Run-in with the cops

[Killer_Demo]

Well yesterday we were suiting up outside waiting for our ride to pick us up and then this cop pulls up and tells us to drop our guns, he grabbed my friend's BRAND NEW 2002 cocker and almost drops it to the concrete because he slipped the shard off, then my friend tried to call someone and he grabbed his cellphone and threw it at my friend real hard. Typical police bull****.

[ciaran.mooney]

Might be an idea to keep your markes under some t-shirt or keep them in a bag or summin.

DONT BRING THEM OUT IN PUBLIC! You'll scare the ****e out of people.

[ferret0123]

This is big issue that i think we need to tackle. Paintball guns, although not real guns are weapons and are considerd air rifles.
Police DO NOT have a right to take your gun from you if your on youre own property and are not threatening/causeing problems/drunk. Iin a public place on on the road is totllay different. I dont knoe the rules for that. If someone does let me know.

[jaronervin]

That is wrong, especially if you were on your property. They aren't weapons, and I don't think they need to be concealed. Besides your *self*, nothing is illegal to be exposed to the public, I don't think. In fact, its illegal to conceal weapons. If the police find paintball markers to be weapons, they should thank you for carrying them in the open! But seriously, I'm pretty sure a cop can never do that, unless he thought it was a real gun. But he shouldn't have acted like that.

[ferret0123]

Well they are weapons maybe not classified as real guns. If you conceal weapons you need a concealed weapons permit. I agree about what you said at the end. Cops abuse their power alot. They need to read the constitution sometimes.

[133+ Player]

Sounds like some Bull to me

[Killer_Demo]

You know how the shard if you pull hard enough comes off? Well he started to yank it away from my friend a it ALMOST dropped, then the cop has enough gut to take my friends phone away because he was trying to call his dad, then he says "dont call anybody till I'am done with you"

[ferret0123]

Where do you live that this happens.....sounds like a bid city or in redneckville

[THE_Cobra58]

i woulda asked that pig for his name and while your at it grab his car #

[ciaran.mooney]

The policeman thought you had a LETHAL weapon, he is gonna do everything he can to make sure that you cant harm anyone. Even though you wouldn't he didnt know and acted as was appropriate.

If he had broken your marker then the police should pay for its repair or replacement.

[ferret0123]

police schould know the difference between real guns and paintball guns.

[ciaran.mooney]

Why should they? Its not like a very large majority of the american population plays paintball.

[weefek]

right. they are trained to know the differences and stuff. that cop sucks, call the station and report him.

[ciaran.mooney]

They are trained to recognise firearms - and what do paintball markers look like, especially summin like a tippman and possibly a cocker, firearms.

I'd be pissed off but the policeman was doing his job, protecting the public from what he thought was danger.

[ferret0123]

Even if he thought that they were real guns. He should have gave it back when you said it was a paintball gun.

then my friend tried to call someone and he grabbed his cellphone and threw it at my friend real hard. Typical police bull****. [/B]

The above is assualt. You could sue and have the cop arrested over that. Throwing cellphones at people is a no-no :finger:

[Killer_Demo]

Originally posted by ferret0123
Where do you live that this happens.....sounds like a bid city or in redneckville

Does California sound redneckville to you???

[Killer_Demo]

Originally posted by ferret0123
Even if he thought that they were real guns. He should have gave it back when you said it was a paintball gun.



The above is assualt. You could sue and have the cop arrested over that. Throwing cellphones at people is a no-no :finger:

They are soooo brave when its someone smaller than they are, always harassing us.

[ferret0123]

What do you mean by the california/redneckville comment?

[ferret0123]

Ohhhhhhhhh, youre the guy that posted at the beginning sorry

[Killer_Demo]

the place where I live there are hardly any white people so no its not redneckville

[weefek]

i doubt that's what he thought.

[Killer Kat]

Originally posted by Killer_Demo


Does California sound redneckville to you???


Originally posted by Killer_Demo

the place where I live there are hardly any white people so no its not redneckville

Does the name "Rodney King" ring a bell? I can see traces of police bullies here.

[jaronervin]

I agree that the officer could've thought that it was a gun. However, you were on private property, with no intention of injuring anyone. He should've asked what was going on before he reacted.

[AK47]

You can yell at him if you want but remeber HE has the power.

[jaronervin]

Thats the issue here. The cops have the power, and they abuse it way too often! If most people were more informed of their rights, this kind of thing wouldn't happen.

[AK47]

What the hell are you going to do to a cop? They'll arrest you and you get ****ed over. My advice don't start with them cuz you'll never win. Plus they'll luagh at you when you are doing community service.

[jaronervin]

Once again, AK47, you have pinpointed the problem. Apparently, you honestly believe your statement. I am not trying to criticize you, because that is what most people think. But, WE HAVE RIGHTS. Rights guaranteed by the Constitution. If someone doesn't stand up for our rights, cops will keep on walking over people like we're trash. Especially kids, because "we don't know any better."

[AK47]

What is this once again crap!?!? You stand for your rights but how the hell does that help the next person? How are you making your voice heard? If people see what they do to you, there not going to do the samething. For standing up, you get screwed and in the process you don't help anyone. I don't believe anything I say here, this is what I know! After you pay $1000 for a lawyer what do you get out of it nothin.

[xXhappyAznXx]

like that other guy said
some markers look like real guns
have you seen those tippmans
the one that are customized and look like a real sniper
and the pt extremes and stuff
looks like some crazy kid with a gun in his hand
but wth is a cop doing running up to a guy that has a gun that he thinks is dangerous
cops are stupid abusing their power

[mmhsval]

The fact that you are not in a white neighboorhood explains the fact that the cop was such a b***ch. As far as whoever said not many people play paintball, you are right only a little over 7 MILLION people play. A cop has to be a real dumba$s to think an autococker could be a real gun. It would have to be sometype of 10 guage sawedoff (ignore spelling) shotgun, with no where to to load a shell, a couple of goofy looking pipes sticking out of it, a barrel to short for the pellets to make an accurate pattern, and a hole bunch of hoses all over the place. Sorry I am not trying to be mean/flaming anyone but I had to get that off my chest.

[AK47]

Some cops want to make cities safer, others are just total *******s.

[jaronervin]

Come on, here. 7 million people play paintball? That's really not much. And AK47, if you stand up for your rights, what the hell is he going to arrest you for? Obstruction of justice? No matter what anyone says, if you didn't do anything wrong, they can't arrest you. THAT is what I mean by standing up for your rights.

[Killer Kat]

The real problem isn't with those guys that were standing on the corner with their markers, nor was it the cops. The real cause of these reactions have been a combination of many things. Like the kids from Pennsylvania a while back that vandalized that church. Or maybe it was those guys that made the video of themselves riding around town shooting people on the street. Or even some of things I heard or read hear from our very own members.
Often times all it takes it just some stupid moment of what someone thinks is funny, to start a perception or misconception of what this sport is all about. And it ends up wreaking it for everyone.
Now I'm not into taking the law into my own hands, But let me warn you! If I ever catch anybody doing anything stupid with a paintball marker. And it means I loose some of my privileges because of it. :pissed:

[AK47]

Jar, It all depends on you stand up for your rights. If you freak out on him, you get chucked in jail. I thought thats what you meant.Besides if he takes the markerr from you, how much will it cost to get it back? You have your rights for a price.

[jaronervin]

I see your point, too. There is a line between standing for your rights and acting crazy. If you do act crazy, the cop could arrest you for assault or something. If, however, you say "I have the right to possess this gun on private property", and then he still acts how the cop did, you can report him.

[AK47]

Keep in mind that even when on private property, a gun is a gun. 3 months ago my niebours started fighing. Throwing pictures swearing, In 4 mins 6 cop cars where here. They were fightin on private property but cops still came. Any gun is potenacilly a threat to the public so they always check it out. Here's a hypothetical question, On private property, a gun is shooting cans from his window, so you think a cop has the right to stop it?:confused:
Curious on your opinion.

[jaronervin]

yes. This law is very clear. You cannot shoot a hunting rifle within 100 yds of a residential area. Paintball guns and bb guns dont apply to that law, though. And yes, a cop can intervene if the gun is a threat. But you can sit on a porch with a gun, and they cant do anything about it if you aren't threatening. and about your neighbors, the police were investigating domestic violence (that is unrelated, but I wanted to throw that in).

[PaintballerX]

Originally posted by THE_Cobra58
i woulda asked that pig for his name and while your at it grab his car #

If you ever call a police officer a pig in my presence, you will get the WORST cyber-beating-of-your-*** that ever was concieved. My grandfather was a cop, and "pig" was a popular term used about him by all the druggies/gang warlords/criminals...he didn't like it, and I don't either.

[jaronervin]

"pig" is an insult to most police, so lets keep off it. Many cops don't deserve to be called pigs. However, there are a few twisted cops that fit the definition, maybe the one this forum is based off of.

[AK47]

Who said anything about a real gun. We are talking PB guns hear. Real guns are a serous threat.
Ballerx, No disrespect but cops are pigs! Sorry but they are what they are. Im not a crackie, I never been arrested, the "pigs" are to stupid to catch me, That why Im free. Free baby! But Im not a physco either, I use to be a graffiti writer but left it for paintball, So the term pig sticks with me and I'll defend it. So keep it like this:peace: . Alright?

[wwhooper]

Listen up. You got a lwayer? Call him. The cell phone thing, that's assault. If you had a BBD on your MARKER (use that term in court and to your lawyer), the police had NO grounds to yell at you. If you where on private property, and you weren't pointing your MARKER at anyone, and just the neighborhood old kook called the cops, they would have the right to walk over and ask you "what's up?" But not come out with their hands on their holsters sayin "PUT THE GUN DOWN" and throwing a cell phone at you. Heh heh... You could get a new angel and an ultimate air field, and a new house outa this ;)

[PaintballerX]

Look in my sig....I have two extremely fast markers, as well as three nitro tanks and two hoppers to aid in shooting you incessantly. Don't disrespect cops...they keep it safe everyday for you and me to play paintball. Keep on calling them what you want...but one day, you'll need them, and will you be saying they are stupid then? Alright, that's enough on that topic, moving right along....

[Furious pb]

Here's my take. He had the right to check out the guns. He didn't have the right to drop. He definately had no right to throw the cell. I'd press charges, and act all freaked out in front of the judge too, and you might get some punitive damages. By the the way, don't generalize all cops under this guy, some of them are pretty cool. As for standing up for what you believe, I'm all for it anyone who just follows the beaten trail is a poser and they got nothin except what the copy off others.

Oh, and paintballerX congratulations on working your superior guns into an unrelated topic.:eyes:

[ferret0123]

Exactly we dont care how fast your guns are, That has nothing to do with the thread. :yell:

[PaintballerX]

Originally posted by Furious pb

Oh, and paintballerX congratulations on working your superior guns into an unrelated topic.:eyes:

Heeheehee....thanks!;)

[AK47]

Doesn't matter what gun you have, I'll still take you out.:P

[Regulated]

gimme a break....Newman is about as redneck as it gets....just because your in Cali doesnt mean jack...Newman is small town USA with nothing but cowsh*** and orchards surrounding it....that is defined as redneck.....

[Killer_Demo]

Originally posted by Regulated
gimme a break....Newman is about as redneck as it gets....just because your in Cali doesnt mean jack...Newman is small town USA with nothing but cowsh*** and orchards surrounding it....that is defined as redneck.....

You ever been there???

[Regulated]

I live in Modesto

[Killer_Demo]

Originally posted by Regulated
I live in Modesto

Do you play at the slaughterhouse over by the swamp rats outside of Newman???

[xXhappyAznXx]

gotta see both sides of the story
someone that doesnt know what a pb gun is will freak out when they see a guy with a gun gotta admit seeing an old lady with a pistol in hand is scary
BUT that is bull when the cop did that crap
you might as well take it to court
cops are nice but gees whats with that guy

[Regulated]

I play at Extreme

[Killer_Demo]

You gonna be at the tourny at extreme on the 3rd???

[Regulated]

one way or another....not sure if I am reffing or playing

[Killer_Demo]

What you gonna be wearing???

[SerpentX]

That cop should have known the difference between a real gun and a marker. You'd have to be a complete retard to confuse it. The Marker manufacturers have done a very good job of avoiding modeling their markers after real firearms. Unlike Airsoft guns.

Not to mention most cops have had past experiences with paintball related issues. Most communities have problems from time to time.

I have a feeling the cop in question is either a real prick or he was having a bad day and decided to release a little angst. Either way what he did wasn't right and he should be called on it.

As for the name calling, most police officers are good people. You only hear about the bad ones on the news or read about them in the paper because that kind of news sells. They are doing a job most people wouldn't want to do. They literally put their lives on the line for complete strangers. Show some respect because they deserve it.

[SnowWolf]

I have to disagree with everything the cop did. In just about every state in the union you as a citizen have the right to carry a firearm. I am currently in AZ and you can walk down the street with a sidearm strapped to you waist as long as it is not concealed. You still have to get the permit to carry it concealed. This was one cop using his power to get a thrill. I know several cops and have been caught at one time or another by several and for the most part they are all pretty good at what they do. There are the bad seeds though. GET A LAWYER!!!!!

[jero000]

damn thats gotta suck... i gotta admit... some cops, SOME might be ****h0|3, but then there are some which are cool...
ive never actually seen that happen to me or my family or friends...

[over kill]

THEIR ARE SOME A HOLES OUT THEIR COPS &PAINT BALLERS. BUT THE COPS GET THEIR S FROM THE PAINT BALLERS THATS OUT SHOOTING HOUSES CARS &PEOPLE THEY ARE DESTROYING THE SPORT FOR EVERY ONE JUST PAY ATTENTION THIS STATE BANES PAINT BALL THIS STATE THINKING OF BANING THE SPORT. ITS A DISGRACE TO ALL OF US THAT PLAYS THE SPORT.

[mlharnett]

A new law in Pennsylvania :

If you are in a car and have air and/or a hopper of balls attatched to your marker, You can and/or will be fined and imprisoned.

I am not sure if this extends to walking down the street, but use common sense.

Why are you walking down the street with a weapon in plain view? Are you trying to LOOK good? Dont you have a bag you can carry it in? If you paid more than $20 for your marker.....buy a damn bag to carry it in.

Only load your weapon when you intend to use it.....
If it's loaded, then you INTENDED to use it and may be subject to police action.

Be careful and use your SENSE (if you have any)

Thank you for your support
Matt.

[Killer_Demo]

Originally posted by mlharnett
A new law in Pennsylvania :

If you are in a car and have air and/or a hopper of balls attatched to your marker, You can and/or will be fined and imprisoned.

I am not sure if this extends to walking down the street, but use common sense.

Why are you walking down the street with a weapon in plain view? Are you trying to LOOK good? Dont you have a bag you can carry it in? If you paid more than $20 for your marker.....buy a damn bag to carry it in.

Only load your weapon when you intend to use it.....
If it's loaded, then you INTENDED to use it and may be subject to police action.

Be careful and use your SENSE (if you have any)

Thank you for your support
Matt.

Well its obvious you didnt read the 1st post. we were waiting for our ride to pick us up, did it say we were walking down the street shooting up houses??? NO!!!, now look before you speak

[GreenPic]

and whats a Pennsylvania law have to do with what happend in California?

i guess it goes to show that states are cracking down on making it harder to legally play paintball.

[mlharnett]

Just thought I'd put the word out for everyone in Pa and anyone coming to Pa.

Also, I think gun safety and responsibility with your weapon is a must. Obviously, while waiting for your ride, someone (the cops) saw you had a weapon. That part is for sure. I didnt mean to butt in, but I thought I might say something about how your marker must have been in plain view.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. But you could get a bag, right?

Thank you for your support
Matt.

[Creek]

just for thought. Lawmakers from different states talk to each other. If a law passes somewhere and it cuts down on stuff other states will follow.
I live in a small town in Calif. the officers here know what paintball markers or guns what ever you label them. but if your a minor under 18 better look into the laws.
Some cops are total jerks i know cause i been around alot of them in my life time. But look at it like this you wouldn't want people saying you shoot houses etc just cause you own a paintball gun. cops are the same way theres some out there that are pretty cool. They listen to you etc.
Re mender you hear about cops getting shot everyday. Some over just a petty traffic stop which seem harmless so if they think you are carrying a weapon etc there going to treat you different than just pulling up and talking.

[cris8762]

what i wanna know is if the person with the cocker had a bbd or barrel plug in when this happened? because if you didnt then the cop had good reason to be alarmed if he didnt know it was a paintball gun..but if you DID have one in then the cop deserves what he gets for REALLY overreacting

[plainball]

Stay high pigs cant fly .

[Crime Dog]

??? And that had anything to do with what?

[Killer_Demo]

Originally posted by cris8762
what i wanna know is if the person with the cocker had a bbd or barrel plug in when this happened? because if you didnt then the cop had good reason to be alarmed if he didnt know it was a paintball gun..but if you DID have one in then the cop deserves what he gets for REALLY overreacting

He had his bright orange JT barrel plug in it.

[plainball]

OK crimedog take a chill pill !!!! Its just a saying .:P :P

[SilverFox]

Well one of my other rec. activaties is living history reenacting. We were having a cookout for friends to celebrate our new home, and a few of the guys who came decided they wanted to do a bit of sparring with "live steel" (real steel weapons no sharp edges [technailly live steel is with edges but we do'nt go in for that for obvious saftey reasons]) everyone was sober and very skilled. So i'm like heck lets do it. We suit up in our grab and go at it. We are having a blast when up rolls a sherrif crusier with 2 deputies inside and a trooper car. Everyone stops and the cars stop the cops kinda look us over and look at each other. What they see is 6 guys in armour and helmets with various edged waepons standing about very peacably. Well after a few seconds of both groups looking at each other i step out from our group all 6'3" 245 lbs of me and lean on my axe, "Is there a problem officer?" they all get out and hide behind their doors. "put down your weapons" they say. Well these guys are history buffs and were not to happy about what was going on here ...right to bare arms and all, but we begin to comply. Personally I am truely ticked off and decide to make a show so i bury my axe in a nearby tree and start to unload weapons that the cops didn't see. Some of the other guys follow suit. After a few moments there were 39 weapons in a neat pile near the tree. And one cheesed off host apporaching the deputies. "What exactally is the meaning of this deputy?", i ask looming over the 5'9" deputy.
"We had a call about a bunch of lunatics tring to kill each other," he replies.
"Ahh.. well as you can see that is not the case and this is private property," i smirked.
"um well yes i suppose so, What are you doing anyway?"
"we are praticing deputy, for a play" want to watch?
Umm no carry on but next time you might warn the neighbors. Those 2 cars burned rubber getting out of there. I find it funny how ppl are some how more frightened by edged weapons that guns. If we had been target shooting the cops would have been confident and aggorgent i am sure. But faced with swords and axes they all acted quite frightened. It is like ppl think they might be more dead from a sword than a gun. Ahh well I talked to the neighbors and now they send the kids over to watch

[pumpplaya]

I have had run ins to with cops when taking my marker to a paintball shop, wll on this day that i went there was no parking near the shop so i had to hike to it from the location that i parked at. Well I was like a block away and i was walking on the street holding the thing by the barrell not by the trigger frame and a passing cop stoped and talked to me about how i should proceed and go abouts on carry my pb gun in public the cop was the dopest cop ever and he paintballs himself and so he knows some things

The advice he gave me so you wont get hastled was to keep a barrel plug at the end of the barrel that is brightly colored this is kind of like how toy guns have the orange cap at the end. and he also said never to hold the marker in a asault position and you should hold it by the barrel or any other way except the trigger frame.

Well I hope the advice this cop gave me can help you guys out some, it kind of makes sence.

LATER ALL AND REMEMBER TO PAINTBALL!

Oh yha ust a reminder that these cops arent hastleing you they are just doing there jobs and we should all be gratefull for that because with out the law governing its people we would have a chaotic world

[insurgent]

some cop drives by my house when my friend and i r shooting at this brick post with a target on it with my gun (brick post is on our property). The cop drives by real slow and gives us this bad look. Then about 1 block down he stops behind a curve and watches us. He thinks we can't see him, but we can see him. anyways we went into my backyard with the target. Then the cop comes to the front door and says that we have been shooting cars, because there have had complaints about it. we told him we hadn't, but he still thought we were. Anyways my dad nearly grounded me for a year because some dumb*** cop accused me of it.

[JTramoDude]

well... i am personally a 14 year old kid with a clean record and respect for police... before you go reading this and go calling all cops anti-paintball pigs get a grip...
you don't know what really happened you weren't there.
you don't know what they thought the painball guns really were... to an ignorant person sometimes paitball guns can look like some basement made gun.

the truth is police officers are people... sometimes they make mistakes, sometimes there are a rotten one in the force... but don't go taking them all like that... my brother's best friend is a cop and he is the coolest person in the world... just because they don't let u smoke pot in the streets, or don't let you make alot of noise past 10, or dont let u skateboard behind a store(not that you do that... just an example)... sometimes they might not WANNA bust u... but that's their job and they have to do it.

[Spencer16896]

I would have told him to give it back or you will have him cited for obstruction of justice.

Know the law before doing anything rash. He had no right to take it from you.

[Awhislyle]

Hmmm so iguess you cant have scenerios with tanks in PA or youd get imprisoned