Why does Nitro suck!?

[BadMr.Frosty]

well i put nitro on my gun and has all sorts of problems. the problems went from shoot down to regulator problems..tell me why my impy cant take nitro but works fine on CO2....ahhh wat fustration....

[Fearsys Player]

depending on what n2 system you have, some regs on the n2 are pretty crappy during rapid fire. then the other thing would be your dwell. did you set your dwell once you changed from co2 to n2?

[Richy_C]

Did you switch right from CO2 to nitro right away? You should wait a week.

[BadMr.Frosty]

i did wait a week to change from N2 to CO2 and right now ive just gotton fed up with this so i took it in to my local shop to reset the dwell for CO2. if u need to know i was using a crossfire "low pressure output" tank 68 4500 and it basically screwed up my max flo i think...thats why i took it in to the shop....i dont get it though it seems as if the impy can ONLY work well on CO2 and possibly if your lucky with nitro

[Fearsys Player]

they have done test when switching from n2 to co2. you can shoot both in the same day, just not mins after each other.

how old is your marker/maxflo. they need a break in period to get consistent fps. i only shoot w/n2 and have no problems. seems you just didn't set dwell correctly when switching. or you have a bad o-ring(s) in maxflo. you should have no problem using n2

[c0ck3r_b0i]

Originally posted by Richy_C
Did you switch right from CO2 to nitro right away? You should wait a week.
a whole week?...whoops...

[BadMr.Frosty]

its not a question of switching from CO2 to N2...the whole point im trying to make is i dont think impys can take n2 without messing up...this kid i know at my local field...well lets just say his bolt got dented and so did 2 other bolts of impulse users that were using N2 right off the back...my impy is brand new with a brand new max flo and its all messed up because of n2...now either were all morons who cant set dwells (were meaning all the people with impys at my field) or N2 isnt cool for the imp

[-RuShPB227-]

Imps dont have problems with N2...

[wolverine]

Originally posted by BadMr.Frosty
its not a question of switching from CO2 to N2...the whole point im trying to make is i dont think impys can take n2 without messing up...this kid i know at my local field...well lets just say his bolt got dented and so did 2 other bolts of impulse users that were using N2 right off the back...my impy is brand new with a brand new max flo and its all messed up because of n2...now either were all morons who cant set dwells (were meaning all the people with impys at my field) or N2 isnt cool for the imp

I have ONLY used my Impulse on N2 since the day I got it almost 2 years ago. Trust me when I say Impulses do NOT have a problem with N2.

How did his "bolt get dented"? Sorry man but this is just crazy talk. I have tried just about ever bolt that is made for the Impulse and not had a problem with any of them "getting dented".

[BadMr.Frosty]

well about the bolt being detented that was something the kid at the field said...your right it does sound like crazy talk...anyway so if you guys have been using N2 then what the heck am i doing wrong!?? i mean ive tried setting the dwell many times and i just cant do it all it does is give me shoot down and makes a weird noise when you rapid fire....damn it i bought a brand new tank and everything and i still wanna use N2 well please help me out here...oh and another thing my imp is very incosistent for some reason even on N2...any thoughts?

[ds613]

Maybe it's not giving a good enough flow to the maxflo since it's a low pressure output tank. Nitro really improved my
Impulse when I had it.

[Fearsys Player]

if you are getting shoot down and weird noises, then IT IS your dwell. the dwell is very very sensitive. a slight adjustment will go a longway.

before going any further, tell us the pressure you are running at and any type of add-ons or mods done to the marker?

[BadMr.Frosty]

ok my impy is stock at the moment and i changed the regular head of my tank to a higher pressure output and i still have the same problem the pressure on my max flow is about 180 im not sure see if u can help me set this pain in the arse

[FOM]

First of all, your problem is not "N2"-- your problem is the N2 tank you have been using. abount 95% of your problems would go away with a simple switch in tanks. I'd bet dollors to donunts that if you screwed in a Center Flag tank, you would be amaised at the difference.

Second-- You describe a "weird noise". My guess is this is the old "honking" problem we saw about a year ago. It is my guess that you or someone has somehow elimated the Flow Restrector from the air line.

What changes where made to the gun?

Depending on the gun you have, the AR is in the stright maco line fitting that goes into the gun or in the secrew that holds in the vertical adapter. I would bet that this has been changed

FOM

[ME]

i was wondering what that was they took it out at the store i was at when we put on the gadget grip should i put it back in the elbow at the gadget grip???

[AerichGoldwing]

It sounds to me that you didn't degas the reg fully before you took off the Co2, and then when you plugged in the nitro the reg was already set to something other than zero, so the sudden burst of pressure damaged something. You should always degas the maxflow before you take off a tank, and when you put it on, the reg should be unscrewed. Then when the tank is on, that is when you pressurize. You probably knew to do that, but just in case.

[johnnyrotten]

ds613 was absolutely correct in saying a low pressure reg can not keep up with the Max-flo, get you a hyper-flo 420 reg and watch the problems go away.

As far as the bolts being dented, I think they must have dented they're heads if they say N2 did that. Listen to these message boards and not your uninformed friends, if you get misinformation here, someone usually corrects them pronto

[wolverine]

Originally posted by ME
i was wondering what that was they took it out at the store i was at when we put on the gadget grip should i put it back in the elbow at the gadget grip???

Yes, it's not a toster that has spare parts in it!! :D That is the flow restrictor and is there for a reason.

[BadMr.Frosty]

yep im sending my imp to SP and have them deal with the problem...turns out now theres a leak in the Max Flo and apparently my dwell is messed up and i have no other choice because i cant set my gun...oh well thanx for the help anyway

[Fearsys Player]

let us know what was wrong when you get it back.

--scott

[AnOnYmOuS]

The impulse is not ment to have nitrogen in it in the first place.

[-RuShPB227-]

what u been smoking anonymous? lol. Imps can take C02, but just as well take nitro.

[wolverine]

Originally posted by AnOnYmOuS
The impulse is not ment to have nitrogen in it in the first place.

That is just plan WRONG. Sorry dude but you got some bad information somewhere along the way.

[johnnyrotten]

Do you mean that after 2 years with my Imp, I will have to convert to CO2, OH BOY!!! now I can freeze my hands when Im rapid firing and watch the variances in the weather change how fast or slow my Impy shoots. Why didnt I do this before:dunce: Just kidding. If you play 10 man, or cant afford a N2 system, CO2 will work just fine, but I play 5 man and a 68/4500 does me just fine, I just dont like the headaches of CO2........... sorry

[BadMr.Frosty]

I got my impy back and im still having the same problem...so....im trading this gun in and buying myself a Bob Long Intimidator....oh well i guess i just gave up too easy....but i dont think no gun is worth THIS much trouble...but thanx for the help you guys

[johnnyrotten]

are you still using that low pressure crossfire? If so, I can almost guarantee thats the problem, not enough air flow

[The Legend]

Ew, dump that crossfire and get a real tank.

Johnny- Get on aim!:)

[BadMr.Frosty]

i did change the regulator head for higher pressure and i still had the same problem but right now i could care less because im happy with my new timmy..:D

[BadMr.Frosty]

well i really messed up....the timmy...well it works fine...but its not for me....so i traded it back for my impy...THIS TIME i wont give up on it.....if all goes down the drain ill trade that in for a new impulse and go from there...thanx for the help guys

[Spec]

Last Sunday i was playing and i was using a Co2 with an Anti-Syphon Tank. When i was rapid fireing the reg. gets Cold?y?

[cardbordwarrior]

would my pmi pure engery tank suffice for a bit or am i going to have problems too when i get my imp.

[BadMr.Frosty]

my advice have someone set the dwell that actually knows wat there doing, and get urself a NON lower pressure output tank if all else fails and the gun doesnt work like mine did then call SP tech support im defiantly sure they will help

[chynzexguy]

that's funny, i use the same crossfire tank as you do on a model98. I have my pressure set at 375 psi and i run fine with not shoot down on rapid fire with my rt

[The Legend]

Originally posted by chynzexguy
that's funny, i use the same crossfire tank as you do on a model98. I have my pressure set at 375 psi and i run fine with not shoot down on rapid fire with my rt

Theres a huge difference between what a 98 needs for flow, and what an Impulse needs for flow.

[chynzexguy]

when i say rapid fire i mean 13bps with a rt trigger, i get no shoot down

[Impy4335]

um, this is the Impulse forum, not the Model98 forum. Here is the link for it:

http://www.pbreview.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=72


and like they said
your gun:375
Impy: 180 big difference. we dont care about your model98, this is a problem with an IMPULSE

[chynzexguy]

hey calm down, im just trying to prove my point. I dont think it the tank, thats all im saying.

[mr. lobster]

um yea, maybe you think wrong, not that m98's aren't good for their purpose :rolleyes: but I wouldn't be comparing your m98 to an impulse, you just can't get much more different. So I wouldn't give people advice on a marker you know nothing about, especially not in their own forum...

[chynzexguy]

my friend has a ratpulse and he uses my tank on his gun, no prob.The reason i brought up my 98 is because i just wanted to show that the tank has no shoot down. i wasn't comparing the guns. if you read his posts you can see that he uses the sam tank as me.

BTW: I actually like impulses. planning to get a rat jr with my next pay check

[mr. lobster]

my apologies, just sounded for a sec like you didn't know what you were talking about, cuz i know couple guys like that with 98's (ok so i like my stereotypes....)I would agree with you as well that in general those tanks are probly pretty good, maybe he got crap one or something :|

[chynzexguy]

no prob, hey i was just wondering if the rat jr's come with adjustable triggers?

[The Legend]

Yes they do.

[Gibralter]

I am a little confused on the tank part. Can i use a Crossfire 68/3000 that i use for my spyder on my future impulse??

Sorry. I used all my brains up in school today.:|

[chynzexguy]

well i have a new crossfire tank, the one with really high flow and it seems to work on my friends rat,but i dunno if it'll work on a old crossfire tank

[Gibralter]

Well my tank is very new; ive had it for like a week and a half.

[pbrulez]

Ok here is the deal. Crossfire makes regulators preset to 2 different output pressures. One is around 800-850 and the other is around 400-450. For an impulse dont get the low pressure one. You want the 800-850 tank. My friend used a crossfire 68\3000 800-850 tank and loved it. He saw dramatic changes in consistency over c02. I have a crossfire tank for my matrix(which i might ad rocks) and i love it.

[Gibralter]

Ok, thanks alot pbrulez

[JDub]

will a PMI 68/45 tank work good on a impulse?

[pbrulez]

Probably. whats the output pressure of the reg?

[chynzexguy]

why wont the crossfire preset 450 not work? my friend has no prob with my tank

[johnnyrotten]

There is not enough flow for it to run correctly. The Tippy Rt maxed out has 8 bps, I dont care what they advertise, I put it on a meter and 8 BPS was all I could get out of it. You really dont have enough pressure into the reg to make the o-rings seat properly, the Max-flo reg is one of the best around under the right conditions, but it needs high pressure to properly self regulate.

[BadMr.Frosty]

Originally posted by johnnyrotten
the Max-flo reg is one of the best around under the right conditions, but it needs high pressure to properly self regulate.



well then how come when i put on a low pressure output tank it works...but then lets say if i try to screw in high pressure tank it suddenly starts to leak from the max flow?

[The Legend]

Were does it leak from?

The tanks could have two different length pins, that can cause a leak.

You could have not installed the HP one correctly.

You could have flooded the max with too much air at one time with the HP tank. Gas up the max flow slowly.


Theres plenty of things that could affect it, what were the two tanks you used.

[BadMr.Frosty]

the leak starts where you screw in the tank...the two different tanks im using is a Crossfire 68/4500 (low pressure output) and the other tank i used was a PMI 38/3,000

[The Legend]

The pin on one of the tanks is longer than the other. This causes the valve to open quicker and leak out air. Then you have to screw it in fast to stop from leaking, and you gas up the max too quick.

Theres your answer:)

[randyruns]

Silly Boy, be calm,,impy is a great gun, so is a timmy..be calm ,,,,send impy to the RATS...let king rat johnny fix it and then your impy will rule...why do you fools want to toy with things you cant fix,,,just because you are a hot paintballer doesnt mean you know everything,,,let the guys who do it for a living fix the gun right,,,,that includes the king rats,,,and guys like bob long. it costs $20 to send imp to the rats plus their fee and then gun will be right...learn to delegate,,,you shoot and rule,,,they fix and make gun run....be calm.......randy in az

[BadMr.Frosty]

Good advice.......:eyes: