The BEST Tippman Barrel

[Woodball_Rookie]

Hey guys i just got my Tippman Custom Pro and was wondering what barrell you guys recommend? Im a big woodsball player and looking for the most accurate barrel i could get (rapid fire not a huge deal, more accuracy). I was thinking a flatline but please give me info

[iliveforthis99]

I'll have to say a cp one piece or j&j ceramic.

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A Kit. Pipe, Edge, and Freak are all low to moderate cost barrel kits.

[Woodball_Rookie]

ohh so you dont recommend a flatline? I heard good things about a j&j ceramic. i wanna be more accurate, sniper like. more info would be appreciated

[Elite virus]

Apex.

[Imagine24]

If you want range and sacrafice some accuracy get a Flatline/Apex, if you want normal range and very accurate get a J&J Ceramics they are very nice barrels. They also don't cost a lot which is nice.

[Woodball_Rookie]

arite so it looks like a jj ceramic?

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If your pressed for cash, yes. If your feild lets you bring your own paint, yes. If you HAVE to buy different paint everytime you go, and want super accuracy, you need a kit to get the best paint/bore match you can get. A J&J Cermaic is a great barrel, but a Kit would handle different paint better. Heck, the Edge Kit is made by the same people who make the Ceramic...

[no_pain_no fun]

flatelines suck!!! even more so on 98's

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Yea, THe Flatlines sorta suck. If you want Range, get the APEX. It has better settings for Drop and Curve, and it can be turned off if you want a Regular barrel. The Flatline only looks good with a Solid Stock, while the Apex looks great no matter what else you have on your gun..

APEX is also just screw and go, while the Flatline needs this everytime... Courtesy of Stan, I assume The Hitman. ;)

HERE YA GO FOO! (http://www.thegreedy.com/videos/Flatlineinstalation.swf)

[xtreme pballer]

Actually i think the Flatline is the best barrel for a 98. It costs more and doesn't look very good but in woodsball it shoots about 50ft farther than any other barrel. Not as accurate as others but great range. And you dont have to assemble it every time you play just leave it on there.Great for sniper.

[..!..('_')..!..]

Well thats super if you have a huge arse gear bag... I can barely fit my Custom, Tank, Hopper, Pod and harness, Tool Kit, and Regular barrel in mine, and mines pretty big... And what good is range if you cant hit something at that range?

[rawker]

Actually i think the Flatline is the best barrel for a 98. It costs more and doesn't look very good but in woodsball it shoots about 50ft farther than any other barrel. Not as accurate as others but great range. And you dont have to assemble it every time you play just leave it on there.Great for sniper.


yeah, but for that extra 50 feet, it moves so slow you can catch the paintball.

[rsotojun]

Actually i think the Flatline is the best barrel for a 98. It costs more and doesn't look very good but in woodsball it shoots about 50ft farther than any other barrel. Not as accurate as others but great range. And you dont have to assemble it every time you play just leave it on there.Great for sniper.

I agree with xtreme here, the flatline will give you more range then any other barrel guaranteed, but its as accurate as say a progressive or jj. The flatline will give you such a straight shot that the ball seems like its moving slow. With Hpa the barrel becomes very accurate. I would'nt reccomend this barrel unless you had or are planning to get hpa. Problem is they're expensive, msrp does for 125, but my brother got his on ebay 60 plus 20 shipping. Also if you like a more real looking gun, then you like the look of this barrel, it makes your gun look like a G3A3 assualt rifle

[ICU117]

I did a test the other day between my flatline and apex, for accuracy. I shot at a round cardboard pizza target 16" wide for both. I fired 15 shots with each. I was sitting down at a table, to make sure it wasn't me. The apex was more accurate with a shot grouping of 4", while the flatline was 6.5" wide. Everyone knows its longer range, I haven't done extensive testing with longer ranges, but id bet that apex would be better for the job as a sniper.

[Screwball]

Personally, I love my Flatline. I wouldn't trade it for anything else. I only have a few differences in opinion with some of the comments made in this thread. I'm only putting in my two cents, so please don't take anything I'm going to say as an attack on anyone here.

flatelines suck!!! even more so on 98's

I really don't see why people always say they suck. I feel if someone doesn't like it, they would give reasons behind why the think they suck. Lately, I believe it is more of a bandwagon instead of people that have a legitimate problem with the barrel.

yeah, but for that extra 50 feet, it moves so slow you can catch the paintball.

I've yet to see anyone catch one fired at them. I've heard people say they do it all the time, but it seems to me to be more bulls*** than truth. There is a bigger chance of it bouncing off, but that happens with all barrels at further ranges. If anything, paint bouncing off someone that far away will get their attention and possibly make them confused.

With Hpa the barrel becomes very accurate. I would'nt reccomend this barrel unless you had or are planning to get hpa.

The Flatline doesn't work well without a constant output gas. The consistency is needed for the best results. I run a Nitro Duck tank to a remote, then into another regulator (and an expansion chamber, but it is only because I never took it off), and finally into the gun. I checked the velocity with different rates of fire and number of rounds shot in succession. At the most, there is a 6fps change in my guns velocity. That may not seem like a big deal, but it is a world of a difference for a Flatline.

I did a test the other day between my flatline and apex, for accuracy. I shot at a round cardboard pizza target 16" wide for both. I fired 15 shots with each. I was sitting down at a table, to make sure it wasn't me. The apex was more accurate with a shot grouping of 4", while the flatline was 6.5" wide. Everyone knows its longer range, I haven't done extensive testing with longer ranges, but id bet that apex would be better for the job as a sniper.

This is where people seem to get confused. Accuracy is mainly a result of the shooter, not the gun or barrel. These results will differ between people and even barrels since I'm guessing the variables cannot always be the same. It isn't the problem with the test, but yet the fact that not every person is the same.

With all that being said, I feel that choosing a barrel should be based on style of play and how you maintain your gear. If you play woodsball only, then a Flatline is good, but if you play speedball (once in a while or all the time), then look at a regular type of barrel or system. If you keep your gun in top order all the time (I don't mean just cleaning it, but if you work on consistency and things of that nature), then a Flatline would work. If you just wipe the gun down after playing and throw it under your bed, then look at a regular barrel. Take a complete look at how you play and how much time you put into your gun, and you can get an idea on what is good for you. Any barrel will work just as long as you get all the other stuff down as well.

[theunstoppable9]

i wouldnt go with a jand j because its really large bore id go with a cp 16 inch

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Not quoteing any of my points? Just stick that knife in and twist it why dont you...
Flatlines are also picky on paint. If your for some demented reason going to enter a tourney with a Flatty, it would suck because most places make you buy their paint. And if you have a break in your barrel, forget it. Your done.

[Screwball]

Not quoteing any of my points? Just stick that knife in and twist it why dont you...
Flatlines are also picky on paint. If your for some demented reason going to enter a tourney with a Flatty, it would suck because most places make you buy their paint. And if you have a break in your barrel, forget it. Your done.

Just so you don't feel left out. ;)

And I completely agree about the tournament topic. I would only suggest a Flatline for a woodsball gun. It is too long and sensitive for that type of play.

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And it needs a Stock for any looking cool factor.

[OrangeBatman]

i wouldnt go with a jand j because its really large bore id go with a cp 16 inch
most j&j barrels are .688 and .689. medium bore size, not large, know what your talking about before posting

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Sir, you have just been pwned. In addition, your intelegence is lacking and your personal Hygene is poor.

[slingshot66]

Hi

They have a saying about the Flatline. Long range trashcan wide.

Flatline. It shoots about 100 feet futher then any other barrel. You need to run good paint in it. Side to Side Accuracy isn't that good. Range is great.

It shoots flat stand back at a distance with tree branches over your head a little out in front of you and at longer ranges other barrels cant hit you because they lob in due to the arch. You shoot flat you can hit them. If there down over a bankment you can only hit them when they lift there head. Flatline shoots straight over them. regular barrel at 50 feet arch once your see them and they duck you can still shoot them alot of time because of the arch.

You have to play and think with how your barrel works.

I have both a Flatline and a Empire barrel kit. I find I use the barrel kit more. It wont shoot as far but right to left it is pin point.

If I can reach the target I can hit it with in 2 shots.
Flatline 75 feet shooting at a person beside a tree it will throw paint in a 15 inch side to side pattern. Only luck if you hit them. If you dont hit them on the first or second shot they duck.

Flatline with e-grip long range you can keep a whole squard down while your team moves in.

Your barrel depends on how you like to play.


I like to get in your face. Full auto up close. Barrel kit is the way to go.

My daughter we call carwash, She likes to stand back and spray. She wont use any thing but a Flatline. And she has taken many people out this way.

What barrel is best for you????

You are the only one who knows.

Hope this helps.

[iamceb]

I say the best barrel is the flatline or the smartparts liener barrel.

[Woodball_Rookie]

Hey thanks guys for all the help. i think im gonna go with a jj ceramic 16' barrel. Its seems to have really good reviews. Im looking for good/great accuracy and ok/good range. I think the flatlines not for me, lil pricy, requires expensive balls and i dont really need that kind of range. Im most likely shootin from midrange so i just wanted accuracy. Anymore suggestions welcomed

[Kung_fu_hippe]

IMO the most accurate barrel on the market is a Dye ultralite.

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No. A Stock barrel from a Brass eagle could be better than an UltraLite if the Brass Eagle had perfect paint to bore match and the Dye had balls way too big or way too small for it. Its just That the Dye can accept different Inserts... Thats all...

[SicilianFool]

And if you have a break in your barrel, forget it. Your done.
I have a flatline for my A-5 and I know alot of people think that if a ball breaks in the barrel there is no way you can clean it on the field, but personally I have found squeeges [and not pull throughs] that will fit right throughthe barrel right to the detents getting all the paint out

http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/2919/ (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/../products/reviews/2919/)

Just my input though

[Screwball]

I have a flatline for my A-5 and I know alot of people think that if a ball breaks in the barrel there is no way you can clean it on the field, but personally I have found squeeges [and not pull throughs] that will fit right throughthe barrel right to the detents getting all the paint out

http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/2919/ (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/../products/reviews/2919/)

Just my input though

I was at the D-Day game about two weeks ago at Skirmish. While I was looking around at the Tippmann trailer, a guy came by saying that he got a squeegee stuck in his Flatline. It was that same exact one as you posted. As he was pushing it down the barrel, it snapped right around where the flex is (didn't get that great of view on how it broke off). He had a 98 Flatline, so I'm not sure if there is less of a chance of it happening with the A-5 Flatline. Just giving a heads up to be a little careful with that.

[TeeNWoodballa]

yeah, but for that extra 50 feet, it moves so slow you can catch the paintball.
well at least u can hit a person another 50 feet as any other barrel u coudlnt even hit them. who cares if it moves slow if it the ball breaks he's out

..!..('_')..!.. [/B]]And it needs a Stock for any looking cool factor.

looking cool isnt a factor for playing or accuracy in paintball

[..!..('_')..!..]

looking cool isnt a factor for playing or accuracy in paintball

No freaking way! Then why do I have a $1000 Paintjob and TOns of stickers on my gun? I thought the Color made it faster and the Stickers increased accuracy... :dodgy: Looking cool dosent do anything for accuracy. I never said that. Smearing Poop and Barf on your marker dosent affect accuracy either... So you do that. If you say looks dont do anything you are teh n00b like you are.

I have a flatline for my A-5 and I know alot of people think that if a ball breaks in the barrel there is no way you can clean it on the field, but personally I have found squeeges [and not pull throughs] that will fit right throughthe barrel right to the detents getting all the paint out

http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/2919/ (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/../products/reviews/2919/)

Just my input though

And yes. I ment the 98 Flatline. Its not as good and it just seems to take breaks worse...

[TeeNWoodballa]

omg chillax i was saying looks dont affect ur skillz not ur popularity

[SicilianFool]

I was at the D-Day game about two weeks ago at Skirmish. While I was looking around at the Tippmann trailer, a guy came by saying that he got a squeegee stuck in his Flatline. It was that same exact one as you posted. As he was pushing it down the barrel, it snapped right around where the flex is (didn't get that great of view on how it broke off). He had a 98 Flatline, so I'm not sure if there is less of a chance of it happening with the A-5 Flatline. Just giving a heads up to be a little careful with that.

Truthfully the saem thing happened on my friend 98, it seems that it only works for the A-5. Come to think of it I do only see A-5 users doing this, ya i guess i would have to say I recommend this only on the A-5

[triggapull]

empire twister

[rawker]

well at least u can hit a person another 50 feet as any other barrel u coudlnt even hit them. who cares if it moves slow if it the ball breaks he's out



looking cool isnt a factor for playing or accuracy in paintball


like a paintball moving 1/2MPH is gonna break.:rolleyes:

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All im saying is even though looks dont affect performance in the way that HPA or a new Hopper or Regulator does, it has a Psycological Factor. What would you rather drive? a 'Vette with a beautiful Candy Apple Red paintjob or a 'Vette with Poop Green paint splattered with Brown and yellow chunks with the words "GIANT HUMAN CONDOM" Written in Yellow spray paint on the side, all while having 10 huge dents/holes from getting rammed by Tractor Trailors? You would feel better with the First one, and you would try to make the second one look better...

[ace6160]

No. A Stock barrel from a Brass eagle could be better than an UltraLite if the Brass Eagle had perfect paint to bore match and the Dye had balls way too big or way too small for it. Its just That the Dye can accept different Inserts... Thats all...


I thought it was pretty well known that paint to barrel match doesn't really have an effect on accuracy. The only use it has is to hold paint from falling out on a closed bolt gun.

For example, a .693 cp one piece would shoot just as well on a tippmann as a .689 barrel would using .689 paint.

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But the Tighter the fit the less blowby, blowby is bad becuase it needs more gas to propel the ball the same distance since some of the gas is wasted. That may cause Turbulence and make the ball curve in weird angles... If Paint to bore match dosnet meen much, why dont most pros just use the Stok barrels of their guns? Why buy kits? To eliminate Blowby...
Hopefully he'll buy that becuase Im sorta lost... lol

[ace6160]

But the Tighter the fit the less blowby, blowby is bad becuase it needs more gas to propel the ball the same distance since some of the gas is wasted. That may cause Turbulence and make the ball curve in weird angles... If Paint to bore match dosnet meen much, why dont most pros just use the Stok barrels of their guns? Why buy kits? To eliminate Blowby...
Hopefully he'll buy that becuase Im sorta lost... lol


Well people don't use stock since the inside finish makes such a difference. The better the inside finish, the better the accuracy.

I remember hearing of at least a couple people who played professionally who had to use a kit since that's what their sponsers gave them, but just used the .693 back.

I can think of many experiments and studies showing how paint to barrel makes no difference, but can think of no tests showing the benefits of a good match.

[..!..('_')..!..]

No. Im just going with that. If Air goes if the ball is a bit not circular then more air would go up one side of the ball then the other. That would push more toward one side and the side with more air would make the ball curve that way. If you use a kit, the misshapen ball would have a tighter fit caussing less blowby. Its simple pysics...

[Ethan211]

No. Im just going with that. If Air goes if the ball is a bit not circular then more air would go up one side of the ball then the other. That would push more toward one side and the side with more air would make the ball curve that way. If you use a kit, the misshapen ball would have a tighter fit caussing less blowby. Its simple pysics...

QFT, paint to barrel match is the single most important factor in paintball accuracy, period. Maybe tourney paint is all big ball, I don't know, but those pro guys you know probably only use the .693 back to help prevent ball breaks; accuracy with any smaller paint will suffer, but when you can shoot 20+ bps accuracy by volume also comes into play.

[synkronics]

lapco bigshot or cp 1 piece

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Or J&J...

[Elfasto]

So far my Smart Parts 20" is working quite well, but I do find the stock barrel just fine for close quarters/thick bush.

[Elfasto]

Double post. My bad.

[rawker]

all the 20 inch barrel does is slow the ball down. get a 14 inch one.

[..!..('_')..!..]

So far my Smart Parts 20" is working quite well, but I do find the stock barrel just fine for close quarters/thick bush.

Your an 04er and theres 2 thing wrong with your statement... Can any of you kids at home find them? If you do scream real loud!

[Elfasto]

Your an 04er and theres 2 thing wrong with your statement...

I'm a what?:eyes:

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04=From 2004=Not Noobish.

What I ment was that 20" dont do anything except slow stuff down, and the stock barrel is only good as fire pokers. Heck, even then the fire gets too close...

[Elfasto]

Eh, well, perhaps, but I do find that it works well for me.

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Whatever Rubs your Buddaha...

[Elfasto]

Whatever Rubs your Buddaha...

And my Buddah says tiptoe like an elephant running on jello.:D

[The Black Kid]

use a straw or look at the reviews

[Elfasto]

use a straw or look at the reviews


STFU.

[snipe u now!!!]

you say you want to be "sniper" like? No such thing as a snper in
paintball. Its called stock class. buy a Phantom. it will teach you how to be
"sniper like." Phantoms are pumps in case you didn't know. I own one, trust me, they rock.