Need clarification: Cockers - difficult to maintain?

[Mr. E]

I've heard so many contrasting reports on this subject....are cockers really hard to maintain? Some people tell me they are fine as long as you don't mess with them and some people tell me they spend more time trying to repair them then actually use them.

Whats the truth? :confused:


I probably should have posted this in "High-End Semi's" forum but oh well.

[HondaRacer2120]

nope as long as you dont mess with stuff you dont know about like timing all you need to do is put vasaline on the bolt and 4-6 drops of oil in the asa and fire 30 times with no barrel

[slickguy55]

You dont really have to fix a cocker a lot. Mine has never broke. The only problems i have with the cocker are it chops a ton, and its closed bolt so you have to dry fire before you can start shooting. I personally dont like cockers so if you dont like those two problems then i suggest not buying the gun. And yes the cocker is complex.

[HondaRacer2120]

Originally posted by slickguy55
it chops a ton, and its closed bolt so you have to dry fire before you can start shooting

chopping--------sounds like your short stroking the trigger buddy

dry-fire--------you need to dry fire once to load the first ball; or you could just pull the back block back to load a ball before you gas it up :)

[slickguy55]

Choping- im not short stroking it just needs to be timed, i dont know about you but i think of timing as finishing a cocker, so i dont think i should have to time it myself

[HondaRacer2120]

:confused: now you lost me..................... :confused:

[slickguy55]

im shorter words....I think wgp should of timed it

[m@c]

dude mine came timed not perfect but i think your prob is you dont know who to shoot ....

[HondaRacer2120]

dude all cockers come timed and ready to go.............or you can time it your self

[Mr. E]

Originally posted by HondaRacer2120
:confused: now you lost me..................... :confused:

:| I have no idea what timing a cocker is :|

[slickguy55]

Originally posted by m@c
dude mine came timed not perfect but i think your prob is you dont know who to shoot .... ummm i no how to shoot it. cockers arent good at all unless you like chopping and double feeding. As far as im concerned spyders are better than cockers.

[HondaRacer2120]

Originally posted by Mr. E


:| I have no idea what timing a cocker is :|

timing is to get the time when the sear lets the hammer got to the time the pneumatics kick the back block back read the sticky in the worr games forum for more detail

[carfreak]

hey slick, if you think sypders are better than cocker, than why do you own a cocker.

[slickguy55]

i own one because i got wrong info on them

[Silent Knight]

are cocker complex? yes, but cockers are not difficult to maintain at all, once you learn how the marker works (ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS) it's just like everything else... it's easy.

WGP does it's best to make sure that all of it's autocockers that leave the factory are timed, and ready for some game time. However WGP's quality control is not the best, and often a few autocockers make it past quality control not being properly timed, sad, but yet it does happen. Slickguy55, if you are certain that you are not short stroking the trigger, then your timing is probably off.

[slickguy55]

yeah its not timed well, what im trying to say is that the customor shouldnt have to time it perfect.

[UTLadiesMan]

If your timing is off, then just time it. It takes like 15 minutes the first time you do it, after that it keeps getting quicker and quicker.

http://www.paintballravi.com/Articles/AutocockerInfosheet/ACTroub.html

As far as the original question... yes, on both accounts. They are hard to maintain if you mess with stuff and don't know what you are doing. If they are working perfectly, they don't take any effort at all until they stop working perfectly. A cocker will eventually slip out of time, but as I said before, timing is actually pretty easy, and quick. There are other problems that can go wrong, but after you have to deal with each one, the next time it happens will be a piece of cake. Within a year, you will know everything there is to know about your cocker, without ever having to really mess with it. If it doesn't work exactly right, ask someone who has used one, and then you know one more little trick.

[Silent Knight]

Timing is just something you will have to learn, dreadful for some people, but it's a lot cheaper then taking your marker to the pro shop, having them install a new part for you, and charging you an arm and a leg for installation fees. Rather then just get the timing out of the way by learning how the markers works, you learn not only how to install different parts, but you are also getting a better grasp on how the markers functions, and in turn timing will get easier and easier every time you take on the task.

Let this be a lesson for those out there who are looking to get an autococker. I am going to be straight up and honest, yes an autococker can be confusing at times, but after a while you will eventually learn it. If you are willing to put in the time, to learn about the marker, then everything will come easier for you. If not, then things can get expensive, and frustrating.