Wow, sounds like Sharc isnt doing so hot...How are they(CORE)

[N3wbie]

I was just about to get a core sharc. Then i browsed this forum. Sounds like there not doing so hot. Is this right? I was about to order one tonight. What do you recommend then?

[garycoleman757]

Ive been lookin at Sharcs for the past few months but ive found a helluva better value at www.shop4paintball.com. They have the JT 4.0 with the about the same features but the JT has a vert feed. And for 105, u cant go wrong compared to the 160$ sharc. Its all metal and reliable as hell. Get one now!!!

[ThE KaP]

no way... a new gun all ways has a few bugs to work out... at paintballonline they have had them for 160 for about 5 months... wouldnt they have dropped if no one was ordering them? why do u think the excellerator dropped so much? and as for problems... i had a leaky x-chamber... i sent it back, and in 2 days i had my new gun. the second one was all most different, it had a different triggerguard... and the grips... the GRIPS were soooo much better. they sorta resemble hard stickies... anyway dont go with the excellerater... get the sharc. its got better ROF, and without a doubt has better accuracy out of the box.... personally... i think JT shoud stick to masks...

[N3wbie]

Thnx man, they really cleared up a whole lot. The reason Jt droped because they have teh 6.0 and 5.0 comming out.

[ThE KaP]

oh yeah forgot about those... u seen a pic of the 6.0 yet? the feed is like the sears tower of high rises, lol. heard sum good stuff about the 6.0, and some bad stuff. like the trigger pull isnt much shorter then a stock piranha, and it feels a little too mechanical... could be just rumors though... still think they should stick to goggles, lol.

[N3wbie]

hey, can you tell me some more about the sharc. I really like they way the look. How does it feel? Solid? Can you put electric trigger(for a spyder) on it? Are the parts spyder compatitable?

Thnx alot

[Kamotz]

The Sharc will take just about all spyder upgrades. It won't, however, take spyder springs. I bought the maddman spring kit, and none of them will work. Also the threading on the braided hose is some strange pattern I've never seen before. If you want to replace the drop backward with a drop forward, you'll most likely have to replace the bottomline, hose, and expansion chamber.

Contrary to many of the reviews, the trigger is NOT plastic. It's aluminum. The frame is made of a composite material.

As for everything else, it's a pretty decent gun. I'm only disappointed because I wish I had saved a bit longer and bought an autococker :crazy:

[tre01]

I had a chance to shoot it for the first time just yesterday. My friend owns one and played with it all day. It is a very solid gun and performs well. I was extremely impressed with the lightened trigger. It shoots just as fast as you can pull the trigger. It is very accurate too....right out of the box. It is a good looking gun too and very light. Overall...you can't beat it for the price.

[Bman7755]

I just got my sharc and im looking for some barrel upgrades any ideas:eyes: Also is the sharc compatible with spyder barrels thanks if you would help me out.

[tre01]

I'd be glad to. Yes, the CORE Sharc does take Piranha/ Spyder Barrels. I would suggest a Black 2002 14" All American by Smart Parts. You can get one for $70 at Paintballgames.com. If you got a Black CORE Sharc, that barrel would look great with it. It is just about the quietest barrel you can get and it's accurate. The stock barrel on the CORE sharc isn't bad...it's probably just about as good as you can get on a stock gun. If you are looking for something cheaper, there is a black J&J Ceramic on Ebay right now. It goes in a couple of days, I think. Just enter J&J ceramic in the search box and that should pull it up. Hope that helps

[Bman7755]

Thanks for the info I was looking at the all american at smart parts .com and there was no sharc option so should i pick spyder model instead ,also are there any sites that sell core sharc products besides paintball online:D

[tre01]

Yup...just go with the Spyder All-American. It will fit nicely. I did a search on the net and only found 2 places that sell CORE Sharcs. Paintball Online is the biggest of course, the other one is Paintballexpress or something.....they are hosted by Yahoo. They don't sell parts, just the gun and gun packages. Oh well, it looks like we just have to deal with Paintball-Online.

[Kamotz]

Well all it took was one day of gaming to change my opinion of the Sharc. I formally take back any support I had for Core. My sharc practically fell apart in my hands.

The first three problems all occured in about an hour of game time.
The sear spring broke and I had to replace it.
The drive spring broke and I had to replace it.
The rear cocking rod used in the flush cocking stripped and pulled out of the bolt, I had to retap it and replace the rod.
The bolt is made of unbelievably soft aluminum. I dropped it about 18 inches onto the plastic topped table I was working on, and it put many dings in the edges. Since the metal is so soft though, it wasn't very hard to smooth them out. :rolleyes:

And on top of all those fatal errors, there are several other problems that I dismissed as nothing major because I was convinced I got a great deal.

So, this gun looks great out of the box, and performs very well, but can't take the grueling abuse of 6 months of occasional use (about once a month). The Core Sharc really is not a very well made marker.

Bman7755, the Sharc does not take all Spyder barrels. I'm not sure of all the barrels that will fit are, I do know that Dye Xcel barrels don't, and CP barrels do.

The Sharc also does not take spyder springs, so you can't use the Maddman kit. It does not use normal threading for the bottomline or expansion chamber. I have also not found any aftermarket bolts that will work because of the rod that screws into the back for the flush cocking setup.

So....
Tricked Core Sharc for sale! Taking offers. :D heh

[Sharc me up]

I got a sharc about 2 months ago and i have almost shot 2000 rounds and i only chopped on ball that was already half broken. I ordered my gun off www.paintball-online.com and they didn't send me my paintballs so i called them and when they sent the balls there was a whole new sharc in it too. they let me keep everything they sent me and didn't charge me extra. the only funny thing was how different the guns were. like the first one has side cocking and the second one has rear cocking. also the second one keep chopping balls becasue there was a piece of metal in the way. so after i sanded it down they both worked perfectly fine.



It is a good gun but i wish i had saved my money for a cocker or impulse or shocker

[SlySi]

First day with the Sharc. I was very impressed with the gun. Shot very well and quite accurate.

BUT, within 5 hours of play my rear cocking rod used in the flush cocking stripped and pulled out of the bolt as well.

Now Im S.O.L

Any suggestions on how to fix this problem?

Where can I buy this new flush bolt? Or should I just throw this in the garbage can?

Si,

[tre01]

Call Paintball-Online....they will probably have the part now. They are finally getting their act together and making parts kits, etc. One of the guys there is really easy to deal with and will get you whatever part you need. Hope that helps.

[warpcoil]

Has anyone experience with his little broter (the CORE TigerShark)? And what can you tell me about it?
Is it a recommandable buy?

[tre01]

Check out PBreview.com. It probably has the reliability of the CORE Sharc(OK). It is really cheap....cheaper than Brass Eagle. I saw it on Ebay once, but I didn't know what it was at the time. I would say it is a good buy considering the price.

[warpcoil]

Well on pbreview.com are 4 reviews of the gun. It is rated between a 2 and a 10 :confused: and just one person gives useable arguments for his reaction.

About the price: I saw it for $140 in a package on www.paintball-online.com

Btw: Does CORE really has no website?!....

[tre01]

I have heard that CORE is Paintball-Onlines brand. Can anyone verify this?

[MyJTRox]

Don't go knocking the JT's, they're very solid and reliable. If it's innaccurate then you're using the wrong paint, and don't say JT should stick to masks cuz that's what you're hearing everywhere else and it isn't very original.

[Kamotz]

Originally posted by MyJTRox
Don't go knocking the JT's, they're very solid and reliable. If it's innaccurate then you're using the wrong paint, and don't say JT should stick to masks cuz that's what you're hearing everywhere else and it isn't very original.

Huh??


Yes tre01, Core is exclusive to paintballonline.com, and paintballexpress.com (which are pretty much the same anyway)

[warpcoil]

What kind of parts accepts the CORE (Tiger)Shark?
You don't have partkits as you have for some weapons (e.g. pirhana). What kind of O-rings etc do they use?

[MyJTRox]

Kamotz, I was just replying to a post that was farther up.

[WHITEchicken]

well everyone that is talking about throwing there sharc away...........why dont you send me an email...and we can talk about you sending me your gun.

[sosoguy01]

I can't beleive that this gun is getting a 9.6 after 100 and some odd reviews. This gun really is garbage. Get the opinion of some who has used it for more than a month. CORE is located in Taiwan and has absolutley no contact numbers. I tried to contact paintballonline.com to return the gun but didnt hear from them ever. Do not buy this gun. They use cheap parts, made of clay-metal -(thx kamotz). I have written numorous stories about this gun so im not gonna write another one. search around the other core threads and read from people who can give you a real review. listen to kamotz, hes a smart guy.

It might be possible that CORE is producing a bunch of lemons every so often because some people seem to think that this is a really good gun, but it is a peice of trash after a short while.

[sp-piranha]

god some of you are idiots!
you people are just the people that like to dis on things that you dont know about if any of you have ever read anything about the core sharc then i am sure you have read that it has to be tightend and oiled in order to work good but you newbies with spyders and tippmann's and whatever you here thats popular and you have your mommies go buy them for you and you do about 1 second of reaserch and your like hay that sounds good
(mom i need your credit card number)

i am sure the core sharc can waste any of your stupid spyders or tippmans.

[Kamotz]

sp-piranha, please have a clue what you are talking about before you open your mouth. I'm certainly not a newbie. My Sharc needed a whole lot more than a quick tightening of screws and a little lubrication. Try reading the posts first before you make a fool of yourself.

[sosoguy01]

no kidding. Are you telling me that i don't even know about this gun. I have had it for almost 4 months now. What the hell does tightening and oiling have to do with the bolt being mis-aligned. I took the gun to a larger, more professianol store and had them look at my gun. After having it for a few days, they said that the gun really was a pile of crap. The body of the gun had been mis-aligned with the size of the bolt, and the only way to fix it would be to have it worked on in a metal shop. Now, tell me, would your b.s. "tightening and oiling" fix that.

By the way, sorry for having parents.

[SlySi]

Im not sure why,

But I have 0 problems with the gun. Its shoots very quick and very accurate. I have played the gun for almost 2 months now. And have shot the gun every week for about 8 hours. About 1200 shots every 8 hours.

I have had 1 ball breakage. Field stripped it, cleaned it, and back on the field I went.

I have tried Blaze, PMI, Diablo, cheapy no name balls and have had 0 problems.

I understand the gun is not the greatest quality. But I paid 90 bucks brand new for this gun.

Or most of you paid 120-130 for the gun. And for this price range its an impressive gun.

Buyer beware, you get what you pay for.
I dont know what kind of gun you are expecting for a $100.00 range gun.

I think majority of the sharc users are happy with the gun. I am one of them.

Just because your gun was a defect or bad one, doesnt mean our guns are defects or bad. Whether its a cheap or expensive gun, everybody will have their opinions and problems with the gun.
Hope that helps you understand why so many people are happy with the gun.

My main beef, was the rear bolts. You need to really lock them down. Tighten them really tight.

[sosoguy01]

My old quote: It might be possible that CORE is producing a bunch of lemons every so often. I'm not trying to totally diss the gun to hell. I am just telling people my opinion about it. I have been messing around with my gun ever since i got it and i have finally got it to where it will now actually shoot balls. All it took was some washers, a circular saw, and some american inguinuity. This is not a gun I would recommend anyone to buy but I guess it does have some potencial.

[NickO]

I think all of you guys talking about the gun being made of soft Clay metal material and the parts being soft and all this stuff going wrong is a pile of horse poo. i have had mine for over 6 months and I use mine every week and nothing is wrong with it. Can anyone tell me what clay metal is? No because there is no such thing. the body of the Sharc is extruded alluminum and the bolt is aluminum also thats why it may be soft. Even if it is soft why are you droping the bolt onto tables, and you guys wonder why your guns might fall apart. Thighten all the parts on your gun before you play also. Be more careful with your guns your super retards. Then your Sharcs might last. So dont blame the gun for your incompetence.


P.S. my sharc is SWEET!!!!!!!

[sosoguy01]

who dropped their bolt on a table. How do you know its made of extruded aluminum. I had done nothing to cause the gun to operate incorrectly so i dont think the title super retard fits. I don't want to flame each other but just because your's hasn't fallen apart yet doesn't mean it is a realy good gun.

PS - My sharc isn't SWEET!!!!

jk dude

[Kamotz]

Ok, NickO, let me clarify some things here. First off, read the post correctly before you respond to them. I did not say that the bolt was made of any sort of clay. I said it was "clay-soft aluminum", only to get the point across that the metal is extremely soft. There are different grades of aluminum, Core decided to use a cheap grade. As for dropping it, accidents happen. Just because I fumbled with it while polishing it, doesn't make me an idiot. Having been dropped a few inches onto a plastic table should not have damaged the bolt at all, especially since the bolt only weights 2 and a half ounces.

As for "messing" with my gun, the only messing around I did was to try to repair the gun after it fell apart and became unusable.

The problems I encountered that made my Sharc unusable were things that should not have ever happened in the first place. You shouldn't have to worry about any springs breaking unless the gun has been used extremely frequently over the course of a couple years. You shouldn't have to worry about the sear, trigger, and drive springs breaking with average use over a period of 6 months. You should not have to worry about undue bolt wear because the body is not straight, and the bolt being made of soft metal. You shouldn't have to worry about replacing all of the bolt o-rings rings that have been shredded after a single day's use.

I personally don't believe that I got a lemon marker. I honestly don't believe that with all of the shortcuts taken, and the cheap materials used in manufacturing this marker that it will stand the test of time.
I will say that the Sharc does shoot very well when it's functioning properly. I liked it enough that I spent a couple hundred dollards to trick it out.
If your Sharc is working, great! I loved my Sharc until it fell apart. I even avidly defended it like you. My opinion quickly changed, however, and I believe yours will soon enough as well.

[NickO]

Well the reason I know its extruded aluminum is because I work in a machine shop where I see all kinds of metals, and castings.
And most of the castings are aluminum. So i know alittle about how strong metals are. With aluminum its very strong, stronger than steel pound for pound. The thing that happens with aluminum is it gets scratches. That is normal wear that happens with everything. And when mine does break I wont say its a bad gun because you get what you pay for. I didn't feel like going out and spending 1500 dollars for an angel, and I don't expect my gun to last as long as an angel either. Because I would expect that angel to last forever for that much coin. But for the money this is an excellent gun.

[SlySi]

NickO,

Good comment. I dont know what they are expecting from a Sub 100.00 Gun. With all these options on the gun. Its quite impressive.

[Kamotz]

I guess we have differing opinions here, NickO. If I spend $160 (not sub-$100, SlySi) on a marker, I expect it to last, just as if I spend $160 on a Spyder, or a Model 98. I expect it to last for years. I guess you don't.

[CoreSharc]

Well, ladies and germs, I don't really know what you are talking about when you say that the sharc is a waste of money. I bought one from a guy online, and have had no problems that can be attributed to the gun. I've used it in a 24-hour game, and several times since then, and have had absolutely no problems. I am using one of the older models, so that might be a reason. The only gripe I have is one that is more than likely specific to me: I outshoot the gun. I pull the trigger faster than the spring cycles. I do have one problem not with the operation of the gun, but with the feel of it. The model I have has hard nasty grips on it, which gives it a cheap feel. This was my first gun, and it's been extremely reliable. You folks should see the volume of paint that my gun puts out... STOCK. I might go to HPA, but I'm not sure if the gun even needs it.

[TPaintball]

Ah..
The test of time huh, well, I've owned my Sharc since last May, nearly a year now, and I still love it. Yeah, it's had its problems, nothing big, just the trigger spring breaking (literally snapping in half) and the O ring replacement stuff, but seriously, is there a blowback that can go a year with out having minor problems? No, there isn't. This gun can out preform a Spyder any day, and while it might not be up the durability of a Tippmann (Few guns are), I certainly rate it up there. Ah, yes, some of the threads on the expansion chamber are ****, but for someone like me who loves putting time into his gun and customizing things, I wouldn't have it any other way. I agree about the ****ty service from PBOnline, I had to call them about 4-5 times just to get them to send me a replacement spring, this gun is NOT what you guys have said it to be. You bashed the hell out of it, it is not a horrible gun. Far from a horrible gun, it out performs many other blowbacks, and is very reliable. It's great for the money, and what few bugs it does have, are easy to fix. So, enough of the Sharc bashing, obviously, the majority of them are not the "garbage" you guys believe them to be, so stop complaining.

[sosoguy01]

obviously opinions vary. I didn't try to bash the hell out of the gun, i thought it was great while it lasted. All I am stating is that i would recommend someone to buy this because of all the other guns that are in the same price range. As for the outshooting of a spyder, i dont beleive that. Kingman's are awesome guns and have a much better name than the Core. Lastly, I am not complaining. Complaining and stating the facts are two seperate things.

[WHITEchicken]

Well first of all i have only had my gun for like 2 weeks. i have shot only 300 balls throught it. my friend has a black dragun with a 32 degrees terminator barrel. im not going to lye and say i out shot him, we didnt even play against each other, acctually i havent even played a game with it yet. but i did shoot more accurate at about 100 feet than he did. just target practice, i did lube my gun and tighten all the screws before using it. as of now i only have one problem with the gun, the trigger has a really long pull, but im about to get a mako storm trigger frame for it anyway.

[SlySi]

Yeah, I have to agree with you there, the pull on the trigger is quite long.

THat would be a good upgrade for sure.

[Lothar]

Slysi, where did you get your gun? I have seen it for $160, but not $90. That is a big difference, I would love to save $70.

[tre01]

I have a couple brand new ones(one is black, the other green) that I am willing to sell for $140 shipping included. They have never been taken out of the box and are still in original factory packaging. Let me know if you have any questions. My email is tre01us@yahoo.com. Thanks

[SpyderBen]

All Core products are produced by Paintball-Online, give them a call if you are having problems or need parts. Parts wise pretty much all the o-rings used are standard tank o-rings, spyder cup seals will work, it takes spyder barrels, and they have just recently gotten rid of that retarded srop back and put on a drop forward.

[81C3]

My son has a core shark and he loves it. I have to say it's been a pretty sweet little gun till now. The only problem we've had with it is the comp. chamber blowed the o-ring out the bottom. Took it apart but to do that you have to get the brass filter out of the top because the allen head screw that holds the bottom on the chamber is inside. What happened was the restrictor inside bent and allowed the bottom of the chamber that has the o-ring on it to slip past the sealing surface and blow out. The restrictor is very cheap potmetal but then again it may be that way for a purpose. I'm going to call PBOnline tomorrow and see if this is common or not. Anybody else heard of this???

[NcicHit]

:sleep: This thread has been very interesting.