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ClockworkMiller
02-23-2002, 04:25 PM
Today, my team made the very large investment of a full day, full on practice. I know it doesnt sound like much, but it was our first, and we were all very pumped. We purchased air and field passes, along with paint the day before hand, so we could just get straight to playing with little hastle. That turned out not to be the case.

When we got there, there seemed to be a large gathering of recball players, well, not large, maybe 50 to 60 overall. It was also a hot day, and with little shade provided, it would be very dehydrating as well. One of our players asked if we could use the hyperball field to run drills. They man asked refered us to the large man in the Dye hat. He was of course too busy, so we waited. We joined the open game, and played a few annoying rounds. During these rounds, we discovered some very disturbing features of Sudden Impact.

1. No arm bands identifying paid players. Basically this isnt so much a problem as an annoyance, because there is no way to know if someone has paid or not, for All Day Air or Field Fees.
2. No chronographing. They do have a fireing range, and a single chronograph, but that doesnt mean they use it. My team of course made sure that we were all shooting around the "recomended" 280fps. But this wasnt required. In fact, it was never brought up.
-these last two are in violation of either their insurance policy (basically if you didnt pay, you didnt sign a waiver, which means 100% liability on the part of Sudden Impact) or Arizona State Law, which labels any paintball gun shooting consistantly over 320fps a lethal weapon (no, im not kidding), which shooting in public is defined as a felony, again, Sudden Impact would also be held liable for this.
3. The refs dont care. Unless you get gogged, they dont pull you out. They just make sure no one is beating someone else with a marker. They also never paint checked. I asked a ref to paint check this player about 4 times, and he ignored me while I watched several shots break on his legs and arms. This is just unprofessional.

That alone discuraged me from returning to the field, but I would stay for the rest of the day, just to play it out. When we had a lunch break (about 6 games into the day, around noon), I went over to the shack they call an office, to ask if we could use an open field (as only one group was playing, all but one field would be open at once) to run drills. He said no. I asked, probably annoyingly as I tend to, why. I was shocked by his response. "Because I said so". Nothing I said would ever warrant such a response, and furthermore, I was appaled that he would treat any customer that way. I then asked "excuse me" politely, not to try and irk him further. He then clarrified that in order to use any field, a ref must be present, even for practices. And in order to do so, you would need a private group. Which would require a minimum deposit of 350 dollars. Just to put that into persepctive, this run down, dirt ***, ****ty field was asking for a 350 dollar deposit, while SC Village (yes, THE SC Village) only asks for a 250 dollar deposit. This was outrageous. So I laughed at him slightly, and walked back to where my team was cleaning their gear. After a discussion that lasted no more than a minute, we packed up our gear and left. Next week we will be practicing in Maricopa (about an hour and a half a way in Phoenix). Just though I should share this with you all.

Lloyd

Friday
02-23-2002, 06:47 PM
Wow, sorry to hear about that Miller :( No chronoing? Unprofessional refs? I'll keep that in mind.

borderpatrol
02-24-2002, 01:17 PM
hey i dunno what the hell you are talking about. i go there a lot and it isnt a thing like you mentioned. if you would have stayed they would have let you practice after the public session was over because team sudden impact and other teams practice then. i dont think u kno what you are talking about. i kno the refs there and they are not a thing like you mentioned. there is chronoing and they chrono at the very beginning of the day. mabye they didnt chrono you but they do have a chrono and use it. i admit that some of the refs are stupid as hell because they dont listen to you but almost all of them will listen to you.

ClockworkMiller
02-24-2002, 01:25 PM
I was just stating what happened. Im sorry if you feel different, but that was the experience my team endured over the weekend.

Orgazmo
02-25-2002, 02:56 PM
Hey, lloyd

I was the kid with the Purple bushmaster, and i think i know what your talking about.

Why are you bad mouthing kevin and jerry? They are really cool guys and maybe you couldnt because of something thats none of your buisness. Did you ask right when you got there? ask at the store. Im sure that you are mad because you had to play open, but give the guys a break, they work hard, and just because something didnt go YOUR way, you have to bad motuh them. Ask in advance, if you cant, dont get so mad, try another day.

Statxx
02-25-2002, 03:27 PM
:pissed: Man think whatevr u want. PBHQ is the best filed in tucson. If ur pissed about practice u could have asked for a time when u could practice. After rec-ball is over is when evry1 practices. and the refs have always checked people when i asked and they do pull them out if they r hit. So sorry u had a bad experience n e way. hope ull try us out again and if im there ill try to help u out so u have a better experience btu plz dont start dissing the field so bad

ClockworkMiller
02-25-2002, 06:16 PM
you're interpretation of what happened is just that. I just laid down the facts of what happened. I believe it was asked if we could practice, and they said it was ok at the store (Im not entirely sure because I wasnt there). The point being that if the treated myself and my team very poorly, and were very rude to us all, not to mention unsafe. Sudden Impact may be the "best field in tucson" but take into account that the only other field in Tucson needs a tetinous shot just looking at it (Desert Fox).

Maybe I am just spoiled because I play at Tombstone and SC Village back home, but there is still no excuse for either the way we were treated or the way it was run.

Orgazmo
02-26-2002, 01:05 PM
Im sorry that you feel that way. I ref on occasion and believe me, They chrono before games start and after lunch. Perhaps you missed it because i chronoed 3 times, all below 280. From now on, ask YOURSELF. believe me, i cant count how many times my friends told me something and it didnt turn out the way they said. I hope that you will do buisness with them again, there a great store IMO.

Statxx
02-26-2002, 01:32 PM
:pissed: ok dude im sorry u had a bad experience i ref there too and im sure that i crono before games and afte rlunch like orgazmo said. Ive been to SC village and it is a good field but their service isnt always great either. Either way i hope u will consider coming and doing business again and if u do stay after the rec ball to practice which is when we all do. Also if u hear somethign froms omeone and it turns out to be wrong then dont be pissed at us cuz maybe they gave u false info not us. And another quick thing the $350 deposit would be for u renting otu soem of the fields for the day. Anyway im sorry u had a bad time but most people do, hope to cya l8r.

ClockworkMiller
02-26-2002, 01:33 PM
orgazmo, I'll definately be shopping at PBHQ. the store and the field are two different enterprises, even if owned by the same company.

My team has already decided that the fields in maricopa are much better and there are fields designated spcifically for practice, so we can use them without question, and practice against other teams.

ShOcK SiLkZ
02-26-2002, 02:30 PM
PBHQ has always been a sweet field to play on and ref for. Most of the staff there is pretty cool, and its a fun place to go out and play some rec ball, or they hold tourneys every so often too for the more competitive player. It definately surpases "Desert Fox" by 101%. You may have had a bad experience once, but im sure if you try Sudden Impact out again, you will have a good time.