Invert Mini Lies!!!

[SemiLethal]

I was looking at p8ntballer.com's reviews, and reading on on the E-Mag. I had already seen that the Mini was very similar to the automag, being a single tube marker, and not having been informed otherwise, I believe the air runs through the grip to the back of the marker. Anyway, I was reading the review at it said "The trigger activates the Hall Effect sensor when it is pulled." And the Mini called it propriatary new technology. And I actually thought the "new" trigger mechanism was cool.

[Cocker22]

so wait how do they lie......?

[shotbirdsfallin]

lol

[SemiLethal]

They lied in saying the hall effect sensor (Anyone care to explain what that even is?) was new, and it wasn't because the e-mag already has it.

[shotbirdsfallin]

maybe they applied it differently?

[Head Hunter 221]

What shot said

[SemiLethal]

Well, I guess, but I think it is unlikely because the two applications practical for a paintball gun are pressure sensors(Likely), and proximiny sensors(Not as likely, because it would make it harder to adjust the trigger pull)

[ZippyZX2]

They lied in saying the hall effect sensor (Anyone care to explain what that even is?) was new, and it wasn't because the e-mag already has it.

A hall effect sensor is used to detect a magnetic field. It is used in a lot of everyday stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect_sensor

The trigger probably has a magnet in it somewhere.

[SemiLethal]

Yeah I looked it up on wikipedia too.

[PlayHardDieHard]

LMFAO they never said it was new only to the mini, i belive he said that the halls effect trigger is "not entierly(sp) new"...... wach the tech video with the sound on.....heres a link for you

http://www.invertpaintball.com/?page=minivideo2

[SemiLethal]

Yeah I'm not really mad i just thought it would be kinda funny. Also, the E-Mag has the battery in the foregrip. Like the Mini

[Indecisive]

The proprietary tech in the gun is the poppet and the solenoid I don't think they ever make an exclusive claim on the Hall effect sensor.

[SemiLethal]

He said "that is entirely new" i think, but It is hard to tell with those morons firing the gun in the background.

[bennyboy7788]

hu gives a crap? its a great gun. i'm getting 1

[dukedude4evr]

hmmmm, lemme check this, i give a crap??? Invert lied, could (over drastic, but automags and mags aren't doin well anymore, so they could get some cash) sue them, and lol-

[dontknow]

deal with it people, there's nothing new about the mini except the board in the foregrip!

[aperson]

AGD tried to sue Empire, but National has enough money that AGD would have just screwed themselves over even more if they tried to sue. I know this because my boss(who happens to own a paintball store ;)) told me

[Zakushark]

He said "that is entirely new" i think, but It is hard to tell with those morons firing the gun in the background.

"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun."

[dontknow]

AGD tried to sue Empire, but National has enough money that AGD would have just screwed themselves over even more if they tried to sue. I know this because my boss(who happens to own a paintball store ;)) told me
No they didn't, and if you knew than you would know that national ownes agd europe
agd culdn't sue them because of other reasons and they never tried

[BigTarget04]

Actually the mini has a lot more in common with a mag than just the trigger and the battery. Spring returned blow forward bolt and regulator built into the firing assembly (just that it was on the back of the mag and is now in the asa of the mini)

[4THDEGREE]

Funny thing. If you look in the Bob Long Stickies, there is a guide to making a hall effect trigger on a Timmy from quite awhile ago.....so much for new.

[Indecisive]

The mini is much closer to the king cobra than it is to a mag. The mag is just more widely recognized.

[AmbushOrigin]

AGD tried to sue Empire, but National has enough money that AGD would have just screwed themselves over even more if they tried to sue. I know this because my boss(who happens to own a paintball store ;)) told me


now this i chuckled at.. and to think simon voluntarily went to invert to help design the marker. Guy goes from AGD to new company ,adds similar design from a mag but improves it.. and ppl have to complain.

i love freedom of speech

[Uziel Gal]

The mini is much closer to the king cobra than it is to a mag. The mag is just more widely recognized.

King Cobra? Are you referring to the Brass eagle pump action from around 1990? Mechanical, back bottle, 14 inch barrel (which separated the King Cobra from the shorter barreled Cobra model), closed bolt (well, it is a pump after all), sprung hammer and plunger valve operation, and, well, a pump? I don't see the similarity. :confused:

[equipmentcounts]

No, it is some taiwanesse gun.
http://www.zdspb.com/tech/kingcobra/index.htmlhttp://www.zdspb.com/tech/kingcobra/index.html

[Uziel Gal]

Aah, I have seen that marker before (:yuck: once seen, never forgotten - it's the stuff of nightmares), just didn't remember that they had called it the King Cobra. As Zakushark stated, there's nothing new under the sun, and Brass Eagle got to that name long ago.

[Kook-T2]

if theres nothing new to the mini explain why it has no hose?

[shotbirdsfallin]

ice epic didnt use macroline/or any other hose either.

[Uziel Gal]

There were also "hoseless" conversions available years ago for the Phantom and Sterling pump action markers.

[killershocker]

they might just not of done there research

[Kook-T2]

ice epic didnt use macroline/or any other hose either.

cool didnt now that

[<IONFREAK>]

The design and layout of the valve is the main "innovative" (sp?) point that NPS is trying get across. The valve has NEVER been used before in this way. The other small things such as the HES trigger and the gas through grip frame are not *new* but they have only been used on old outdated markers. E-mags are the newest guns that can preform almost as well as the mini and have the most things simular and they are almost a decade old. Putting all of the features of the mag and king cobra into a poppet single tube marker is what is so *new* about it.

[Indecisive]

They were mostly good alone and now they're doing very well together, aside from the recent board problem, which will be fixed in a few weeks.

This is also not the first gun to have board problems or have problems for that matter.

[Bellicose]

The other small things such as the HES trigger and the gas through grip frame are not *new* but they have only been used on old outdated markers.


How dare you stay Sterling's are old and out dated. Blasphemy! Every one know that the guy with the pump is the best player on the field.

And as for the comments about "nothing is new any more," that is hogwash. Didn't they say that before electopnumatics? Wasn't it said before a propane marker hit stores? Wasn't that said countless times during human existance that everything that can be learned and distovered has been learned and discovered? If you believe that, then you are behind the times, stuck in the past. I guarantee that in 10 years, they will have come up with markers that are vastly different than anything you see now, just as markers have advanced in these past 10 years.

[E-lectronic]

are you for "lol"?!?!

[<IONFREAK>]

are you for "lol"?!?!

what are you talking about?