Which marker for Front Tourney Player

[Ruffneck142000]

My team and I are going to get into alot of tournaments this year, I was wondering what type of marker I should get. I play in the front and was thinking a mag or a cocker. Any Suggestions?

[cardbordwarrior]

how much money,id say cocker but what kind is question

[TylerC0286]

I would say an autococker.

[Ruffneck142000]

I have $1,200 to spend on a marker and a nitro tank.

[XSycloneX]

get some kind of electro like an Impulse, Matrix, Bushy, ect.... I use an Impulse and its great. plus they're the cheapest (good quality) electro on the market and come with the all mighty Max Flo regulator. plus they're low preasure, shoot fast, and come with a good stock barrel, and you can get them with a vision system and never have to worry about chopped balls ever again. they also work great with CO2 and can be upgraded A LOT if you want to do so. Mine out performs many Angels and ive spent like half the money.

[XSycloneX]

go to www.e-paintballoutlet.com and look at they're prices and their custom RAT impulse (so sweet). also look at the Ultimate Impulse Package (thats what i have). Its only $850 and comes with a 68ci 4500psi HPA tank and a vision eye.

[VeNoM]

this is all preference there are alot of options for that price range, even a nice LCD and nitro tank package off of a trading forum. there is another thread like this floating around here not to far away, search for it, i think it was like 2 pages and it may help you. i would say a nice cocker or a nice used LCD.

[pb4lif]

i agree. from what i am reading, it sounds to me like they r just recommending what they hav. I hav a timmy. they r very fast and even more light than my cocker. i spent about 900 with a tank. it is great.it has the built in eye like a vision. my friends play with impys. they r really nice to. i hav also played with my friends angel. that was nicer than my timmy. u should ask some local people at feilds to shot one of the guns and see which one u like.
cockers hav really nice feel but they dont hav te rate of fire.

[cardbordwarrior]

well nowd i see ethier the gz timmys or the vision imp or a custom imp.freak factorys are nice as is the ratpulses.

[XSycloneX]

that was how i got to deciding on an Impulse. i got to use an Impulse which was owned by a member of 'N Control. my friend had got to the field like an hour before me and he was telling this guy that i was predy good and wanted to get on a team. when i got there, and started woopen every1 with my piece of crap VL Genensis. the guy aproached me after 2 games. we started talken and stuff and he told me that i should try out for team 'N Control because i would make the team no problem (too bad i didnt have a working gun during the try outs). well, my friend said something like "you think he does good with a K-Mart gun, I'd like to see him play with an electro like your Impulse." well the guy told me that i could use it, so we swaped guns for 3 games. i wooped even more. i was hooked on the Impulse. bought one 4 months later, even after trying out several other gus.

[Ruffneck142000]

I'm getting a Cave Rat Impulse but I still don't know what tank I'm getting.

[KlumpDud]

As a front player you're going to want an Angel/Excalibur, or if you can't afford those, Bushmaster/Viking

[Ruffneck142000]

From what i've seen of impulses they have really impressed me.

[konfederatekid]

ruffneck,

if i were you i wouldnt get the rat impulse or anything like it.(freak factory, rat, 32 degrees, etc.) the reason for this is because these companies do alot of milling to the body and to the bolt. when you start milling internals, you are bound to have problems. you would be better off just buying a regular impulse and get the vision eye, freak, tape worm mod, vertical reg, and other stuff like that. for air, go with the max flo system. the are made for impulses and shockers, so why anything else? i was in the same situation you are in and Bill Gardner, captain of the All Americans, told me exactly what i am telling you. the AA's play with regular impulses and they seem to do rather well wit them, so i took his advice and i have one of the greatest impulses out there. so in conclusion, buy the stock impulse and get the vision, freak tape worm, vertical reg or gadget grip, some nice grips, and of course, the max flo.

[VeNoM]

gonna disagree, it will be perfectly fine. but if for some reason you dont want the anno and milling on the RATs (which is one of my favorite parts, sweeeet) then just get the Rat Jr. same gun with out the milling and anno cosmetics . . .

[XSycloneX]

konfederatekid...first off, stop right there, cause you dont know what your talking about. No custom impulse has milled internals. they might have upgraded better quality/performing internals like an after market delrin bolt or something. and the RAT impulses have all the upgrades you will EVER need. plus the milling and anodizing makes them look SO sweet. sure you could buy a stock Impulse and upgrade that, but why do that when you can get great deals on already upgraded Impys. they come with all those upgrades you listed except for the vision (which you can add), plus more. like the Freak barrel and the VFF (which is better than a tape worm).

[2k1AngelShooter]

Originally posted by konfederatekid
ruffneck,

if i were you i wouldnt get the rat impulse or anything like it.(freak factory, rat, 32 degrees, etc.) the reason for this is because these companies do alot of milling to the body and to the bolt. when you start milling internals, you are bound to have problems. you would be better off just buying a regular impulse ...

Ya I REALLY disagree. The AA's play with stockers cause they play for the factory. How would sp look if their own team doesn't shoot the ones that come off the factory floor? First off, if they milled out the internals they'd need completly different sized parts, all they do is replace factory parts with upgraded parts, the same ones you mentioned.

Not trying to flame but I saw someone said this before...probably el-twitcho, Think before you post.

[pb4lif]

I am still gona hav to say a Timmy. they r really light and very fast. and if us gona argue about accuracy then its not worth it cuz accuracy comes with paint to barrel mathc. but we dont need to go there. impys r nice but i prefer timmys.

[2k1AngelShooter]

Timmys are very cool.

[konfederatekid]

hey angel shooter:

it just shows how much you really know because the AA's dont even play with shockers. they play with impulses. i know because my good friend phil thompson plays for them. the only thing i was trying to say was that by buying the stock impulse you are saving tons of money. i dont know why you ppl love the milling and anodizing because they dont enhance performance, but hey, whatever floats your boat. if looks really matter that much, why dont you buy a different gun to begin with because impys are ugly to begin with. you want a nice looking gun, buy a timmy.

[konfederatekid]

xcyclonex:

ok, i dont know what im talking about? call smart parts and ask them and see what they have to say. they do shave the bolt to make it fit better to the shaved and cut body. yes they do this. i dont care what you say b/c you opinion doesnt matter to anyone. lets face the facts. all im doing is providing my opinion to someone who needs help with buying the right gun. all you are doing is trying to make me look bad, which makes me heated. dont ever try to tell someone they dont know what they are talking about when you are the ignorant one, not me. if the person wants to buy a RAT impy, thats fine, but i was just telling him what i would do. let it go...

[XSycloneX]

once again konfederatekid is all messed up. 2k1AngelShooter said that they played with "stockers" as in "stock Impulses." and i know for a fact that custom impy makers DONT mill ANY internals because of this. first off, if they shaved both the bolt and inside of the body, it would make more space between the sides of the bolt and the inside of the body. this would also cause faster wear on the inside of the body. the only thing they mill is the outside. there is no point in milling the inside of the body when they instal aftermarket parts that are MADE TO FIT BETTER than the stock parts. know the facts before you start talking. and whos the ingnorant one?

and my OPINION, i dont think Impys look ugly when they are stock, maybe a little plain, but their shape is good.

[kr8er]

id say a gz or dragon timmy.

[konfederatekid]

xcyclonex:

my bad on the comment made to angelshooter about the shocker/stocker thing. my bad to angelshooter, but i am still right about the milling of the inside of the gun. this makes the gun lighter, but makes the bolt fit looser. yes i am right about this. whether or not they do it to RATs or not, im not sure, but i DO know they do it to the freak factory and the 32 degrees. i assumed that they did them to RATs because they do mill the body. i dont see why they wouldnt mill it to be lighter, if they are so good as you say. all i am gonna say is that I AM RIGHT ABOUT THE MILLING OF IMPULSES THAT ARE CUSTOM MADE BY CUSTOM COMPANIES. end of story...

[XSycloneX]

dude, get me a quote from a custom Impy maker and ill believe you. cause i am posative that they dont. they would only lose VERY VERY LITTLE WEIGHT if they shaved ineternals. all the real weight lost is from the milling to the outside of the body. there would be no reason to shave the inside of the body to save weight, bacause the only thing you would really accompish would be loosing performance. and a custom gun maker doesn't mod a gun knowing that it will loose performance. that would defiet the whole purpose of the idea. someone back me up on this.

and i spell it XSycloneX, not with a C. and no this is not a spelling error if your wondering. i kinda got it from the GMC Syclone.

[2k1AngelShooter]

Originally posted by 2k1AngelShooter


Ya I REALLY disagree. The AA's play with stockers cause they play for the factory.

Read closer, it says STOCKER...as in stock from factory floor. And second of all, look at this pic from Paintball2exteremes, read the caption. Sure looks like a shocker to me!

[konfederatekid]

xsyclonex:

heres the number for urban assualt (724) or(412)-220-2222
call here and ask for phil thompson,owner of urban assualt paintball. he is a co-captain of the AA's and the source of this info. i live a half an hour away from smart parts and they told me the same. (whether or not they are trying to get me to buy one of theirs is a different story). but in all honesty, phil is a good guy and i dont know why he would make any of this up to me or to anyone. if its that big of a deal, call him and ask him.

[konfederatekid]

angel shooter:

how old that pic anyways? i know they shoot impys now b/c of sponsorship. the only guy that might shoot a shocker is "spesh" robinson b/c he plays back. and i apologized to you for the stocker/shocker mix up in the post i wrote xcyclonex.

[konfederatekid]

ok guys...arent we kinda getting off the subject of the purpose of this forum? we are supposed to try to help a fellow paintballer out in finding the right marker, not giving someone a hard time about what they think is right. grow up...

[2k1AngelShooter]

you grow up. Its's Januray 2k2 Paintball2Extremes. Have you ever machined anything ever? If they machined out the internals, none of the parts would fit from other companies? Do you think I'm an IDIOT? Come on man, I can't even begin to tell you how many things I've machined in my life time. They lighten them up by removing excess material on the outside, not the inside. Look at Angel Flys, they have very little extra material externally, but they are the same internally.

[2k1AngelShooter]

If you want an outside, and well respected oppion on Impys, call Walt or Craig at www.e-paintballoutlet.com They will give you the straight up

[ScottyPBmasta]

I gotta agree with 2k1angel here. Why on earth would they mill the insides of the GUN, so the bolt can have something nice to look at? And if they did ( for some stupid reason) mill the insides of the gun they would have to change all of their parts to fit the new milling, not to mention pissing off other companies that make after market parts for them. And what they could take out of the inside would make the gun about half a miligram lighter!

[2k1AngelShooter]

Some times they polish the internals, maybe help chamfer air passage ways, if that at all, not very likely (that is something done by the factory) but nothing where other parts are concerned (and in an impulse, thats basicly all the internal passages). Thanks scotty

[Creek]

you guys took this thread and made it way off base. The guy asked what was a good marker for a front player .not do they mill this and that. If you want to talk this make a new thread.
Ruffneck I sorry to close this but please do make a new thread. And if it goes off subject like this did I'll delete there posts.