUBLE TRIGGER (also made of plastic)

-Knux...no sir i dont like it

[MuckRaker]

And it comes with that Awesome mask and Green barrel plug ... but wait, if you order in the next 15 minutes BE will throw in this Ronco Potato-Matic for Free ... :eek:

[dawgs712]

wow! and it comes with a holster which is phat, cux thats where this gun is gonna be stayin....or in your closet...or in the trash compactor...or in the toiler....flush...i wonder if anyone has ever tried that?....stupid brass eagle-you go flush now!...uh oh...mom, someone broke the toilet!...lol..fugly gun...

[Mad Ogre]

But - What if it actually WORKED?
What if it was actually really smooth and reliable? Strong... Never broke paint... What if?


Ah hell - its Brass Eagle - I STILL wouldnt touch that thing!

[mikek2111987]

y do they even try to sell these pieces of crap? i bet this thing chops balls like crazy and always breaks.

[Skull]

It might be ugly, but what if everybody judged a pball gun by what it looked like?!! The flatline cocker is the ugliest peace o **** i ever seen, but its performance is amazing. Same with the M98, and some of the classic mag setups. All of them still perform fine even thought the looks arn't the best!! THINK ABOUT IT!**

[SmartBall]

Don't forget the shocker...

[dawgs712]

but they all cost mroe than 3 hours of minimum wage..lol

[elTwitcho]

Dude, old school mags (68 mag) look pimpin, dunno what you mean by ugly

[Skull]

I don't mean old mags, i mean the automag classics... with those pos stock grips, no verticle setup, a pathetic stock barrel, and that feed mount thats like 5 in. long.... it the only gun that they didn't put they're pimpin cosmetics into.

[MuckRaker]

The thing is, BE is a double-edged sword ... We're all bashing that POS Samurai, and none of us would buy one as our personal marker of choice, but, BE introduces more people to paintball than any other manufacturer. So, yeah, it's FUGLY as Sin, but a lot of people are playing because of them.

[Richy_C]

dude, those guns weigh like 7 pounds! no joke!

[MuckRaker]

C'mon Ritchie ... it's made outta plastic, not Stainless Steel. it couldn't weigh more than two or three pounds.

[simon woodstock]

I wasn't introduced by BE, i went right to the spyder *cough cough* after I sold my winchester *cough cough* yep straight to spyders.:rolleyes:

[elTwitcho]

I disagree, I think it'd be better for people to get into the sport through kingman or PMI than using a BE blade. All that plastic and I really dont think it would last very long. Maybe the raptor, but plastic is just asking for your gun to fall apart on you

[Richy_C]

Originally posted by MuckRaker

C'mon Ritchie ... it's made outta plastic, not Stainless Steel. it couldn't weigh more than two or three pounds.
no dude, go to walmart and hold one, its outrageuos

[Splat Attack]

No really it is like 7 paunds. They called it electronic at wall mart. It is like 100 bucks, and It is pretty strange feeling to hold. Trust me it is heavier than my gun with a 20 oz tank on it

[dawgs712]

el twitcho is right...kingman should really think about overmarketing the spyder compact. Its only like 85 bucks and its totally stock-nothing add on. But if newbies buy this gun and they use it a little bit, than they can upgrade to be just as good as and spyder, tl plus, se, shutter (just get a bunch of stuff that doesnt work..lol) and they dont have to waste money on a BE that will brake. I really think it would work, mabey they could lower the price of the compact to like 70-75 or something and i bet people would get that over a stingray

[MuckRaker]

Originally posted by Splat Attack
No really it is like 7 paunds. They called it electronic at wall mart. It is like 100 bucks, and It is pretty strange feeling to hold. Trust me it is heavier than my gun with a 20 oz tank on it

I believe ya Splat and Ritchie ... it's just hard to believe because my STS with a 24 oz tank weighs less than seven lbs ... who woulda thunk that a Plastic Buzzard would weigh so much.

[Splat Attack]

Oh I know, it is crazy! I couldnt imagine it either, cause it is about the size of my alley cat. which is a little bigger than a pt enforcer with a longer barrel.

[Skull]

Originally posted by elTwitcho
I disagree, I think it'd be better for people to get into the sport through kingman or PMI than using a BE blade. All that plastic and I really dont think it would last very long. Maybe the raptor, but plastic is just asking for your gun to fall apart on you

Don't know bout neone else out there, but when i first got into pball i couldn't have afforded a compact alone. I've got aloto friends that just don't have the money to buy a compact with a mask and hopper and co2 and all the other junk with it... the $100 package is great for some of the kids just gettin into the sport or for peeps that don't have there parents buy them everythin!! Mucks right without BE paintball wouldn't be half as popular or as wide spread as it is now...

[elTwitcho]

If ya cant afford 100 bucks, that's what rental equipment is for. The majority of places rent stuff that's not quite top of the line, but I've never seen a place rent anything worse than a model 83 which is still a better alternative

[MuckRaker]

Not wanting to incite a riot here, but not everyone who gets into paintball plays on a "Real Field" first. BE, as crappy as it might be, definitely deserves a little respect for getting people to play, and they probably play outlaw in their backyards or vacant lots near their home ... I'm fortunate enough to live in an area where there are about six or seven fields within an hours drive.

I can see what your saying about Spyders and PMIs being the entry level marker of choice, especially if you can put up the $100 for a marker, but that doesn't always include the mask, tank, hopper, and other stuff that usually comes in a package priced at $120 or more. Plus, most of the kids getting into paintball who go BE are younger than 13, don't have jobs and are reliant on Mom and Dad to get that first marker. And believe me, mom and dad would rather put out $100 for everything (BE package) than $120+ for a real marker, cause if their kid decides they don't want to play paintball, they ain't out that much money. And honestly, I think those BE marker packages for for a lot less than $100 on some Web sites.

So, try to put in perspective.

[simon woodstock]

i thought spyder was opening up a cheaper line for the entry level player that is being sold at walmart...
ohyeah if you can't afford to spend 100 dollars on the gun mask and stuff maybe paintball isn't the right sport for you, i mean paintballs are cheapest 55 bucks (cheaper from internet but need to pay shipping) and if you're playing a couple times a month it can get pretty costly, i bought my gun and all the ugrades, i may have had a little help on my spring set.

[Splat Attack]

Well you kinda have to think about what muck said. I agree that the crappy BE stuff is the worst out there, but it has had it's share of being beat up on for being a crappy intermiediate level marker. Give it a rest, we know that they suck, and personally I am kinda tired of hearing in every thread something about BE sucking(overexagerating) So if someone askes you if they should buy the marker, then tell them that BE isnt as upgradable, reliable, durable, comfertable, dependable as spyders, or tippmanns. But chill out with the constantly bashing on the company!

but that is just MY opinion

[giller]

Originally posted by Skull
Originally posted by elTwitcho
I disagree, I think it'd be better for people to get into the sport through kingman or PMI than using a BE blade. All that plastic and I really dont think it would last very long. Maybe the raptor, but plastic is just asking for your gun to fall apart on you

Don't know bout neone else out there, but when i first got into pball i couldn't have afforded a compact alone. I've got aloto friends that just don't have the money to buy a compact with a mask and hopper and co2 and all the other junk with it... the $100 package is great for some of the kids just gettin into the sport or for peeps that don't have there parents buy them everythin!! Mucks right without BE paintball wouldn't be half as popular or as wide spread as it is now...
i shop at wallys all the time , and for 14 years i looked at the marker section,and dreamed about playin pb.be is who introduced me n all my freinds to pb. tnx be, luv ya but wont use ya

[The Billionare]

I agree that we have BE to thank for so many worthy opponents, but still, spyder or piranha should come out with a quality player pack for under a hundred. They could lower the price on the vtl player pack or something at least you can upgrade that and hang with the big boys. The compact is another good suggestion and should be scaled down to meet the needs of kids like my nephew. He's twelve and really wants to play. I keep catching him looking at BE on the net, but a compact is only ten bucks more. I told him I would give him my old 12oz and a mask if he got the compact. The stingray package reels in these kids cause the don't have money. PMI claims they are paint, well why don't they help get new players like young guns in the game. Spyder could help out a little too. Kids could also mow lawns or something, they could do their part.

[Incube]

I SHOOT A GOD DAM RAPTOR it is ok it is as good as a spyder once you upgrade it like 200 times over but it is worth it it breks like 1 ball a day. if you upgrade your gun it is better :eek:

[Skull]

Incube, pleeaassee don't use the lords name in vain...
Thats one of my biggest pet pieves

[Creek]

Skull the classic mag don't come with a barrel,the feed tube isn't 5" its 2.5.it is the same marker as the power feed.Just on the other side.Mine has wrap around grips ADG.

[Incube]

Originally posted by Skull
Incube, pleeaassee don't use the lords name in vain...
Thats one of my biggest pet pieves
yeah i should no better it is Easter and i am somewhat a christian