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Spyder_Pride
10-05-2006, 03:35 AM
I offered a guy to buy a brand new evil pipe kit for $100. NEVER OPENED. He won it at a tourny. He accepted. However, it has angel threads. He said that the kit comes with a cocker adapter. I'm just wondering if it will drastlly affect my gun's accuracy, break balls and such.
Mackinturk
10-05-2006, 06:48 AM
You know you got ripped off, right? You can get those kits, angel threads w/ adapter of your choice, for $40 online.
Read this: pipe kit thread (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388100)
Spyder_Pride
10-05-2006, 08:55 AM
You know you got ripped off, right? You can get those kits, angel threads w/ adapter of your choice, for $40 online.
Read this: pipe kit thread (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388100)
Well I havent bought it yet. but then again shipping and canadian prices are going to be about 80$ for me. Thanks for telling me though. I'll get the price lower.
synkronics
10-06-2006, 01:08 PM
the adapter would make the barrel kit useless...
TheSpy11
10-06-2006, 02:22 PM
He's just trying to rip you off. The barrel adapter is not what you want for a kit.
Spyder_Pride
10-06-2006, 05:27 PM
the adapter would make the barrel kit useless...
how so?
Spyder_Pride, beyond you will atempt buy some "magic" barrel or barrel kit, please take a think above that how it actually works. :-(
Spyder_Pride
10-06-2006, 05:53 PM
Spyder_Pride, beyond you will atempt buy some "magic" barrel or barrel kit, please take a think above that how it actually works. :-(
Explain.
The (one diameter) adapter will be actually work like barrel back. So, this combination - barrel adapter + barrel kit is tottaly unreasonable - when you can choose the "middle" part of your barrel but not the back part of the barrel.
If you can, buy good paint for your stock barrel diameter. When you can not select your paint (FPO limits) then you perhaps need another barrel... or if you interchange the fields often, barrel kit. But without barrel adapter :-) or with diferent diametres barrel adapters... and it will be crackedness.
Spyder_Pride
10-06-2006, 06:22 PM
Yeah but the paint is still going to hit the bore size and accurate out the ball. its adapter, bore, then tip.
Yeeh... :-(
When will be the barell back of the barrel kit smaller than the internal diameter of adapter, the ball will hit them already in velocity and you will have nice break.
When will be the barrel back of the kit larger than the adapter diameter, either will be the ball will break already in the adapter or he will bounce in the kit.
Anyway the kit will be useless and you will have only problems with many bondet parts, with many different diametres. Performance of this "barrel" will be negatively afected by manufacturing accuracy of all these parts, his joints, crossing, sealing, difficult cleaning...
It is bull****. The entire thing is that you have somewhere read or heard (presumably from some owner or dealer) that that barrel kits are good, you do not have personal experiences with them and do not think separately.
In reallity, one cheap onepiece medium bore barrel will exceed all these kits in the majority of cases. Some old shool markers have integral barrels and they shoot darts with all paintballs whitch are at least bit round.
Spyder_Pride
10-07-2006, 01:53 PM
Well I bought the barrel and I have to say that the adapter did not affect the bore size. All it really did was extend the breach. As for breaks none.
paintballfolyfe
10-09-2006, 04:41 AM
I really dont understand how you guys said it will effect preformance, would'nt it just make the barrel 1'' to 2'' longer?
I should not much affect the preformance of the gun, but it has effect on preformance of the barrel kit. The point is that the barrel sitzing in middle, where the ball has already some speed is simply "little" inpractical.
He can screw on his marker what he wish, and it can even under some condition somehow work, but there are simply some good solutions and some bad solutions...
Spyder_Pride
10-09-2006, 06:41 AM
I really dont understand how you guys said it will effect preformance, would'nt it just make the barrel 1'' to 2'' longer?
Well it also depends on the bore size of the adapter itsself. I got my the exact size of my breech so theres not really any problems.
paintballfolyfe
10-09-2006, 09:05 AM
Yeah well since im buying the new Spyder Vs2 and i have a cocker threaded evil pipe kite i have to buy a cocker to spyder adapter to use it and the pic of it dosent even look like it will effect it... so i really dont know how that will lead to barrel breaks and accuracy decrease.. but i will have to see
I got my the exact size of my breech so theres not really any problems.
That is good, but anyway, even the long ("prolonged") chamber can induce problems. I have Sterling pump whith has exactly this problem - long chamber - and I have have had problems with small diameter barrels. Optimal is simply that the paint is hold directly in the barrel (integral barrels), or only few of milimetres from her beginning, so he is not so much stressed whe he get over the border.
paintballfolyfe
10-10-2006, 03:23 AM
Well when i buy the adapter and it seems to effect the accuracy ill probably just use the stock barrel on the Vs2 since there suppose to be nice and just order the spyder back evil pipe kit for $50...
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