More questions like usual

[rookieshooter]

I'm glad ive joined this place b/c i have too many things i dont know lol. So here are more ???'s. What is HPA?????? Also what is the best air system for a 98 custom? Compressed air, nitrogen(or the one that starts with an N), or CO2??? Like i mean which one can u get the most shots out of with a 20oz. Also which one has the most consistensy of shots allthrought the tank??? Which one is lightest? thnx for those that respond as usual

[Cpt. Morgan]

HPA and Nitrogen are the same thing. HPA = Highly Compressed Air, and Nitrogen is basically Air just with a different name. Oxygen is also a name I have heard people say instead of HPA/Nitrogen. Nitro is a short form for for Nitrogen.

HPA is essentially the cleanest, most consistent gas (all HPA tanks have a built in regulator) and in general on MOST guns you will see the most number of shots of of HPA carbon fiber tanks. This is not true with Tippmann's because they are gas hogs by nature.

There are two basic kinds of HPA tanks. Steel tanks (which are cheaper, heavier and have a fill limit of up to 3000PSI thus you get fewer shots per tank) and Carbon Fiber tanks (are lighter, most often have a higher fill capacity from 3000PSI up to 5000PSI and are more expensive). Both are equally consistent depending on the tank regulator.

The first 2 digits in a tank description (68/4500) indicate size (68 being 68 cubic inch) and the last 4 digits indicate the max fill pressure (4500 being that, it it is not safely recommended to fill the tank above that pressure).

As I said, most guns get most shots per tank on HPA (cept Tippy guns) and HPA is need for ANY high end gun. Tippmann guns get the most shots per tank out of CO2 when the tank is a/s (anti-syphoned) and is being run through a Palmer's Male Stabilizer.

Off a 20oz you can expect close to half a case of paint with that set up (I have that one and its exceptionally consistent). If you don't do that, HPA tanks (68/4500 tanks and ones bigger in size) get more shots per tank (only a few hundred more).

HPA is a investment but out of my experience, I prefer running CO2 on my A-5. If you go HPA you will want a high pressure bottle not a low pressure ones. LP (low pressure) tanks are only suppose to be used on certain Low pressure guns. Tippmann's not being one of them.

When it comes down to it, HPA is a investment (if your going to get a higher end gun soon enough).

[pbmike1888]

that basically sums it up. lol. good job. i use co2 on my 98 custom, but i just purchased an ion off of a friend, so im going to buy a 68/4500 HPA tank with a good regulator so i can use the tank on both guns.

[rookieshooter]

LOL uve answered all my questions and in a way that i can understand can u hit me up with it man??? Thnx for the help

[PTE. O'Hearn]

Yeah good job Cpt. Morgan, that was some mighty fine explaining.

[Trulyoldnavy]

HPA and Nitrogen are the same thing. HPA = Highly Compressed Air, and Nitrogen is basically Air just with a different name. Oxygen is also a name I have heard people say instead of HPA/Nitrogen. Nitro is a short form for for Nitrogen.

HPA is essentially the cleanest, most consistent gas (all HPA tanks have a built in regulator) and in general on MOST guns you will see the most number of shots of of HPA carbon fiber tanks. This is not true with Tippmann's because they are gas hogs by nature.

Excellent job except for a couple little things. N2 (Nitrogen, Nitro) is actually the cleanest and most consistant. However, it is also the most expensive to make and therefore is not often used in paintball. HPA and N2 are not the same. HPA consists of 21% oxygen, 78% nitrogen and 1% other. Do not confuse O2 (oxygen) with N2 or HPA. O2 can be dangerous around fire or heat producing materials. The chances of ever getting O2 by accident are slim, unless you go to a gas yard to fill your own storage tanks. If you tell them oxygen, they'll give it to you.

[synkronics]

HPA and Nitrogen are the same thing. HPA = Highly Compressed Air, and Nitrogen is basically Air just with a different name. Oxygen is also a name I have heard people say instead of HPA/Nitrogen. Nitro is a short form for for Nitrogen.

HPA is essentially the cleanest, most consistent gas (all HPA tanks have a built in regulator) and in general on MOST guns you will see the most number of shots of of HPA carbon fiber tanks. This is not true with Tippmann's because they are gas hogs by nature.

There are two basic kinds of HPA tanks. Steel tanks (which are cheaper, heavier and have a fill limit of up to 3000PSI thus you get fewer shots per tank) and Carbon Fiber tanks (are lighter, most often have a higher fill capacity from 3000PSI up to 5000PSI and are more expensive). Both are equally consistent depending on the tank regulator.

The first 2 digits in a tank description (68/4500) indicate size (68 being 68 cubic inch) and the last 4 digits indicate the max fill pressure (4500 being that, it it is not safely recommended to fill the tank above that pressure).

As I said, most guns get most shots per tank on HPA (cept Tippy guns) and HPA is need for ANY high end gun. Tippmann guns get the most shots per tank out of CO2 when the tank is a/s (anti-syphoned) and is being run through a Palmer's Male Stabilizer.

Off a 20oz you can expect close to half a case of paint with that set up (I have that one and its exceptionally consistent). If you don't do that, HPA tanks (68/4500 tanks and ones bigger in size) get more shots per tank (only a few hundred more).

HPA is a investment but out of my experience, I prefer running CO2 on my A-5. If you go HPA you will want a high pressure bottle not a low pressure ones. LP (low pressure) tanks are only suppose to be used on certain Low pressure guns. Tippmann's not being one of them.

When it comes down to it, HPA is a investment (if your going to get a higher end gun soon enough).
that's about all there is to tell you

[Chillie Boots]

"all HPA tanks have a built in regulator"


is it possible that this internal reg could be set low when it comes from manufacture??


and if so can it be adjested??

[Cpt. Morgan]

Excellent job except for a couple little things. N2 (Nitrogen, Nitro) is actually the cleanest and most consistant. However, it is also the most expensive to make and therefore is not often used in paintball. HPA and N2 are not the same. HPA consists of 21% oxygen, 78% nitrogen and 1% other. Do not confuse O2 (oxygen) with N2 or HPA. O2 can be dangerous around fire or heat producing materials. The chances of ever getting O2 by accident are slim, unless you go to a gas yard to fill your own storage tanks. If you tell them oxygen, they'll give it to you.

Hmm... thanks for the info. Never knew that. I have always thought them to be all the same just under different names.

"all HPA tanks have a built in regulator"


is it possible that this internal reg could be set low when it comes from manufacture??


and if so can it be adjested??

Some can but manufactures have been making HPA tanks for years... they are very very concise and only SOMETIMES mix up lp and hp regs... thats about it.

On PMI tanks you can take the valve apart... although I'd never risk my life doing such a thing.

[dukedude4evr]

hmmm does a palmers male stabilizer work on a custom pro? And also, can anyone show me a picture of what an a/s looks like? i know what IT IS, but not wat it looks like

[synkronics]

a/s is inside the co2 tank theres a sticky in the air system forum...air system acessorys or somethign like that. Also if you get a vertical adapter you can put a palmers reg on a 98 i think

[Cpt. Morgan]

a/s is inside the co2 tank theres a sticky in the air system forum...air system acessorys or somethign like that. Also if you get a vertical adapter you can put a palmers reg on a 98 i think

100% correct.