View Full Version : Omen 2.0 Questions
JeffleTheWaffle
04-26-2006, 05:51 PM
Do you have to set the recock everytime you connect your tank or everytime you turn it off or what?
Is an eVLution II a good hopper for the omen 2.0?
any other tips for an omen newb would be appreciated. Anything else i need to know about the gun?
beastatsnake
04-27-2006, 12:45 PM
It isn't required that you set the recock everytime you use the marker. Also, the Evolution II is a great hopper. If you buy one, upgrade it with a Z-Board.
Sheps
04-27-2006, 04:12 PM
You only need to adjust it when the pressure your tank outputs changes, so with HPA you should just have to set it once and leave it that way; but with CO2 you will have to re-adjust the recock a lot more, due to CO2's tendency to cool and lose pressure at high rates of fire.
JeffleTheWaffle
04-27-2006, 06:14 PM
Yea i got a n2 system because i never want to run co2 through this marker. Can any of you tell me why everyone hates the omen?
beastatsnake
04-28-2006, 06:16 AM
Yea i got a n2 system because i never want to run co2 through this marker. Can any of you tell me why everyone hates the omen?
Most people stereotype the Omen because it is a blowback marker and that it is made by Evil.
cyberpyr8
04-28-2006, 06:31 AM
Only Sheps hates them! :)
There's nothing wrong with the Omen. It is a great marker that will shoot ropes for you. They are generally low maintenance and once the reg breaks in the Recock almost becomes a non issue. I have 3 of them and they are a breeze to setup each time we go to the field. At this point I literally pull them out, air them up and chrono them. The detonator reg is so consistent that I rarely have to adjust them. The only time I have to re-adjust them is in colder weather.
The only thing to be careful with is cheap paint. If the paint is too brittle the cams will sometimes break the paint. Though last time I went I bought Shrapnel paint at the field and we never had any problems. The Diablo Heat gave me some problems in them before. But at other fields we were able to shoot Heat all day. Experiment a little with paint to find a good match.
Sheps
04-29-2006, 12:23 PM
Only Sheps hates them! :)
But I hate everything. ;)
There's nothing wrong with the Omen. It is a great marker that will shoot ropes for you. They are generally low maintenance and once the reg breaks in the Recock almost becomes a non issue. I have 3 of them and they are a breeze to setup each time we go to the field. At this point I literally pull them out, air them up and chrono them. The detonator reg is so consistent that I rarely have to adjust them. The only time I have to re-adjust them is in colder weather.
Agreed, recock isn't going to be an issue as long as you take care of your marker and as long as you get your regulator broken in. The only possible problem is if the pressure in your tank drops really low (which should only be a problem with CO2) ideally you want to keep the pressure above 500 psi (or ~200+ psi above the regulator output pressure) so you don't get shootdown and recocking.
The only thing to be careful with is cheap paint. If the paint is too brittle the cams will sometimes break the paint. Though last time I went I bought Shrapnel paint at the field and we never had any problems. The Diablo Heat gave me some problems in them before. But at other fields we were able to shoot Heat all day. Experiment a little with paint to find a good match.
Agreed, mechanical ACS systems need thicker shelled paint, which isn't exactly suprising.
Now, that being said, the reason I "hate" the Omen is threefold:
Firstly, it's a very complex marker (mechanically speaking) and so there is a greater chance that an innacurately milled parts will bind, this isn't a major worry, and if you get an Omen and it works then your out of the woods; it's just something to consider. Another problem stemming from the mechanical complexity of the Omen is cyclical weight; which generally leads to greater amounts of vibration while firing at high ROF and can throw off you aim and make walking the trigger difficult, the exception to the rule of cyclical mass = vibration is closed bolt markers, which at low rates of fire will only have a portion of their mass moving at once (as the hammer and bolt move independantly); unfortunately this only works at low rates of fire though.
Secondly, the Omen doesn't compare too well with other markers in it's price range, both the Wrath and ION are excellent markers for less than the Omen, this used to be the other way around, with the Omen being less, but not anymore. As it stands, the Omen is still an excellent marker when compared to other blowbacks, it's just the technology is a little dated when compared with simplified, low price EP's. The one advantage the Omen does have in comparison to these EP's though, is that it is a lot harder to destroy, as there is no pneumatics hosing, barbs, or pneumatics solenoid to worry about; you can theoretically take the reg right off of an Omen and put 850 psi into it and it will not be seriously damaged, not that it's a good idea, mind you...
Thirdly, the entire design of the Omen revolves around the regulator, this is usually standard fare in a standard high-end, which is why high-ends aren't good in hands of newbies, but the Omen is basically a low-end; and so is to be expected to be a potential purchase for a newer paintballer. This is bad because the function and pecilurarities of a regulator are most likely not well understood by said newbie. This has the potential to cause a lot of grief, as the ability to recock and the action of the cam arms is more or less entirely dependant upon the input pressure of the marker. As a major plus the Omen has an Evil Detonator stock, which is an excellent regulator (as opposed to the horrible PMI regs that come on most other EVIL/PMI lower-end markers) and so the potential for the regulator to be a problem is limited only to the user's experience.
TL;DR version: The Omen is certainly not the worst deal ever (*cough*KingmanSpyderElectraACS2005*cough*), but suffers in comparison to other markers in it's price range.
vBulletin® v3.6.4, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.