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alpha107
09-10-2006, 08:06 AM
Sorry if this is even remotly a spinoff of the funniest thing a noob has ever said to you, thread... but it got me thinking.
You 'pros' can be pretty cruel to newbs. I myself AM a newb. I have a tippmann 98c and the only upgrade i have is a double trigger. My parents dont help me pay for it and i had to work my *** off for 6$ an hour to get around 200$ for my starting kit. I only play woodsball with my m8s, although i have played speedball twice.
Moving on, ive seen in other threads some of you, instead of helping, purposly tell new players to the sport wrong answers just for the sake of your pleasure. Don't any of you guys think thats just the slightest bit mean?
you were all new to paintball once and so sue me if my parents wont get me a 1000$ kit to start with, Ill make deal with what I have and be happy with it.
Back to the root of the thread, if a newbie came up to you with a question, would you laugh at him/turn him down, or help him?

PbAllWiZZ
09-10-2006, 08:08 AM
A lot of times on the forums, kids are just stupid about it, so they get bad answers. But in real life I help them as much as I can.

kjpmkjp
09-10-2006, 08:21 AM
Why would you avoid helping someone who seemed to wish to learn about paintball? If he acted like a jerk, I would be a bit more reluctant to help, but if they really wanted to know something, of course I would help them.

BunkerBoys
09-10-2006, 09:04 AM
Are you trying to vent or something alpha. Most parents don't buy their children $1000 markers. I hate it when people use that analogy. Most people have jobs and pay for it themselves like I did. Back to the point, some people do treat n00bs pretty badly. Then again, most people are nice to them. I'm in the middle. Depends what level of noob you are. There are the cocky newbs, the dumb newbs, and the quiet newbs that are too shy to talk to anyone. Obviously I show no respect for the cocky newbs, but I'm always willing to help someone that isn't a dink.

AustinGod
09-10-2006, 09:09 AM
I try to help them.

kjpmkjp
09-10-2006, 09:20 AM
There are the cocky newbs, the dumb newbs, and the quiet newbs that are too shy to talk to anyone. Obviously I show no respect for the cocky newbs, but I'm always willing to help someone that isn't a dink.

QFT. I can't stand the cocky ones. Especially ones who keep trying to do one on ones with you, and always lose, and just claim you won because of (insert sad excuse here). Best is when they accuse you of wiping/using Full Auto (even if they have a ramping Ion).

TiPpYsGaLoRe
09-10-2006, 09:23 AM
People do not seem to realize that there are 2 types of newbs. Noobs are the jerks that we make fun of. Newbs are new players. Get that through your heads.

soccerjacks12
09-10-2006, 09:26 AM
I help the people on a legitimate thread. If there have been many of the same kind of question, and they didn't search, then I be sarcastic. It all depends on the question.
Oooo and Tippys got it right.
But at the field I always help.

nerdcore
09-10-2006, 09:45 AM
I always help someone who asks.

mugenXP
09-10-2006, 09:49 AM
I was talking to this one newbie with an electra one time, and he said he'll own my ion with a rubberband on his rocking trigger.

but anyway... I'd help the cool newbies, we were all newbies once so I dont see the point of looking down on them. but there is one time where this one guy about my age, with an ion that didn't know how to adjust velocity and he asked me, so i helped him, then he went to the chrono, and it was still shooting high because i heard the chrono beep, so i walked over there just to help him adjust it again, and he doesn't even give me a "thank you". newbies like that, i dont like.

but most of the time, DM6, Ego owners, etc, are more cocky than newbies.

trophyman582
09-10-2006, 09:59 AM
I try to go out of my way if I see someone struggling or having a problem. It's a great way to make new friends, and feel good about yourself in the process.

paintballer667
09-10-2006, 10:04 AM
I always help new players. But when they act like they know everything and don't, and then ask you a question thats when I don't help.

alpha107
09-10-2006, 10:23 AM
Are you trying to vent or something alpha. Most parents don't buy their children $1000 markers. I hate it when people use that analogy. Most people have jobs and pay for it themselves like I did. Back to the point, some people do treat n00bs pretty badly. Then again, most people are nice to them. I'm in the middle. Depends what level of noob you are. There are the cocky newbs, the dumb newbs, and the quiet newbs that are too shy to talk to anyone. Obviously I show no respect for the cocky newbs, but I'm always willing to help someone that isn't a dink.
No I wasnt trying to, but the forums make it seem like almost all of the newbs get there parents to pay for their stuff, so i was just sorta trying to break the ice saying, im not of those kind of noobs.

Ebonclaw
09-10-2006, 03:40 PM
Heh. You'll notice that most of the time on these forums,the people who get good answers are the ones who ask their questions in a legitimate manner and have already tried to help themselves by at least searching. But running into the GP forum and going "Dose NE 1 no how 2 make my gun electric???!!!!lawls!!!" tends to get the cold shoulder. And rightfully so.
Anyone who is stumped at the field, I usually try to help, especially if I've played with or against them and they played honoroably (i.e. didn't cheat, wipe, or shoot hot). These are the kinds of people that we want to help to see good players come up in the sport to improve it. I generally won't help jerks and cheaters though.
Lastly, I'll admit I've seen people be jerks to newbs. If I see it happening, I'll try and help the guy out instead of being a jerk to him to help him understand that this sport, like any other, has its jerks. If I accidentally give a newb a good solid pounding in a match, I tend to apologize and try to give him game pointers.

It's all about how you ask. Just like my customers I deal with, if you start out the conversation nicely, I'm much more apt to help you than if you're a jerk about your problem.

iplaynaked
09-10-2006, 03:54 PM
i was lucky and people weren't dicks to me "on my way up" so i try my best not to be a dick to others.

Lopez17
09-10-2006, 03:58 PM
How I respond and the level of the response is going to depend on the conduct of the person asking. If they're annoying, hyper, sarcastic, or a general tool, then no...they generally won't get much help from me. When I tool around at the local Pevs store, I usually try to help out everyone...but at the field it's pick and choose. I've even been known to lend my marker(s) to younger players. I've given away bags of paint to kids...and give away barrel covers to younger players that only have plugs...it just all depends on the conduct of the person asking questions. Even today, I paired up in two games with a few kids with Custom 98's who hadn't played much. Some of our fields are large and play differently. I showed them the ropes and some things to look out for when playing. Hopefully it helps them play better next time. Yesterday a father that was watching his son play from the sidelines was chatting with my group of friends about strategy. I had him put on a set of goggles and shadow me for a game. It's hard to explain concepts sometimes but much easier to illustrate tactics while you're playing. As I stated earlier, it all depends on the attitude of the player/person as to whether I'll help.

Of course, just because I'm nice to them off the field, doesn't mean I'm discriminating on the field. If they're on the other team, my sole purpose in life for a 15 minute period is to eliminate them from the game and put them in the dead box with my paint on them in the most expedient way possible.

Omega_Pirate
09-10-2006, 04:05 PM
The guy on the forum was probably just being sarcastic, he might not have been trying to be a jerk, but still telling someone to do something incorrect, may seem funny, but they may think you are telling them what to really do.

DirtyBirdy51
09-10-2006, 04:08 PM
Of course, just because I'm nice to them off the field, doesn't mean I'm discriminating on the field. If they're on the other team, my sole purpose in life for a 15 minute period is to eliminate them from the game and put them in the dead box with my paint on them in the most expedient way possible.

QFT for sure.

Ebonclaw
09-10-2006, 04:08 PM
Well, it's always best to put full pressure from your reg into your solenoid to test it out when you air your gun up for the first time. Helps break in the reg.

(please don't do this, I'm being sarcastic)

Hawkeye1050
09-10-2006, 05:18 PM
i help them, but only if they are the good newbs, like the ones people have said before. Sadly, that is rarely at my local field. Many newbs at my field are the kind that use paintball as a way to hurt other people. in other words, ive seen kids shoot over the chrono, which would beep, then they would walk away grinning. Well, when that happens, i play their game to only them. There are also many just plain annoying newbs, such as one that literally wore full jt body armor, many layers of jackets/pants and rented. he tried to order everyone around, and act like he knew what he was doing. He called a barrel break an "air burst", and through in all scientific bs about what it was. he tried to order everyone around using his "winning strategy", which involved everyone suicidally running down the field rambo style, while he sat in the back so he "could continue strategizing". One game, i refused to listen to the kid, and he shot me, even though i was on his team. he caused everyone to hate him in one game, where the other team was searching the woods field for him, and he sat at the start line, with a grenade in his hand waiting for them to come. We waited 30 minutes for that game to end. We yelled at him to do something, and he screamed like a little baby that they would "murder" him if he moved from that spot. he tried to make it sound like the right thing, by saying "there were snipers covering he rock from all angles". they were over 300 ft away. The whole time, the grenade was never used, but he talked like it was the nuclear bomb that would win the entire war.

dapaintball12
09-10-2006, 05:25 PM
If they treat me with respect while asking a question then I politely answer.

Omniscient
09-10-2006, 06:13 PM
I help newbies. It's like reproduction, teach them the important things and how to play and the sport will live on. Honor, and knowledge should be passed along with the joy of the game

coolrazer
09-11-2006, 10:47 AM
Moving on, ive seen in other threads some of you, instead of helping, purposly tell new players to the sport wrong answers just for the sake of your pleasure.

PM me links of these threads please.

stuntman
09-11-2006, 02:52 PM
Always help the newbs...if you help them learn, they wont need to ask stupid questions anymore....
Besides, its the polite & courtious thing to do.

§checky
09-11-2006, 03:33 PM
Are you trying to vent or something alpha. Most parents don't buy their children $1000 markers. I hate it when people use that analogy. Most people have jobs and pay for it themselves like I did. Back to the point, some people do treat n00bs pretty badly. Then again, most people are nice to them. I'm in the middle. Depends what level of noob you are. There are the cocky newbs, the dumb newbs, and the quiet newbs that are too shy to talk to anyone. Obviously I show no respect for the cocky newbs, but I'm always willing to help someone that isn't a dink.
aye, i didn't run to mommy and told them i need 1100 bucks for my GAT and reloader 2 months ago

Doc_2007
09-11-2006, 03:37 PM
People do not seem to realize that there are 2 types of newbs. Noobs are the jerks that we make fun of. Newbs are new players. Get that through your heads.

This site can use some inappropriate language. (( Online gaming comic ))

Perfect (http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20060823) example

Tweeters
09-11-2006, 04:39 PM
my parents bought all my stuff. i havent made a penny of money in my life.

f2f4
09-12-2006, 11:58 AM
I've always tried to help every new player I see who legitimately wants to learn more and become better to the best of my ability. My teamates can attest to this, because there were times when that would get in the way of my own success and development as a player. But as Lopez stated, if they're on the other side, all bets are off. The only thing I hold back on is bunkering newer players.

paintballer667
09-12-2006, 12:01 PM
The only thing I hold back on is bunkering newer players.


Yea, I think that plain wrong. If you do this all it shows is that your an idiot.

4THDEGREE
09-12-2006, 12:21 PM
I have to say that I try to be very helpful, however I will also say that this has become a bit of a handicap as of late. i have noticed locally a very bad habit has developed of everyone at the local fields referring every new person or anyone with a technical problem my way.

This past few weeks have resulted in folks asking for o-rings, screws, batteries, borrow a hopper, borrow a tank, back up gun, etc. The advice will continue to be free but the gravy train has come to a screeching halt!

Lopez17
09-12-2006, 01:48 PM
Yea, I think that plain wrong. If you do this all it shows is that your an idiot.

Why's that? :eyes: A little bit of restraint goes a long way. It didn't say that he won't shoot...just not bunker them and probably lob a few extra balls in there.

spydadude
09-12-2006, 02:59 PM
I have a newb story from my last game that went from okay to bad:

While playing a couple of games of 3-on-3 at a field, my friend and I were put with a brand new player and his first gun, a brand, spanking new Pilot. He was a nice kid and we asked him to stay in back unless he got comfortable enough to move up because he said he was nervous. Well, my friend or I (don't know, don't care) got a guy on the break and we started to try and get the last two guys. The newer player yells that he's moving up and I saw that it was clear and motioned for him. He thought my friend was another guy moving up and popped him in the back about three times. My friend went out and looked back at the kid. We soon lost because I couldn't pull off a two-on-one. We joked about it while we reloaded and my friend asked the kid to just be cautious. Next game, it happened again and the kid said, "Well you were shooting at me from behind." He was referring to the fact that he ran off the break and my friend was shooting from behind him.

He started good, but kinda went sour.

Renegade blue59
09-13-2006, 07:49 AM
my view is, you all were nubs at one point, so why not help him get thru the day?

if any of the younger kids ask me a question, i am proud to try and help. in fact one day, this kid and his father were both newbs and it was their first day of playing the game, the father asked for some pointers from me and they were with me the whole day since i came alone. it was actually really nice cuz they got some experiance and they both got a kill :D and after that i just feel good trying to help ze nubs.

Ebonclaw
09-13-2006, 08:21 AM
Why's that? :eyes: A little bit of restraint goes a long way. It didn't say that he won't shoot...just not bunker them and probably lob a few extra balls in there.

I think he's saying bunkering newbs is plain wrong Lopez...

Lopez17
09-13-2006, 09:07 AM
Meh...if that's the case, I disagree. Bunkering is part of the game. Destroying them in the process is unnecessary though.

hybrid-sniper
09-13-2006, 07:32 PM
If they genuinly want to know something i'll help them as much as possible, because i want them to be able to help others and create more players in the sport and teach them right.
If they act like they know everything or want to try and show off, then i'll either not help them or tell them something completely false and watch as they learn a lesson in humility.

On the field i'll help them along during games, but if they act any bit cocky or ungrateful then again, i put them in their place.

Tweeters
09-13-2006, 07:38 PM
no. screw him.

TheSpy11
09-13-2006, 07:40 PM
Since I'm about the only truly serious paintballer in my local group, I get asked questions all the time. I'm always happy to help, and I consider it an honor to get asked.

inspectorchao
09-14-2006, 05:31 AM
This may be just me. But older players tend to look down on me just cause I'm younger. When I shoot the more experienced players, some of them wipe thinking I won't notice because i'm a "noob". But when they get shot by others they tend to show more respect and walk off.
On another note, People have tried to help me with my cocker but unfortunately not many of them know anything about cockers :(. I had to learn everything I know on this site

watson759
09-14-2006, 06:03 AM
i help as many people as i possibly can because i was once a newbie and i think many people often forget that

smrtprts
09-16-2006, 10:26 AM
In RL I always help unless its a stupid question or I am busy. I try to help as much as possible though. Forums I help a lot too if I am asked a question.

On DPB I give stupid answers :P