Paintball Guns and Real Guns

[OscarMyerWeener]

There are a lot of people out there that do not like the sport paintball. People that want to make paintball illegal. This idea may seem foriegn to you or unuasual, but it is true. I know that making a paintball gun look like a real gun sounds fun and many people have done it or thought about it, but is it worth losing the sport. I enjoy customizing my gun, but I won't make it look like a real gun because I love the sport and I like playing for fun and challenge. I don't play for looks. So next time you think about making a paintball gun look like a real gun think about all of those who really love the sport. Also just a little thin don't buy red paint. It may be cool but again people who don't appreciate paintball use that against us. I know I will probably get a lot of grief from this, but try to understand where I am coming form. Thank you!

[mork321]

ya people, in case you haven't noticed our sport is slowly starting to fall apart, we really need to take this message seriously.

[NSUCK]

the only people that bash it are people that dont play... (kinda sounds like our legal system) and the sport is not falling apart in any means at all... youve prolly noticed a growing number of people in these forums.. its not only due to the site getting popular but more so lots of people taking that first hard step INTO the sport.. (yes the first step is the hardest) after that its all smoooth

[mork321]

the only problem I'm seeing right now is that they are trying to regulate the laws on paintball and I think that will eventually evolve into paintball being banned all together. That is unless we do something about it.

[AK47]

I don't think it will be banned unless its found to be unsafe. To get paintball rolling, we need to make it seem like a harmless sport. I mean not to give kids the idea of shooting guns at other people won't hurt them.

[FrOnTMaN]

or selling jerkass's 30 doller guns at halloween. saves his lunch money for 3 weeks, goes to genericmart. buys a gun. shoots up his neighborhood. legislative passed. people with markers are frowned upon and thought of as trouble makers.

[cardbordwarrior]

you no what i have to say those who are against it?
play or shut up.the sport is accutally growing more and in fact not fallin apart.i dought paintball will get banned.im sick of these people who never try but whine.

[FrOnTMaN]

its such a clear situation of ignorance. i mean if it happened the paintball community would have soooo much to fight back with

[mork321]

I guess you guys are right and now that I think about it, if they do regulate the paintball laws it might help make paintball into a spectator sport.

[MINDofSIN]

I like guns. If I could make my STS look like an Mp-5 submachine gun for a decent price I would probably do it.

I have a love for firearms.

[Lavahead]

Modifying your gun to look like a real firearm is just a cosmetic upgrade, it doesn't improve performance. I'd much rather spend my cash on upgrades to make a totally wacked-out super gun than just add some some extra weight to haul around all day, with no benefits at all.

[2k1AngelShooter]

Has anyone tried approaching, emailing or petition wal-mart and places like that to atleast advise parents that it is against the law for their kids to go out and shoot crap. How bout this, make a pamphelet that they alteast have to give to everyone who buys a paintball gun at such places?

[Torf]

Originally posted by mork321
I guess you guys are right and now that I think about it, if they do regulate the paintball laws it might help make paintball into a spectator sport.

Sorry, but government regulation has never helped anything. Let alone sports.

In many peoples minds, paintball will never be seperated from real guns. Just appreciate that Firearms rights organizations are indirectly protecting paintball as well. It's called the 'Halo Effect'.

Paintball will never be banned unless we let it, and it is not Guns faults, it is idiots faults. Bad grammer I know.

[UTLadiesMan]

Originally posted by Torf
Sorry, but government regulation has never helped anything.


HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

You are so full of it.

I offer one example, and one example alone:
read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair.


**EDIT - It is quite long, so just read chapter 14.

http://www.online-literature.com/upton_sinclair/jungle/14/

[Torf]

Originally posted by UTLadiesMan



HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

You are so full of it.

I offer one example, and one example alone:
read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair.


**EDIT - It is quite long, so just read chapter 14.

http://www.online-literature.com/upton_sinclair/jungle/14/

Whatever, I read that in college. It was written by a Communist, with a pro-communist point of view. :rolleyes:

Anyway, meat-packing is not a sport, and I am not going to argue unions, capitalism or anything else at this time. These things all had their place during the industrial revolution, but equating this with laws and limitations on paintball is absolutely ridiculous.

If that is your only example, then Ha Ha yourself. :crazy:

[OscarMyerWeener]

Originally posted by Lavahead
Modifying your gun to look like a real firearm is just a cosmetic upgrade, it doesn't improve performance. I'd much rather spend my cash on upgrades to make a totally wacked-out super gun than just add some some extra weight to haul around all day, with no benefits at all.
I totaly agree with this! Stop arguing and start discussing.

[133+ Player]

How could paintball be banned.... I think there are a lot more white trash sports that will be banned first. Can we say WWF Wrestling? All this back yard crap is killing the sport that will go first. By then if we are carful we can get all the support and defense we need to keep it legal. Just watch as that sport is deteralized and see how they do it. Then we can stand up for ourselves later.

[Meph]

The customization of paintball guns to look like firearms, or the wearing of military camoflauge, or calling paintballs "bullets" and eliminations "kills" is NOT what hurts the sport, or it's image. Especially considering 95% of the paintball populations' image is included in wearing camo. Only about 2% of paintball players actually play tournaments, they are not the image of paintball only the image of the professional circuit. The other 3% are just newbies that wear Jerseys and carry chrome guns in the woods thinking they rule!

Now what ACTUALLY hurts the sports overall image? Paintball drive bys. Robberies with paintball guns. Vandalism with paintball guns. You know, the things that 99.999% of this paintball community does not agree with and usually rally against.

Also, the NPPL hurts our sport, but I'll get into that another time.

When these types of events happen, we need spokespeople for the sport. The NRA has spokepeople, it's time there's an organization with lobyists for paintball. The people that will speak up and knock down these acts, to disassociate these types of people with our sport.

Also, with this organization, I think what needs to be done foremost is ban paintball on public land, and restrict it to designated playing facilities. As in places that are actually insured. Sorry, but paintball should not be played on public land to begin with due to safety concerns of other innocent people. With this, make the law for using the equipment in public property stiff as to discourage people from eving thinking about using them. And with it, make is to the law states it's okay to carry equipment around on the public property, in your car... but the equpiment must be disassembled. Meaning barrel off gun, tank off gun, possibly even to have the tank empty within public property.

With this, strict laws enforcing paintball on public land will be enforced, causing a cut down of of the drive bys and such with paintball equipment. And then in turn if they do happen, the lobyists can say "We support the law, which is why we have designated insured playing fields". With that, it will show that we, the paintball community, is a very respectful, mature group of people looking out for ourselves and the well being of other people.

There's a lot more explaining I can do, but I think I've done enough already.

[Meph]

Originally posted by Torf


Sorry, but government regulation has never helped anything. Let alone sports.

I have so many examples of where you are wrong. However, I'll give just one.

The Post office, they are a legal monopoly. However, restrictions from the government is why stamp prices are only $0.34 If there were no restrictions, they would be able to charge any price they want.

Every single time they want to raise prices, they must propose/ask if they can before doing so.

[bob of bobs]

this is becoming a bigger problem paintball is already banned or restricted in some states we need to think of a way to keep the guns out of the hands of stupid people that just make trouble with them

[coyote]

Torf read, but didn't comprehend...

Sinclairs book is historically accurate. Some research will prove that. I have no desire to push that any further.

If I don't miss my guess it is illegal in many states to sell a marker to a minor. It should be. If you are a kid your parents should be involved in painball purchases.

After that our greatest enemy is misuse and bad attitudes. There are many good things used for evil purposes. If you know someone who is irresponsible or dangerous you should make sure the right people know. If we don't we will become our own worst enemy.

[2k1AngelShooter]

I agree with Meph 100 percent...perhaps more than that. We do need an organization, with spokespeople and lobbyist. Heck, if that were to start up, I'd move and work for them in a heartbeat!!!

[coyote]

Isn't it sad...

That people will have to burn time effort and money to protect something as safe as paintball? I my years of balling I have never had to help a hurt player off the field. How many sports can boast that? Damn few.

It would be nice to work in that kind of environment though. I could be passionate about that.

[2k1AngelShooter]

I agree tottaly. As a gov major at Sac State, I'm going to end up lobbying for somebody (or running...eventually) why not make it paintball you know?

[Codestar20]

I agree with you guy. Think of it this way. If a kid walks into a walmart/kmart and buys a paintball gun to shoot up houses and people want to ban it, they should try and ban toilet paper and eggs too. Lots of kids use those to vandalize houses too. As some of you said before, the only people who want paintball banned do not play it.