can a ref do this?

[Nicky]

ok, so i went to a tourney a week ago with 2 mates, the ref looked at our guns to make sure they were semi 15 and no rebound. well, see, i took the magnets out my trigger and my friends did the same with there springs on the trigger making it faster. well, we never actually went past 15 pbs but we were bouncing are trigger a little bit. in the middle of the 5th game, i was pooled from the game for bouncing my trigger, yet we still won the game, afterwards he look at all of our guns and he messed with them, he said they where rebounding to 15 pbs not going over but still cheating considering you can get to the max rate faster. we where kicked from the tourny.:mad: but can the ref do that? i mean, lots of other people do that with there triggers.

-Nicky

[hygbackman]

yes, although some refs are ***s. this past sunday at a big open-class ref checked my gun for speed, shot a whole hopper and it stayed at 14-15 asked for another pod of paint, shot lik 30shots outa that, and it jumped to 16 and we were disqualified from that game, which would have put us in the finals. some refs you just cant understand them

[Shadow21]

Yes.

A lot of players don't bounce their triggers though. They know if they are caught, they are kicked. Bounce or ramping of any sort in a semi-auto only tourney is illegal. It's in the rule book.

[punk_rocker543]

You need Gangster Breakout Mode. :dodgy:

[Tabris17]

A lot of players don't bounce their triggers though. They know if they are caught, they are kicked. Bounce or ramping of any sort in a semi-auto only tourney is illegal. It's in the rule book.

QFT.
ANY kind of bounce in a tourney, especially NPPL rules, is highly illegal. In the pro division you are given a warning to fix the problem but in the lower, local tourneys they can and will toss you out as per the rules. The rules will differ from place to place, I know at my field they deducted 100 points from one team who had a bouncing gun. Which basically eliminated them from the tourney.
Removing a spring or magnent to make your trigger 'faster' is illegal as well as it's a mod intent on creating bounce. You either need to place the springs and magnets back in or up your mbounce and debounce on your markers to prevent the bouncing. In a nutshell, the ref was 100% right for removing you and your team from the tourney since you willingly admitted you and your team removed your magents and springs to increase your speed and you were aware it caused a bounce problem.

[hybrid-sniper]

They can do it, just depends on the ref though. They have the right to do pretty much whatever they want to enforce the rules.
I've had refs watch my gun bounce before and when they go to test it, nothing happened for them. So you have to have your trigger set so that a wide variety of people can shoot it using different techniques and not make it bounce.

[inuyasharox4776]

just on this bounce subject: how could a ref prove that you have bounce?

[Shadow21]

Watching closely, then accusing, then proving my using "The Robot."

It's an actual machine. You program how many times you want to pull the trigger, and it will tell you how many times it actually fired. If its over the number of pulls, you get a warning/fix your gun, or you get booted from the tourney.

[hybrid-sniper]

Or if no robot is present then they can just to the self test, then give it to a few other refs to test.

[Nicky]

but technicley ur not purposley bouncing it, its on semi, its just ur trigger bouncing.

[Shadow21]

It doesn't matter, if it bounces at all, you get a warning or get banned from that tourney. That's why its always reccomended to leave either your spring or magnet in your trigger at all times for these kind of situations.

[4THDEGREE]

Semi only means one trigger pull - one shot. Anything other than that, no matter how it happens, is grounds for dis-qualification.