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mr_manny
03-23-2006, 10:47 AM
When I finish cleaning our tippys, I place a few drops of oil in the ASA and dry fire a few times.

I am thinking of adding a gauge, but I think they all say NO OIL...

Are there any gauges that are not affected by a little oil?

Cpt. Morgan
03-23-2006, 12:19 PM
Do you have any electronics on your gun (like an e-grip). If you don't, a gauge is not really needed. Even if you do its still not because you have really nothing to dammage.

mr_manny
03-23-2006, 01:53 PM
no electronics... I'm currently running an empire on/off ASA which currently has a plug on one side.
Thinking about swapping the plug for a gauge.

Having a gauge on the ASA would allow me to verify internal pressure when running a remote.

It sounds like the occasional few drops of oil isn't much of an issue?

Cpt. Morgan
03-23-2006, 02:01 PM
A gauge on a non electronic tippmann is pointless. You have no noids (or w/e they are called) to destroy. Just ajust your pressure until you get your desiered velocity.

If you get a gauge... I think oil may cause them some damsge over alot of time.

NOFXc98
03-23-2006, 02:09 PM
he asked if he could oil his gun without hurting the guage ... not what your opinion is about whether or not he should get 1 ..

if you want a guage go for it ... but cheack adn see if the oil will hurt it before you purchase 1

Tom_D
03-23-2006, 07:48 PM
I am not an expert on guages or anything. But I am fairly certian that when they print "USE NO OIL" on things, it is generaly a bad idea to oil them. Just a thought.

If you want to add a guage and/or reg. Just remember to oil upstream from them. So all you would do is turn your gun up side down. Remove the bottom line and reg. And put a few drops in the vert adapter. Replace the reg and bottom line. Air up your gun and dry fire it. Done.

Cpt. Morgan
03-23-2006, 07:55 PM
Last two posts = very true. Just trying to provide advice. If I sounded arrogant or w/e by saying w/e. I don't intend to be. Sorry. You can do as you wish.

But my question is, upstream from a gauge only. What if there are parts lower then the gauge that need internal oiling. Like if I had a gauge on my reg and needed to oil my reg. How would you go about that?

Tom_D
03-23-2006, 08:22 PM
Like if I had a gauge on my reg and needed to oil my reg

From what I know about regulators, it is never a good idea to simply pour oil into them for lubrication. For most regs, maintnence is an anual event, not every time you play. Once a season should keep your reg tip top. Everthing that I have ever read has said to dismantle the reg to clean or lube it. They are not at all complex. It's just a couple of springs and a valve seat.

If you want to know more here is a link to the warpig article on regs. It's good stuff. Enjoy.

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/regulators/howtheywork/index.shtml

senghing27
03-24-2006, 03:02 AM
I really dont see why you have a guage on it to begin with. Internal operating pressure will always be 850 PSI, until the tank is empty (co2) And also, the gauge will be very inconsistant for co2 chills the pin

mr_manny
03-24-2006, 06:14 AM
I only run air, so I would expect any gauge at the ASA to consistently read around 800PSI.
The reason why I am looking to add a gauge to my marker (the ASA simply provides a convenient mounting location) is for the following problem:

I ran a 32degree remote last w/e, and for some reason I was getting very low pressure which I verified with a chrono.
I kept messing w/the remote valve on my back (and may have messed w/the ASA) before I was able to get consistent pressure and an acceptable chrono.

Both the empire ASA and 32degree remote have a similar desgin, a post that moves down as you turn the valve.

Having a gauge on the ASA would allow me to verify pressure anytime, by simply lookin at the gauge on my marker.

Maybe I should have posted a question if there was a trick to these fancy valves?

Has anyone ever experienced this problem?

pmfman
03-24-2006, 07:52 AM
this shouldnt effect anything.

first off, not oiling your gun is murder on it and sends accuracy down the tubes. put afew drops on the inline tank adapter before putting on the tank (obviously lol) and fire it 30 to 50 times, not "afew"

Do you have any electronics on your gun (like an e-grip). If you don't, a gauge is not really needed. Even if you do its still not because you have really nothing to dammage.
it is still handy so that you dont have to make any guesses

mr_manny
03-24-2006, 08:54 AM
I'll give it a try...ordered gauge (local shop only has LP)
thanks


http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/mr_manny/gauge.jpg

Tom_D
03-24-2006, 04:35 PM
Maybe I should have posted a question if there was a trick to these fancy valves?

Has anyone ever experienced this problem?

Yeah, I guess you should have asked to begin with.

Your problem is most likley that you screwed in your on/off to far in, and it was choking off the gas from the pin valve beacuse it was pushing down on it.

When you are turning the gas on to your remote, screw in the on/off all the way. Then when it stops, back it out three quarters of a turn. You should easaly be able to tell when your tank is running low beacuse your velocicy will drop as your tank runs dry.

mr_manny
03-24-2006, 06:23 PM
thanks Tom, I'll give it a try this w/e...