Another Dynasty player leaving

[Shadow21]

New news...Danny Tiljak is being signed with Avalanche for this next paintball season. Another great Dynasty player, gone.

http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules.php?op=modload&name=PagEd&file=index&topic_id=27&page_id=501

[cookie123]

and this is why i turned to a rage and xsv fan.

[Shadow21]

I think I might too...or go to Ironmen, since my favorite player is now there. :dodgy:

[Samrog777]

I heard about this almost 2 weeks ago.

[KillerOfGiants]

i dont see how people can make a big deal out of this(i know no one here has yet, but on other forums which have specific dynasty subforums). they should think of it like the NFL, players move from team to team a lot.

[ResidentCheese]

we arent seeing key player from other teams coming to dynasty though

[Shadow21]

That is what I was thinking. Dynasty are letting go many good playes, but aren't getting anyone in return.

[Samrog777]

I think it's just slowly making Dynasty weaker. I honestly don't think Lanche is that much stronger, even though Danny T is a killer and a really nice guy (localish), all it did was hurt dynasty.

[BunkerBoys]

I think it's just slowly making Dynasty weaker. I honestly don't think Lanche is that much stronger, even though Danny T is a killer and a really nice guy (localish), all it did was hurt dynasty.

They are getting weaker and if they keep giving away their players, there won't be any Dynasty left. Not to mention that when they traded Ollie Lang they lost a lot of their fans.

[inuyasharox4776]

im pretty sure thats what theyre doing, getting rid of Dynasty. it seems so true, since already some of the good players are leaving. I predict by the start of the new season Dynasty will be no more.

[Diablo1216]

:eek: They can't get rid of Dynasty..... Imagine all the money companies will lose. Dynasty Ion, Posters, all that s*it in the making. They will be around for atleast one more season. And trading Lang is definately one of the worst things they have done.:dodgy:

[igota98custom]

What you guys fail to acknowledge is that Dynasty is still stacked. They'll keep placing, no matter what.

[ectoblaster]

danny tiljack? hmm... where have i seen that name. Maybe here: http://webdog.specialopspaintball.com/video/fps/FPS5xhi.wmv

[partofme1337]

yeah that makes him look like a complete idiot if that is really him.

[inuyasharox4776]

this reminds me of when the Lakers traded all of their good players:dodgy:

[ikey]

colud this be the biginning of the end of teh dynasty?

[soccerjacks12]

Go Evil!
This is exactly like the Lakers. Soon the Yankees will too:dodgy:

[Stan the HitMan]

Smart parts must not be feeling very smart right about now.

From reading the last facefull it almost sounds like they are starting to focus on their AA team again.

[XxxWarheartxxX]

That is what I was thinking. Dynasty are letting go many good playes, but aren't getting anyone in return.

I dont think there "letting them go" but just plain old losing them.

[atrocityevil]

Everyone seems to be leaving Dynasty lately. The new trend.

[g35x]

naughty dogs,bushwackers and XSV have been my favs =)

[theshok]

video - what a jacka** for telling that player that dude was coming.

[undercockerdog]

I'm glad there's a change. It makes the sport of paintball alot more fun to watch rather than dynasty winning everything. If people move from team to team, I support it. The reason why the NFL is so popular is because no one team is dominant for more than 3 years.

[Shmidypb]

Danny Tijack played for avalanche in 2k4

Lanche was my fav team till the good/cool players left:dodgy:

[Whole lotta lov]

all the cool kids are doing it :P ive always supported the canes, tigers, and nexus. but i respect dynasty alot.

[p8nt_freak1852]

Dynasty is turning into another IronKids.

[naughtydogpball]

They are getting weaker and if they keep giving away their players, there won't be any Dynasty left. Not to mention that when they traded Ollie Lang they lost a lot of their ollie lang fanboys.
Fixed. I honestly don't feel to bad for dynasty, theyre are all great players and had a great run, not to mention pretty much any of them will be welcomed with open arms to any of the top proteams if they decide to disband. Im actually kind of liking this. If the top talent in the league is ditributed around to other teams for the next couple seasons it would be alot more interesting than the usual Dynasty vs. XSV final matches all the time.

[JJVLTRIAD]

Ok im a dynasty fan and im not changin that since they lost 2 players dynasty is freakin awsome and they dont needs them to stay that way they still have tons of good talent and they practice alot so think what you want but GO DYNASTY!

[cyboger17]

Oh geezy! Dannny was the best replacement for ollie as it was. as sad as I am to see dynasty do this to itself maybe for the first time since joining paintball we'll see some real compitition.

[Shiv913]

What Dynasty players are now doing is bringing paintball to a whole new era. Every season, football players get traded around, different teams, and people have to keep up with it. Some people,but not many, are not in like of one guy, rather than the team he was on. The things Dynasty players are doing is bringing in a new spin to the game. Face it, before, if Dynasty was in a competition, you know they would dominate, leaving us XSV (and others) fans let down. If the talent spreads, it will make other teams better and have a more fair and competitive field. If it causes Dynasty to disappear and only have the memories, then so be it. Maybe the souvenirs will be worth something some day.

[CapnCrunch]

What Dynasty players are now doing is bringing paintball to a whole new era. Every season, football players get traded around, different teams, and people have to keep up with it. Some people,but not many, are not in like of one guy, rather than the team he was on. The things Dynasty players are doing is bringing in a new spin to the game. Face it, before, if Dynasty was in a competition, you know they would dominate, leaving us XSV (and others) fans let down. If the talent spreads, it will make other teams better and have a more fair and competitive field. If it causes Dynasty to disappear and only have the memories, then so be it. Maybe the souvenirs will be worth something some day.
Socialist:dodgy:

And players leaving teams does not add some kind of legitimacy to the sport, IMO it shows immaturity and lack of dedication.

[Team Chokepoint]

If that's true, than every televised professional team sport shows immaturity and lack of dedication of its players.

[CapnCrunch]

Alot of players do have lack of dedication, how many times have you heard "I just want to get traded to a winning team" instead of "I want to work harder so our team makes the playoffs"

Plus paintball players tend to switch teams more often than in most sports...honestly, how many teams has Lasoya been on just this year?

[Team Chokepoint]

I agree that both paintball players and other sports players shift around constantly looking for the best team or the best salary. Maybe that's ethically flawed, but its a fact of any "successful" (depending on how you define that word) sport that I can think of. True, some anomalies like Lasoya switch teams extremely frequently, but the absence of lasoya-like players in other sports does not mean that those sports are more morally refined or more professional. It simply means that those sports have more concrete player contracts and greater incentives to stick with a high-paying team for an extended period of time.

[XxxWarheartxxX]

Dynasty is getting.....OWNED

[CapnCrunch]

Yeah:rolleyes:

[Shiv913]

Alot of players do have lack of dedication, how many times have you heard "I just want to get traded to a winning team" instead of "I want to work harder so our team makes the playoffs"

Plus paintball players tend to switch teams more often than in most sports...honestly, how many teams has Lasoya been on just this year?

What are you guys talking about lack of dedication? This is Dynasty were talking about. What haven't they done? They have nothing left to be dedicated to. Maybe they are looking for the bigger salaries and publicity, but they might as well.

Those guys are idols to alot of us players around the world. If they didn't switch teams, they may just quit the sport. This way, they are spreading talent and helping other teams. Either way, people will benefit more from this.

[soccerjacks12]

And the gap won't be so big between them and the rest of the pack, even though XSV runs w/ them. BUt they are being dumb. Releasing all those players, they'll dismantle in the next 3 or 4 years.

[TheWonderWaffle]

I honestly belive Ollie was so good because he played for Dynasty. Dynasty behind him was what made him so good! Not saying that he isn't still the greatest, but I suspect we'll see an unsual lack of big plays from him in the coming season. The reason Dynasty was so good was because they were a team not just a group of individuals. With that being broken up, lets just say that paintball is going to become a bit more competative!

[CapnCrunch]

Dynasty is dedicated, that's why I like them. And you can't say Dynasty has to break up to be dedicated, thats really the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Other teams will and have catch up, as soon as they get off their fat asses and practice harder. You don't have to spread out talent like some socialist league to have good teams, you have to have players and teams that are willing and motivated to work hard year round.

[EMPIR3balla4747]

I agree with CapnCrunch. Players leaving a team doesn't help the whole league. Look at Ollie, he isn't even playing pro anymore. He left because of his selfishness in wanting to be remembered as a great player and not a great team. So then he leaves the professional league. Players like Ollie leaving like he did are ruining the sport of paintball. If Derek Jeter left the MLB to play in the minors, just so he could get paid more, what does that make him. It makes him a god playing among peasants, not being challenged at all and still making a crapload of money. And don't blame Dynasty for this, either. I'm sure they didn't wake up and say, "Ahh, let's get rid of all our players today." Ollie LEFT them, they didn't leave Ollie. I'm sure they want to keeep everybody and keep winning. That's my 2 cents, take it or leave it.

[igota98custom]

Edit- nevermind, didn't clearly read it

[Team Chokepoint]

Look at Ollie, he isn't even playing pro anymore. He left because of his selfishness in wanting to be remembered as a great player and not a great team.

The Ironmen are pro, guy. His selfishness involved money, and frankly there's nothing wrong with wanting a salary like his.

[Shiv913]

What in the hell are you talking about this Socialist crap for non-stop. Just learn the word and dont know what it means? A socialism is where there is one centralized party or dictator. I never said the NPPL or someone else is telling them to change teams, that's their own decision. This is what Im saying...

Dynasty History (http://dynastypaintball.com/history.htm)

Look at that and tell me what else can you do? Go 5 consecutive times for the millenium series? I cant speak for them but I can tell you after that much and that long, it could tend to get old, maybe you need more competition yourself. Maybe Ollie isn't as good as people think because he has 3 or 4 of the top 10 players in the world behind him. So changing that will show just how good he is.

[igota98custom]

What in the hell are you talking about this Socialist crap for non-stop. Just learn the word and dont know what it means? A socialism is where there is one centralized party or dictator. I never said the NPPL or someone else is telling them to change teams, that's their own decision. This is what Im saying...

Dynasty History (http://dynastypaintball.com/history.htm)

Look at that and tell me what else can you do? Go 5 consecutive times for the millenium series? I cant speak for them but I can tell you after that much and that long, it could tend to get old, maybe you need more competition yourself. Maybe Ollie isn't as good as people think because he has 3 or 4 of the top 10 players in the world behind him. So changing that will show just how good he is.



You can't sense sarcasm, can you? The :dodgy:=sarcasm, so cool off.

[Shiv913]

considering he said it twice, does not indicate sarcasm to me.

[NolanVTpaintbal]

Dynasty should disband or shift around like this. Too many good players on one team makes it very uncompetitive

[VivaTheNation]

^ or it makes a great team and makes other teams push themselves to limits and bring us the best entertainment we have ever seen. 1990 = 10 bps
2006=32bps Dynasty will join with Xsv and make a superior team :):dodgy:

[di$TOrTed]

^ or it makes a great team and makes other teams push themselves to limits and bring us the best entertainment we have ever seen. 1990 = 10 bps
2006=32bps Dynasty will join with Xsv and make a superior team :):dodgy:
i agree with you 100%

but the real reason they are leaving is to make room on the team for me and my friends

[VivaTheNation]

^^ Yea i heard Brain Cole saying he was saving 5 spots for you and your friends :dodgy:

[B.C.paintballer]

I'm still confused about Ollie Lang leaving. In an interview at the US Championships, he was saying how they were all like brothers, and they all did their first tournaments together. So now he leaves?

[Shiv913]

Ya, but a 6 million upfront contract with a 100,000 salary there on may change your mind

[naughtydogpball]

Ya, but a 6 million upfront contract with a 100,000 salary there on may change your mind
I thought it was 100,000 upfront, 6 million salary over several years. And didnt ollie leave for a team he used to play for before dynasty? Whats so bad about going home? I say he is entitled to do whatever he wants, **** you guys. You wouldnt know anything about what he is doing because all youll ever know is what someone else tells you.

[soccerjacks12]

He is going to the Ironmen. He used to play on the Ironkids, diferent team.

[stickfigure]

Ollie lang is the TO of paintball

[Shadow21]

Now...Dynasty is losing it all, and Ironmen still suck. :dodgy:

And I stil like Dynasty and Ollie? :eyes:

[naughtydogpball]

Ollie lang is the TO of paintball
TO ?

[naughtydogpball]

Now...Dynasty is losing it all, and Ironmen still suck. :dodgy:

And I stil like Dynasty and Ollie? :eyes:
I do believe Ironmen are getting other new players as well, so i wouldnt say they suck just yet. We'll see.

[CapnCrunch]

TO ?
Terrell Owens.

[CapnCrunch]

I do believe Ironmen are getting other new players as well, so i wouldnt say they suck just yet. We'll see.
Double posts suck.

[soccerjacks12]

So does Terrell Owens.

[gdog5]

Double posts suck.
o the irony

[naughtydogpball]

Terrell Owens.
Who's that?

[gdog5]

http://images.google.com/images?q=terrell+owens&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Lets get back on topic here

[Shiv913]

someone has a crush on TO and thinks hes the greatest, like some of you may think of Ollie as. He's a kid at the ripe age of 23, being handed 6 million and a wealthy salary, like he said in his interview "...I secured my future." Honestly, whether your around that age, or remember that age, wouldn't you like to have that kinda cash laying around and all you gotta do is shoot people in the face. He's got a life now we 'ballers dream of and some of you are jealous. Saying its all about the sport is kind of hard to say in this situation, but I said it before, he's advancing the sport to a new level; Football, Basketball, and Baseball levels.

When some of you, if any, go pro later in life and get offered plentiful salaries to play the sport you love, you can look back and thank Ollie.

Dye Posterboy - Taken! - Ollie Lang

PE - Open
Smart Parts - Open
PMI - Open

Its nearly endless...

[ICU117]

I'm gonna stick with Dynasty, they still have great players, they can pull out the season. They did lose some great players, but don't count them out yet.

[Gundam]

someone has a crush on TO and thinks hes the greatest, like some of you may think of Ollie as.

Name someone that is better than Ollie Lang and is still playing. I will give you 1,000 E-Cookies.

[shoktek91]

^I think that the "troll" is better, but we all have our favorites :D

They are going to be falling apart. Soon you will see the dissapearance of Greenspan, Rau......how the mighty have fallen.

[Shiv913]

Like football, one team doesn't decimate all the others, year after year. Steelers were the **** last year, the Patriots the year before. With some fine tuning and recruitment of new talent and training, a new team (usually) wins every year. IMO, driving distances or watching shows and knowing Dynasty will take it 90% of the time is not exciting or worth it. Underdogs coming up from nowhere and showing what theyre made of. Fresh faces slapping paint all over the LaSoya's and Lang's is what (most) people want to see. Hell, I know I would like to do it one day.

And to Gundam's response, its all personal preference who you like. He was good because he had Dynasty behind him. And he stood out cause he did alot of suicide rushes and hit a few kids in the process, not saying its luck or skill, just, he couldnt be where he is without a team like Dynasty backing him. Personally, I do not think he's all that great.

[WARPED1]

Ollie is the Michael Jordan(before his first retirement) of paintball, Danny wasn't bad. He was no Scottie Pippen, but he wasn't bad. I too have become an XSV, and NE Hurricanes fan after that ESPN2 NPPL from last year.

[scarroll825]

That movie posted earlier was pretty good, especially the first song Comfert Eagle- Cake, God I love that song. But yeah teh points about pros are good too. The guys did seem a bit like a winey ***** though.

[CapnCrunch]

They are going to be falling apart. Soon you will see the dissapearance of Greenspan, Rau......how the mighty have fallen.

I really doubt it...

[gdog5]

They are going to be falling apart. Soon you will see the dissapearance of Greenspan, Rau......how the mighty have fallen.
Yea right, im sure theyre just gunna hang up their gear and quit because one teammate left for another team :rolleyes: .

[WARPED1]

I really doubt it...
I don't. Take my Chicago Bulls analogy, they fell apart when Mike left, then he came back and they were good, Then he left and they got bad again..........

[soccerjacks12]

The Bulls are good now:D

[WARPED1]

The Bulls are good now:D
Did they win the championship? Or make the playoffs? I really don't know, I'm not being a jerk.

[soccerjacks12]

Yeah they made the playoffs. But lost in 6 games to the Heat. But I think if Dynasty sticks togehther they will be able to run w/ XSV.

[Team Chokepoint]

Jordan made the Bulls, but Oliver did not make Dynasty.

[WARPED1]

Yeah they made the playoffs. But lost in 6 games to the Heat. But I think if Dynasty sticks togehther they will be able to run w/ XSV.
I'm sure they will for a season or so..........

[naughtydogpball]

Jordan made the Bulls, but Oliver did not make Dynasty.
Dennis rodman and scotty pippen werent there?

[sniping99]

all the great teams in any sport went a few years were the they terrible and thats whats going to happen to dynasty

[Tippmann Masta]

I dont mean to be a jerk, but i think ollie lang is a little overrated :rolleyes:

[sniping99]

ollie will never as good as he was because he will never play wit the same type of players that were on dynasty

[g35x]

http://thumbs.vidiac.com/202D8041-6696-46EB-BA4A-733E03BCB3F6.jpg (http://www.darksidevideo.org/video/202D8041-6696-46EB-BA4A-733E03BCB3F6.htm)Click here to see Video (http://www.darksidevideo.org/video/202D8041-6696-46EB-BA4A-733E03BCB3F6.htm)

i didnt make it jsut linking to it kuz i like teh song

[prosplatmaster]

I dont think there "letting them go" but just plain old losing them.


He's correct, it's not like dynasty is trading them, they can leave freely, it's like free agents in basketball kinda. :o

[naughtydogpball]

I dont mean to be a jerk, but i think ollie lang is a little overrated :rolleyes:
Rofl..compared to who? You?
He is one of, if not the best player in the world. Its not "opinion". Its what happens when your put into a leadership position on a team of your peers setting off to play the best teams in the highest division.

[Sheps]

Just learn the word and dont know what it means? A socialism is where there is one centralized party or dictator.
Your grasp of the fundamental thought behind Socialism is poor at best.

I personally think that it's good that Lang is gone, hopefully it will give the other Dynasty players a better chance at getting more coverage; quite simply, what Lang was capable of doing was incredible, but it could only happen with a good team behind him. Hopefully Dynasty losing Lang will show the public just how much the individual players rely on each others skills to create a cohesive whole; whether it be by completely scking due to the fact that they lost a critical element of the team, or whether it's by replacing Lang with someone else who is a good team player and rebounding from it's latest defeat.

[Shiv913]

...

And to Gundam's response, its all personal preference who you like. He was good because he had Dynasty behind him. And he stood out cause he did alot of suicide rushes and hit a few kids in the process, not saying its luck or skill, just, he couldnt be where he is without a team like Dynasty backing him. Personally, I do not think he's all that great.

That has already been said. And before you mock me on my my knowledge of socialism, realize that I wasn't trying to define and explain it. I was just showing his misuse of the word.

[naughtydogpball]

That has already been said. And before you mock me on my my knowledge of socialism, realize that I wasn't trying to define and explain it. I was just showing his misuse of the word.
Lol right and you did a fine job at that....

[sniping99]

i have to agree that ollie is overrated because he was supposed to make ironmen a top 4 team and so far there not even top 10.

[naughtydogpball]

i have to agree that ollie is overrated because he was supposed to make ironmen a top 4 team and so far there not even top 10.
....Yes, hes right. Its one players fault that the rest of the team isnt very good. We all know that Ollie was completely responsible for making the whole team better than they really are :rolleyes:
Why the hell would you blame them sucking on one guy not being good enough? Like many other people have already said, Dynasty was good because the ENTIRE TEAM was full of great players. Unfortunately we cannot say the same for the Men in red :dodgy:
Ollie is one of the best, but without a good team behind him, they are still going to get raped.

[OWNAGE]

i have to agree that ollie is overrated because he was supposed to make ironmen a top 4 team and so far there not even top 10.
Ironmen placed 4th at Tampa. They are 5th overall.

I'm surprised you wouldn't have known that, especially with Tampa being so close you could have gone by car?

[sniping99]

im to lazy to go to tampa. plus it dosent matter where they finsh till ironmen plays dynasty in a tournament.

[trivisual]

it doesnt matter that dynasty is losing this sub.. he isnt a starter nor a dynasty original anyways. So does this really matter? they still have yosh and alex fraige, two players who are just as good as ollie lang. they are ranked #1 still and will always be. this newb they loss does not hurt the team nor the sponsorships at all.

[CapnCrunch]

im to lazy to go to tampa. plus it dosent matter where they finsh till ironmen plays dynasty in a tournament.
There have been multiple Dynasty vs. Ironmen games. I know Ironmen have won one at the last PSP.

And trivisual....shutup.

[sniping99]

who is the guy that replaced ollie on dynasty?

[Team Chokepoint]

it doesnt matter that dynasty is losing this sub.. he isnt a starter

Stopped reading there.

[iowntimmy's]

i dunno if its just me but i'm pretty sure dynasty didn't "trade" ollie, he left for better profit and such. Same with the lakers.

[soccerjacks12]

it doesnt matter that dynasty is losing this sub.. he isnt a starter nor a dynasty original anyways. So does this really matter? they still have yosh and alex fraige, two players who are just as good as ollie lang. they are ranked #1 still and will always be. this newb they loss does not hurt the team nor the sponsorships at all.
Stop posting. Now.
Amd whoever said Dynasty didn't trade him, you are correct. He sigend w/ Ironmen because of the fat check they were offering.

[sniping99]

it was a sumo check ($100,000)

[Sheps]

That has already been said. And before you mock me on my my knowledge of socialism, realize that I wasn't trying to define and explain it. I was just showing his misuse of the word.
...right...



You are aware that Socialism is, by definition, supposed to be a form of government that is controlled by an elected body, right? Hence the Politiburo of the ex-Soviet Union (which admittedly, was often lorded over by people such as Stalin)?

[naughtydogpball]

it was a sumo check ($100,000)
That and the 6 figures hes going to make playing for them over the next couple years.

[CapnCrunch]

I'm pretty sure $100,000 per year is a six figure salary...

[WARPED1]

That and the 6 figures hes going to make playing for them over the next couple years.
$200,000 and medical and dental. Words from Ollies mouth on his MySpace page.

[fake ninja]

Naughty Dogs or Stockholm are the ones who I have been rooting for

[CapnCrunch]

Naughty Dogs or Stockholm are the ones who I have been rooting for
Good to know?

[naughtydogpball]

$200,000 and medical and dental. Words from Ollies mouth on his MySpace page.
Nice, ty

[officerballs]

Im so sick of hearing about dynasty (no offense to anyone), we all know that they are the sh** regardless of losing Lang and Tiljak. As much as I would like to see them lose every match this season in response to losing two key players, let's not overlook the fact that they are still a stacked team (Greenspan, Rau, Fraige, Fragoza, etc...) and will probably still do very well despite this incident.

[WARPED1]

Naughty Dogs or Stockholm are the ones who I have been rooting for
XSV and NE Hurricanes.

[Spiritualized]

I don't think its that big of a deal.. I mean I've been an XSV fan for a while but I don't think Dynasty is going to disband otr anything.. Dynasty is stacked and some players just have to go (probably shouldn't have thrown away Ollie)... I think Dynasty will still be the great team they are.

[Spiritualized]

$200,000 and medical and dental. Words from Ollies mouth on his MySpace page.

tell me any of you wouldn't do the same..

[CapnCrunch]

tell me any of you wouldn't do the same..
I wouldn't have. He's already making 60k plus winnings for SP, that's more than enough to live on. The fact that he left the team he'd played on practically all of his life on a spur of the moment decision for a little more salary is what pisses me off.

And Ollie's myspace says his income is 100k to 150k...he's making 100k.

[Baller98]

man this stinks but we still got ryan...i might goto a ironman fan cuz my man Olllie is there

[CapnCrunch]

Yes, the still have Ryan, Alex, Angel, Todd, Yosh, Quincy, BC...

[Alleyesonme907]

i never really liked dynasty
XSV AND NAUGHTY DOGGS

[Jlausen]

Go Evil!
This is exactly like the Lakers. Soon the Yankees will too:dodgy:

Haha, the yankees will never lose all these big money players, they just won't get to the WS. Sports is always like this, there is always a "Dynasty", like the Celtics, Steelers, Patriots, Red Wings. Sport remain fun because its never the same for very long. Its cyclic.

[dantriggerhappy]

Dynasty will still be good, and still place. They have alot of guys on their roster, and all of the younger guys who haven't been playing as much are still amazing paintball players.

[kibae76]

I wouldn't have. He's already making 60k plus winnings for SP, that's more than enough to live on. The fact that he left the team he'd played on practically all of his life on a spur of the moment decision for a little more salary is what pisses me off.

And Ollie's myspace says his income is 100k to 150k...he's making 100k.

If he was making 60k with dynasty and he's making a 100k with the Ironmen then he's getting a 66% salary hike. That's huge. If a person left their job for a 66 % hike in pay in any other profession we wouldn't even be having this conversation. This is his job and salary is a large consideration when it comes to a person's employment.

In regards to the benefits to the sport of paintball, this pay hike makes the sport seem more attractive to investors because they see that a company is willing to pay higher salaries. A company will not do that unless it is profitable. Thus making it more likely that people will invest in the sport. It will also make the talent pool more competitive because higher salaries attract more people to play in the sport.

Ultimately none of this matters. He made a financial decision and it was the smart one from an employment perspective. People leave jobs for higher salaries all the time. $$$ is why you work. If you are fortunate enough to work in a field that is your passion great, but $$$ is always a factor and anyone who doesn't understand this doesn't understand how the real world or the world of sports works.

[Deathwish]

As stated above, why wouldnt Lang leave when is going to be making 40k - almost double his old salary? anyone in their right mind would take the deal, yeah im sure everyone on dynasty thinks ollie is a sellout, maybe not but i'll bet you that if anyone else on Dynasty or any other team for that matter was offered 100k+ to go play for another team, they would do it in a heartbeat, and to everybody who keeps saying "Dynasty is screwed now that they traded ollie" they didnt trade ollie, he left on his own Dynasty didnt get sh** in return from the ironmen except for a spot out of the finals. Ollie was the heart and soul of dynasty yes, but they are all still amazing paintball players and will remain to place top 5 i think.

[CapnCrunch]

If he was making 60k with dynasty and he's making a 100k with the Ironmen then he's getting a 66% salary hike. That's huge. If a person left their job for a 66 % hike in pay in any other profession we wouldn't even be having this conversation. This is his job and salary is a large consideration when it comes to a person's employment.

In regards to the benefits to the sport of paintball, this pay hike makes the sport seem more attractive to investors because they see that a company is willing to pay higher salaries. A company will not do that unless it is profitable. Thus making it more likely that people will invest in the sport. It will also make the talent pool more competitive because higher salaries attract more people to play in the sport.

Ultimately none of this matters. He made a financial decision and it was the smart one from an employment perspective. People leave jobs for higher salaries all the time. $$$ is why you work. If you are fortunate enough to work in a field that is your passion great, but $$$ is always a factor and anyone who doesn't understand this doesn't understand how the real world or the world of sports works.
I don't mind that he did it as much as the way he did it. As in right before PSP Texas, not telling any of his teammates/life long friends.

[Racso]

Sorry if its been said...

but Dynasty is not "letting anyone go." Who in their right mind lets great players go for no reason? So stop saying "Dynasty is stupid for letting Ollie go." For God's sake, Ollie LEFT Dyansty ($100,000 may have had something to do with it).

Lets see, what would I take? Stay on the best team and win lots and lots of games and get famous.... ORRRR.... take $100,000, get hired onto the most profitable paintball company, and get famous for turning a mediocre pro team into a great pro team and win lots and lots of games.... :dodgy:

[AlphaMo0se]

Ive played agaist alex fraige O.o :P
I live in the Sanfransico bay area.California. (he's good).:cool:

[fake ninja]

Jordan made the Bulls, but Oliver did not make Dynasty. Exactly, what about Fraige, Rau, Greenspan, Ect. It dont care though cuz im A Naughty Dog/Stockholm fan anyway.

[sniping99]

well jordan needed pippen and rodaman and ect.

[kibae76]

I don't mind that he did it as much as the way he did it. As in right before PSP Texas, not telling any of his teammates/life long friends.

Point taken but friendship is friendship and business is business. Keep the two separate. What he did was a business decision. Maybe Dye didn't want him to say anything to anyone or maybe he thought that it was a smarter call financially to not let anyone know about the deal till the last minute. People get friendship and business confused. They are two separate things.

[CapnCrunch]

Meh, personally if I was on a team w/ lifelong friends I wouldn't abandon them for an extra 40k a year...w/e though, the decisions been made, it's over.

[edudcixlsyd]

Ive played agaist alex fraige O.o :P
I live in the Sanfransico bay area.California. (he's good).:cool:

who'd have thought that a player on a pro team would be good?

[kibae76]

Meh, personally if I was on a team w/ lifelong friends I wouldn't abandon them for an extra 40k a year...w/e though, the decisions been made, it's over.


40k a year is a lot of money. live off the 60k invest the 40k and in 10 yars witha good financial advise you can have more than a mill. looking at it as 40k a year is short sited. on 60k a year there is little to invest. at 100 there is a good amout to invest. Olli is a young athelete and he should make wise financial moves so that when his time is up he's not working a 9-5 jsut to make ends meet. Real friends will understand that. And if you wouldn't go to a new job for almost double your salary then you better learn to do better math. I respect that your a person of principle but you can't pay your bills or retire on your principles. Make as much as you can while your hot cause you won't be hot for ever.

[Pballfreak725]

Dynasty is probably going to start getting killed because of all the player loses. Now all they have that are any good are Angel Fragoza and Yosh Rau!!! I've always been a Naughtydogs fan anyways, but Dynasty is out of luck to them now. XSV is probably the best team around other than Philly Americans.

[dantriggerhappy]

Dynasty is probably going to start getting killed because of all the player loses. Now all they have that are any good are Angel Fragoza and Yosh Rau!!! I've always been a dogs fan anyways, but Dynasty is out of luck to them now. XSV is probably the best team around other than Philly Americans.


No, not in the least.

[kidw/skill]

UMMM...my 2 cents= I DONT CARE/

[Shadow21]

Thank you oh so much for kick up a dead thread. :dodgy:

[kidw/skill]

ummm...your welcome??