View Full Version : Can i get some help?
Paintballa_2232
09-19-2006, 04:13 PM
ok well first off im new here and just started playing paintball. i was wondering which gun is better for sniping in the back of the field, seeing as thats what i usually do. a A-5 or a 98 custom. i have a 98 custom and was thinking of getting a A-5 but dont want to blow my money on it if its not much better. which one has better range and is most acurate? if i could get some ideas it would help. and whichever one i get i will probally get a better barrel and mabey a scope.
straw
09-19-2006, 04:19 PM
ok first off allot of people are gona ***** at you because of the new rules but ill help u
STICK WITH THE 98
straw
09-19-2006, 04:20 PM
ok first off allot of people are gona ***** at you because of the new rules but ill help u
STICK WITH THE 98 AND GTET A FLAT LINE or what ever barrel you can afford
20 yr old Faust
09-19-2006, 05:01 PM
Considering you already own a Custom 98, stick with it but more so try to improve your game play rather than your marker(s).
TheSpy11
09-19-2006, 05:09 PM
The 98c performs exactly the same as the A-5. Range and accuracy are determined not by a particular gun type, but by barrels, barrel bores/paints, gun consistency, kick, and other factors.
Just buy a new, quality barrel for your 98c. It will improve the accuracy a great deal. Forget about scopes. They will do nothing to help you.
synkronics
09-19-2006, 05:36 PM
get the apex barrel its got a flatline setting and is better than the 98 flatline
fake ninja
09-19-2006, 09:33 PM
I would probably go with a new barrel on the 98 since snipers dont need the cyclone, and in my opinion it is ugly
m98sniper15
09-20-2006, 10:31 AM
I'm would get an Apex I have one it is great. I'm going to sell my 98 custom and buy a A-5 next summer. Here's my setup.
98 custom
BT Apex Barrel
CMI 16" tru-flight
shocktech superfly bolt
m98sniper15
Paintballa_2232
09-20-2006, 11:41 AM
ok well i already have a 14" barrel,a M-4 stock, and a cheap red dot scope which isnt too bright. i was just shooting it and its pretty acurate but i have to arc my shots to hit what i want to hit. my red dot has to be way above the target. and i heard that with a flatline on the A-5 you barly have to arc your shots, but i havent actually used one yet to see if thats true. so i think im going to get a A-5 or ill keep my 98 if i can find a nice barrel that nearly eliminates the need to arc my shots.
TheSpy11
09-20-2006, 09:15 PM
To the two posted above:
Again, the A-5 will do nothing for you both.
paintballa_2232: Either quit wanting a gun that won't arc shots (that isn't natural), or buy an Apex for your 98 which is better than a Flatline. Any barrel other than the Apex/Flatline will cause paintballs to fall naturally to the ground because of gravity. It's just a part of the game.
pbmike1888
09-20-2006, 09:35 PM
imo the flatline and apex are a waste of money. if i had to choose id go with the apex. both barrels claim to hit over 200 feet. with my friend apex on the longest setting it would shoot weird unless the gun was arc'd. the barrels r very innacurate because you have to point the gun at almost a 40 degree angle to even get the paint going that far, which greatly reduces accuracy. they are more like morters.
get a good 14 inch barrel and ull be fine. learn how to shoot first.
slingshot66
09-21-2006, 11:57 AM
Well I have a Flatline for my A5 and I dont have too arch my shots at all. It does shoot flat and alot futher then normal barrels. But it shoots trash can wide. Long range flat shooting = wide target area. Its fine for playing back and giving cover fire. It isn't a sniper barrell. I don't play back anymore so I've gone to a barrel kit. Shoots like a nail driver. You just got to hold higher for long shots. Firearms aren't any differant when you reach the the end of their flat shooting range. Thats why you sight them half the distance you plan to shoot. So your the same amount high at close range as you are low at long range.
I'd rather be on left to right. Then up and down. If I shoot you in the foot your out, If I shoot you in the head your out.
If you play woodsball and you like to play back. Keep some cover over your head about 10 feet in front of you .If the other team doesn't have a flatline they can't hit you. Your flatline will deliver the paint to them. After a few shots you may get lucky and hit one. Remember side to side is trash can wide.
Bad part of a flatline is 50 ft or more with a normal barrel the ball arches and you can take people out behind bunkers, Flatline just shoots straight over it. I've taken more people out with arching shots over bunkers hills ect.
PTE. O'Hearn
09-21-2006, 12:47 PM
yeh i think you should keep your 98 custom and upgrade it insted of buying a A-5. Just because the A-5 could use some upgrades as well like a barrel....etc.
Paintballa_2232
09-21-2006, 03:16 PM
well i was looking at some upgrades for the A-5 and this one caught my eye...
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=Kr7b9eI7QOLbqacoJvEbXejylU0DbztxYvY=?Pro ductID=4fDAqArbjjYAAAEMYp9NevSF#
anyone know if this would be good for sniping with the addition of a scope
synkronics
09-21-2006, 03:24 PM
that just makes your gun purdy
if you got money burning a hole in your pocket get it
otherwise there really isnt sniping in paintball
pbmike1888
09-21-2006, 08:16 PM
i kno you dont have to arc your shots normal shooting. i meant to hit the max distance. you have to arc the hell out of it. people are like "o yeah the flatline can shoot like 300 feet. yeah at a 45 degree angle. for normal paintball ranges it shoots fine.
and sniping is possible in any sport in which shots are fired. the definition of sniping is shooting from a concealed position. even though its generally used as shooting from miles away. its not. so technically shooting someone in the leg that walks by the bush your hiding in is concidered sniping.
Paintballa_2232
09-22-2006, 06:35 AM
so which would be more acurate and have better range, a 18" barrel or a Flatline for the A-5.
pbmike1888
09-22-2006, 06:54 AM
18 inches is too long. well at least in my opinion, and im sure everyone else's here as well. anything more than 14, and POSSIBLY a 16 just slows down your ball and probly give you less range.
just a little advice. dont mod your tippmann thinking your going to be hiding in a bush for 3 days and getting kills from 300+ feet. 18 inch barrels, scopes, and all that stuff do absolutley nothing. all paintball guns have give or take the same effective range. outside that range your lucky to hit a garbage can 3 out of 10 times.
so dont waste your money on "sniper" stuff. learn how to stalk your opponent, because chances are in the woods, your not going to have a clear shot over 100 ft anyway.
Paintballa_2232
09-22-2006, 08:11 AM
OK thanks for the advice, i was thinking of a A-5 with a Flatline, double trigger and a SMG stock.
pbmike1888
09-22-2006, 01:39 PM
that will do. flatline is mostly personal preferance. no matter how much we may say its a waste it all depends. the amount of people who love it versus the amount who hate it is about 50/50.
just read some reviews and ask around about the stock. some stocks wobble and its very annoying when the stock wobbles.
Paintballa_2232
09-22-2006, 04:08 PM
hey i was looking at some reviews on this site and found a few about the 18" barrel that came with that M-82 kit that said that its pretty acurate. i posted a link to it above, so were those reviews BS or is it a actually a ok barrel?
TheSpy11
09-22-2006, 04:58 PM
so which would be more acurate and have better range, a 18" barrel or a Flatline for the A-5.
Neither. Your current barrel or the Apex on your 98 will be just as good. The A-5 is useless for you!
Paintballa_2232
09-22-2006, 05:11 PM
well if the A-5s useless i might as well get that M-82 kit for my 98 and save myself 200$.
pbmike1888
09-22-2006, 05:39 PM
the m82 is purely cosmetic.
correct my stats if you wish.
but the first 8 inches of a barrel or to gain speed. anything over 8 inches is slowing the ball down. not too much but a little. the rest of the length of a barrel is for guiding the ball. so an 18 inch barrel has 10 inches of free flight. imagine a 14 inch barrel. your losing speed for 6 inches of the barrel. an extra 4 inches of speed lose is alot in paintball.
so to accomodate the speed/distance loss you need to jack up your velocity, therefore using more air per fill.
one thing anyone will tell you. try not to waste money on things for your gun that are mainly cosmetic. you will find yourself with an intimidating tippmann that shoots 9 balls per second. and you will always be overpowered.
trust me, im watching my friend do it. he has a stock tippmann with a progressive barrel which is 14 inches. the guy at the pb store talked him out of buying a 20 inch "sniper" barrel. now he has a 4x scope.
TheSpy11
09-22-2006, 05:46 PM
I should have asked this earlier: What barrel do you have now? I see that it is a 14" model.
The M82 kit will NOT increase accuracy or distance. It will only add weight, size, and debt. It's entirely not worth it because all that you gain is a different look.
Paintballa_2232
09-22-2006, 06:02 PM
well i know the M-82 kit its self wouldnt help me but i though the 18" barrel would help. but now that you put it that way i think im going to just get a A-5 with a flatline. plus the place i play at makes you turn your velocity down to a certain level so i wouldnt even be abel to have it up.
TheSpy11
09-22-2006, 06:21 PM
Apex > Flatline. So, 98 w/Apex > A-5 w/ Flatline.
Right now I would buy an Apex if I didn't have the Flatline.
pbmike1888
09-22-2006, 08:35 PM
go with the flatline. you will save yourself alot of heckling and flaming later when you go to a field. trust me
spyder_013
09-23-2006, 05:06 AM
dont do it keep your 98, you can get the same stocks on ebay or specialopspaintball.com, you can get a cyclone feed, and a double trigger for the 98 and a 14" ceramic will be fine for a barrel, in my experience the flatline is a waste
yustink2much
09-23-2006, 05:24 AM
or you could buy the 22'' smart parts boku barrel :dodgy:
Paintballa_2232
09-23-2006, 05:47 AM
lol i think ill pass on the 22". if i hid behind a bunker the other team could just hit my barrel lol.
AngryInsurgent
09-23-2006, 05:59 AM
Why would you buy an A-5 to replace your 98?
Internally, they are very similar. The only real difference is cosmetics and that the A-5 comes stock with the cyclone feed (which you can buy for your 98 for about $60.)
Stick with your 98, don't buy a stock, and if you want extra range then buy an apex barrel. Don't waste hundreds to get an A-5 just for its flatline when the apex for 98 is better than any flatline and will only cost you about $80.
PTE. O'Hearn
09-23-2006, 07:31 AM
Yeh it's all up to you what you want. I don't mind the flatline but i just find it's not as accurate as it could be.
pbmike1888
09-23-2006, 07:31 AM
+1 on that. you can find an apex on ebay for cheaper too. but either way, just remember. paintball is 5% equiptment and 95% skill.
h0stle
09-23-2006, 08:05 AM
if ur rich go with a boomstick120 or a ultralite 105
if ur tight on money go with a 20 `` j&j ceramic they like 30 bucks
prices on all the barrels are new so if u buy used its around half price and maybe lower or higher depending on the condition of that barrel
m98sniper15
09-23-2006, 06:54 PM
The BT Apex barrel has more range then the Flatline. I've tested both and the Apex shoots about 70-80 feet longer. Plus you can curve shots like the Apex and yes the curve really works. Another nice thing about the Apex is that it mounts the gun like a normal barrel unlike the flatline you have to sight in and every time you chop you have to unscrew the barrel to clean the inside of your gun. Then you have to take 100 paintballs to resight the barrel. It is pain. Or you could just get the Apex barrel that requires no sighting at all and they both cost about the same. The Apex has just about the same accuracy as the Flatline. Thats just my two cents
m98sniper15
Paintballa_2232
09-24-2006, 06:27 AM
well i guess the Apex sounds like the way to go. so would the apex be a good barrel to snipe with or should i just play up front?
dukedude4evr
09-24-2006, 06:34 AM
dude, dont get a-5 if u want to upgrade to electro grips.......u gotta either get the tippmann upgrade then the APE Rampage Board, or get grip halves then that......wayyyyy toooo muchhh money. I believe if u got a cp or c......u should be fine....i not sure about the custom though...mi custom pro has the grip halves in it, all it needs is the electro kit upgrade from tippmannparts.com for 15$ and the board for 60$ and ur ready! It's cheaper and better! lol but ummm, yeppp just saying that there. (ALSO KICK ISN'T BAD! LOL i shot i believe 10 bps stock....w/ a Evo 2.........beat that out....)
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