Bolts?

[Deathwish]

Alright well i have been out of paintball for the past few months, due to school and football and im getting back into it again, before i stopped for the few months i was going to buy a nexus bolt for my 05 ego, since i stopped i didnt pursue with getting the nexus bolt, my question is: Have any new and improved bolts came out within the past few months that i should consider or is the Nexus still one of the top rated bolts like it was months ago?

[volcom0729]

the cure bolt recently just came out.theres a thread on it and check PBN as they've had hands on reviews.there are also the hardshell bolts that came out.

[wise690]

The HS bolt is only a little bit shorter than a Nexus bolt, but lately I've read a lot of bad things about it chopping @ PBN.

[Dave Thibault]

the cure bolt is def the best bolt out on the market for both the ego and the eteks.

[Deathwish]

Does the Cure bolt fit in the 05 ego without any modification?

[DaPmaster]

i havent had any problems with my HS bolt at all, it raised my FPS 20 over the stock bolt.....plus its alot more consistent.

[wise690]

I saw the results of the testing, did look nice. I'm still undecided on Nexus or HS though.

[Crede777]

Yes the Cure bolt will fit an 05 Ego without any modification.

[Deathwish]

Does anyone have any suggestions on where to buy the bolt from? no one around me sells them so im going to have to order it online.

[Shadow21]

http://froogle.google.com/froogle_url?q=http://www.doropaintball.com/ab1038101equick/shopexd.asp%3Fid%3D10056&fr=AL89LZchScujZDYDu97APNsZJR2GCE9_ckQL-gJ5HdPAzIs8HxhqYyMAAAAAAAAAAA&gl=us&hl=en.

http://froogle.google.com/froogle_url?q=http://www.compulsivepaintball.com/go.asp%3Fic%3D15905%26source%3DFroogle&fr=AJtcJeVMQDLIGic39V88O5d-WmfxuYVRnsNa81FxrqhNZw4D4qkTlgoAAAAAAAAAAA&gl=us&hl=en.

http://planeteclipse.com/site/prodView.asp?prodID=2944.

[Deathwish]

one last question about the cure bolt, since it has o-rings doesnt that pose a problem with the detents? wont it wear them down faster?

[ase]

Maybe. But it will still be worth it, detents are cheap.

My advice: keep stock bolt, trim it, then buy paint and pwn n0OBS.

[f2f4]

Best bolt if you don't wanna deal with O-rings (in my opinion): Nexus. Why? It still has the ramped top. Which has been proven to make a difference.

Best bolt if you don't mind lubing O-rings: Cure. It too has a ramped top.

Best bolt for effeciency, not the gentlest on paint though: Hardshell. It does not have a ramped top.



These are just my misguided opinions. Your mileage may vary.

[<IONFREAK>]

Just a little curious what does the ramped top do?

[wise690]

It prevents chops, by not allowing the end of the bolt to clip the next ball in the ball-stack. I'm bad at explaining that, so you might get what I was trying to say. I'll go find a diagram anyway, pics coming.

[wise690]

Bottom right corner of the picture.

http://www.planeteclipse.com/newsletter/jpg/30-08-06.jpg

[Deathwish]

What's the advantages about having O-Rings? i dont mind lubing them and as someone stated before detents are cheap so im not worried about that.

[DaPmaster]

it seals the barrel for less blowback and better efficiency i believe, someone correct me if im wrong..

[f2f4]

That is correct, it does technically give a better seal.

I say technically, because PE's bolts are made to such good tolerances, that one would be hard-pressed to tell the difference. :)


If you don't mind the lubing, than I would say the Cure is defenitely the one for you.

[<IONFREAK>]

how does it make a seal with no o-rings? all the places that compressed air can get out of and PE made it to where it won't leak, how is that? (i havent been in the pressence of egos almost at all)

[wise690]

It does have o-rings.

[<IONFREAK>]

I wasn't talking about the cure bolt. i knew it had o-rings. or was you not talking about the cure either?

[wise690]

If your not talking about the Cure, what are you talking about? It's thew only current Ego bolt with o-rings.

[<IONFREAK>]

I was talking about every other ego bolt. how does it seal without o-rings? sorry for not making myself clear.

[Shadow21]

All Ego bolts have o-rings, except the Nexus. Either 1 or 2 on the front, and 2 on each side of the bolt hole on the bottom.

I think Wise made a mis typo in his post.

[<IONFREAK>]

thanks

[wise690]

All Ego bolts have o-rings, except the Nexus. Either 1 or 2 on the front, and 2 on each side of the bolt hole on the bottom.

I think Wise made a mis typo in his post.

No, I did not. Look at any given bolt out right now, I did say current btw. No, the Nexus isn't the only one without o-rings. My stock bolt for example, no o-rings, Dart, no o-rings, NDz, no o-rings, HS, no o-rings. I think you made the typo.:)

No o-rings:
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sakworldpaintballsupply-store_1917_41716521 (http://www.sakworldpaintball.com/newdeegoepro.html)http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sakworldpaintballsupply-store_1917_41734955 (http://www.sakworldpaintball.com/plecegoddibo.html)
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-51921239013360_1917_6868774 (http://www.pbwarehouse.net/hashpr05egob.html)

Like I said, and it wasn't a typo, the only current bolt with o-rings is the Cure. A few '05 bolts had o-rings, but those are long gone.

[ase]

Yeah you can put o-rings on Ego bolts, which is where there are the little slots for them, and it's supposed to improve consistency, but it doesn't come stock.

[<IONFREAK>]

No, I did not. Look at any given bolt out right now, I did say current btw. No, the Nexus isn't the only one without o-rings. My stock bolt for example, no o-rings, Dart, no o-rings, NDz, no o-rings, HS, no o-rings. I think you made the typo.:)

No o-rings:
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sakworldpaintballsupply-store_1917_41716521 (http://www.sakworldpaintball.com/newdeegoepro.html)http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sakworldpaintballsupply-store_1917_41734955 (http://www.sakworldpaintball.com/plecegoddibo.html)
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-51921239013360_1917_6868774 (http://www.pbwarehouse.net/hashpr05egob.html)

Like I said, and it wasn't a typo, the only current bolt with o-rings is the Cure. A few '05 bolts had o-rings, but those are long gone.


I didn't think any other bolts had any but I wasn't going to argue something that i wasn't %100 about.

[Sheps]

I was talking about every other ego bolt. how does it seal without o-rings? sorry for not making myself clear.

Very strict tolerances, sealing problems arise from the bolt being slightly smaller than the breach; leaving a gap for ait to pass though. But if greater care is taken to make the bolt and breach to very specific sizes then they will match up better and leak a lot less; to the point where adding o-rings may not actually provide a better seal.

[wise690]

I think it's been stated before, eventually, the bolt being slightly large, kind of grinds itself down in a way (from normal use) to the correct size of the breach.

[<IONFREAK>]

what kind of lube do you use on an ego bolt? can you use dow33?

[volcom0729]

lool...the bolts are delrin.you dont need to lube em.but if you want to, use a light oil...not a thick lube like 33.

[<IONFREAK>]

would 3-in-1 work or is there a certain oil you would recommend?

[i_luv_strats]

would 3-in-1 work or is there a certain oil you would recommend?

no, dont ever use that. Only use synthetic gun oil, pmi and gold cup.

[<IONFREAK>]

I'm sure glad i got that cleared up. All the stupid rednecks around me would probley say to use 3-in-1 its good enough. well i think thats all my questions about ego bolts. thanks guys for all your input.

[Soul06]

How can you get the SL66 cure bolt aisde form having showed up at huntington beach? I think I read somewhere that you can get it but I forgot exactly how.

[wise690]

I think you can send it to the Eclipse location in Rhode Island and they'll do it.

[ArisugawaSorata]

I say technically, because PE's bolts are made to such good tolerances, that one would be hard-pressed to tell the difference. :)


Shens. You should see the gap of light I can see around my stock E*Tek bolt.

[volcom0729]

soo are you saying that your etek is ineffecient and that you really noticed like a minimal shot difference?

i use a 45/45 and have a nexus bolt(no orings).ive gotten a hopper + 4 pods off of it.which is pretty damn good for a 45/45.pe bolts are good, no matter if it has orings or not.its just that with orings, itll give u a slight edge.

[ArisugawaSorata]

soo are you saying that your etek is ineffecient and that you really noticed like a minimal shot difference?


Haha, by no means am I saying that. I'm simply noting that the bolt tolerances aren't that great. And taking the opportunity to poke at f2f4. But no, I have no real qualm, o-rings would just provide a better seal in my case, it may be that E*Tek milling is a little inconsistent.

[wise690]

it may be that E*Tek milling is a little inconsistent.
Same case with my stock '06. Around the top of the breech, there is some clearance.

[t51rmkiv]

Same case with my stock '06. Around the top of the breech, there is some clearance.

Was looking at my teamates new sl66 this weekend. Giving it the once over revealed obvious gaps between the upper tube and bolt. This also held to be true with my Dark as well. For anyone having the Cure bolt, with the barrel off can u see gaps between the upper tube and bolt?

[DaPmaster]

it was like that when i had a cure botl in my 06, but then i got a HS and it fits really good with no gaps at all.

[Dave Thibault]

the cure bolt is the best bolt out right now. Its made to help reduce the breaks from force fed loaders on high sleeds. Its ramped at the top unlike the hardshell which will reduce chopage right there. All the hard shell is made to do is increase volocity