would this marker be any good for sniping?

[Paintballa_2232]

http://www.specialopspaintball.com/shop/product_detail.asp?SKU=100+0010&CAT=106203. well i just want a little input because its real exspensive and dont really know where else to put this topic.

[lotus_esprit5]

that has got to be the biggest waste of money I have ever seen.

It's a Tac-1 automag with a bunch of accessories that you don't need, and an extremely inflated price. you could buy a Tac-1 for $450, and put a new barrel, Q-loader, and stock on it for less than the price of that thing. specops is just trying to rip off noobs.

although some ppl like Q-loaders, they have numerous drawbacks (hard to reload, low capacity, etc). the stock isn't really needed when you have a tank that does the same thing (unless you're using a remote). it's not going to be any more accurate or have more range than any other gun with a decent barrel. for that price you could buy a high-end speedball gun and hopper which will be just as accurate, faster, smoother, smaller, and lighter than that, it would be just as good in woodsball and, in addition, be useable in speedball as well. you could even buy an Ion which, although not as durable or high-quality as a mag, would basically do the same thing.

you can be a "sniper" in paintball with just about any gun. it depends more on the way you play than the type of gun you use. any gun will have the same range (except flatlines) and same accuracy (with a good barrel, regulator, and paint) as anything else.

also, if you truly want to be a "sniper", why even waste money on an electronic gun? do you need the speed when going for "one shot, one kill"? you could buy a mech gun and it would suit your needs just fine. after you put a stock, 20 inch barrel, and all the other heavy, large "sniper" equipment on a gun (which doesn't actually do anything but waste money) you're not exactly going to be able to do much with it other than sit in the woods for 20 minutes waiting for ppl to walk by.

if you really want to snipe, buy a used mech mag or cocker or something for cheap, put a nice barrel on it (no longer than 16 inches, and the only reason to even have it that long is to poke through leaves and undergrowth), a nice inline to improve your consistency if its a cocker, thats all you need, and you wont have to be stuck carrying around a $900 gun that weighs almost 5 pounds and is huge. and once again, be aware than sniping doesn't depend on your gun since they all have the same range, it depends on how you play.

[malcontent]

woah, they're still trying to sell the longbow mod? for that much?!?
yeesh.

ok, you dont even need a semi for the style of play your thinking of. playing as a "sniper" your pretty much setting up ambushes and sneaking around. get a good pump. and a pistol. ya wont need more than that. and it would still cost you less. Zeus's run less than 200 bucks now. they're reliable. and a used phantom can be found practicly anywhere.

[spyderpilot642]

theres no such thing as "sniping" in paintball, no gun can shoot farther than another and it wont get that accurate to shoot all the way down the field, i say thats a waste of money, if you really want a type of gun like that i say just get a pump

[malcontent]

its not about shooting further. its about the fact that a snipers job is to pick its targets and observe. there by, stealth and ambush is the key. not the fact that most sniper rifles have mile long ranges at minimum.

in reality, a marine can hit the same target 300 feet further away than your basic army recruit. why? because of training. if one person has one paintball marker for more than three years and fires it constantly, he knows which way the ball will most likely go.

heres the actual dictionary definition.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna.html) - Cite This Source (http://dictionary.reference.com/cite.html?pt=snipe&ia=luna&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fbrowse %2Fsnipe) snipe  /snaɪp/ Pronunciation Key (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/) - Show Spelled Pronunciation (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/)[snahyp] Pronunciation Key (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/) - Show IPA Pronunciation (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/) noun, plural snipes, (especially collectivelyhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png) snipe for 1, 2; verb sniped, snip‧ing.
–noun 1.any of several long-billed game birds of the genera Gallinago (Capella) and Limnocryptes, inhabiting marshy areas, as G. gallinago (common snipe), of Eurasia and North America, having barred and striped white, brown, and black plumage. 2.any of several other long-billed birds, as some sandpipers. 3.a shot, usually from a hidden position. –verb (used without object) 4.to shoot or hunt snipe. 5.to shoot at individuals as opportunity offers from a concealed or distant position: The enemy was sniping from the roofs. 6.to attack a person or a person's work with petulant or snide criticism, esp. anonymously or from a safe distance.
[Origin: 1275–1325; ME snype (n.) < ON -snīpa (in mȳrisnīpa moor snipe); c. Norw snipa, Icel snīpa; cf. Dan sneppe, G Schnepfe]

—Related formssnipelike, adjective
sniper, noun



now. it says nothing about it having to be from long distance. only "concealed position or safe distance"

i dont know how many times i've explained this to people. almost all of them were speedball pricks that think woodsball is a farce and a waste of time, and have no concept of the game other than a court filled with balloons or pallets, and the entire idea of accuracy through volume is the only way to hit something.

[Team Chokepoint]

I smell a flame war.

[xXBloodLustACXx]

Smells kind of like feet.

I'm not gonna flame though, I play speedball and recently have been playing more "woods-styled" games, I'm calling it that just because I'm always moving and never hiding unless I have to, it's basically speedball in a outdoor field, it's really fun. Myself and all my friends have speedball markers (I had an Ion and I'm getting an Angel) and we still pick people off from far away, 14 inch barrels and none of those fancy doodads. Honestly, any high end speed gun will serve you very well in the woods, because they all operate in ways that make them way more accurate than most "milsim" markers being sold. They are light, quiet, and have the speed when you most need it.

If you want something that conserves paint though, I'd get a nice HPA tank, a cocker with a 14-16 inch barrel, and a Revvy. I don't know anything about cockers though so a reg would probably help a lot and there's probably a ton of upgrades that help performance.

Bottom line, don't fall for "scenario" markers. They are such a waste.

[Paintballa_2232]

yea i think im just gonna get the TAC-1 with a fast hopper and HPA.

[malcontent]

Bloodlust, the only thing that makes a marker more accurate than another is the person useing it.

i was able to hit targets consistantly with a stingray2 simply because i knew which way the ball was most likely gonna go. ofcourse with a 3inch spinning barrel that ball wasnt always guaranteed to go straight and i knew that. so i compensated. so even a scenario marker can be just as effective.

time and time again i've proven that its not the marker that makes the player, its the player that makes the marker.

[smrtprts]

Cocker or Phantom.

[Team Chokepoint]

Bloodlust, the only thing that makes a marker more accurate than another is the person useing it.

That's simply not true. No matter how skilled a player is, he will hit his target more often with equipment that produces a narrow shot pattern than one that produces a wide one. If someone really wants to try to follow a "one shot, one kill" style then he needs the best paint, barrel, and regs that money can buy.

[lotus_esprit5]

i was able to hit targets consistantly with a stingray2 simply because i knew which way the ball was most likely gonna go. ofcourse with a 3inch spinning barrel that ball wasnt always guaranteed to go straight and i knew that. so i compensated. so even a scenario marker can be just as effective. so a tippmann with a stock barrel will be just as accurate as a tippmann with a CP 2-piece? I agree with the other things you said but as far as accuracy, sorry man I'm not buying that. sure, skill is a big, perhaps the biggest, factor in aiming. but you can't anticipate which way a ball is going to curve every single shot. It varies too much, not to mention the inconsistencies in the paint, unless you're using really really good paint. even if a gun/barrel combo always makes the ball curve a certain way, it will still vary too much for it to consistently be accurately compensated for. having a good barrel and using good paint will make you, and your gun, more accurate than even the most experienced player using a stingray because it takes the guesswork out of it. you know exactly where your shot will go: pretty much straight where you aim it. so as long as you have the skill to aim accurately at something, you can hit it.

[punk_rocker543]

Snipers are Campers.

[inuyasharox4776]

OMG LOL 1 4r3 the 1337 sinpz0r. :dodgy: A "sniper" is not real. I could "pick out my targets and use stealth" with my Timmy. Dont waste your money on that piece of crap, just use that 900$ and get a gun worth buying.

[punk_rocker543]

All a "sniper" ever got was shot in the back of the head by his own team.

[Mr. Aardvark]

yea i think im just gonna get the TAC-1 with a fast hopper and HPA.
/thread, morons.