First marker: Spyder MR1?

[sand_man]

Ok, I'm new to paintball, im a noob :( but, anyway I'm in the market for my first paintball marker... I've played 3-4 times, I freaking love the sport.... now to the point. I'm thinking of a Spyder MR1 for my first, I'm definatly a born woodsballer, not going to be playing much speedball. So, I've shot 98cs and yes they are tanks...but I dont know if I want to spend the money on it, then have to up it alot...also, from what I'm told, it required open-heart surgery to clean...so, is a Spyder MR1 a good starting woodsball marker?:confused: :confused: yes or no?

[^_^]

Yes it is. Also for about the price of a 98 custom you could get a MR1 and a New barrel

Kingman Spyder MR1 $100
J&J Ceramic barrel $ 35
$135

And 98 Customs are $140.. so I would say go with the MR1
Oh and have fun and play safe :)

[SUSPECT 0]

It`s a good starter gun but I heard it chops alot,but an ACS bolt will fix that

[413sonix]

Get the Spyder Imagine. Don't tell me that its electric and isn't built for the woods but it is. Hell my friend uses a DM3 for woodsball. It has an electric trigger frame capable of firing up to 14 BPS in semi-auto, 3-shot, 6-shot, and full-auto. Plus it can be found on www.actionvillage.com (http://www.actionvillage.com) for $63! Cheaper than the MR1 and 98 Custom and way better. Then get a eVLution II loader made by Viewloader to keep up with it and a 20oz. Co2 tank to last you plenty of shots. The mask, pod pack, pods, barrel bag, squegee, and paintballs are up to you.

If you insist on a MR1 or 98 Custom get the MR1. Its easier to work on and performs just as equal as the Tippmann and is less of an air hog for half of the price of the Tippmann. Tippmann's are only good for upgradability and their durability now. We ran my friend's 98 Custom over with a van and it still shoots.

[di$TOrTed]

If you like the way the MR1 looks, get it, it will work great for you, or save up some more $$$ and get an MR2.

[SUSPECT 0]

I personally think you should get a Pirannah EXT becuase its electric,it has a regulator and I found it for the same price as the MR1 on Order paintball.com for only $89.99

[)DEMON(]

It`s a good starter gun but I heard it chops alot,but an ACS bolt will fix that

Well that is a whole load of bull. I have an MR1 and I have never chopped a ball, out of 1000+. As a bush baller I find no need for an electronic grip, semi auto is fine. The MR1 also has a very good stock barrel, get some nice paint the fits your barrel good like this paint: http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/82/ and you will be all set.

The MR1 is also very easy to clean, very easy to take apart as well. I did however have to cut my spring to get the velocity under 300fps but then I got a spring kit and am running mine on the blue spring.

Very good marker.

[413sonix]

Yeah I noticed the MR1 is surprisingly accurate for a Spyder.

[Jodo_Kast]

Yes, the Mr. 1 is a very nice woodsball marker, I have a MR-2, and I absolutly love it for woods play, although here latly I've had a ton of ball breaks in the chamber here latly, I'd still recommend it. And actualy here latly I've been wishing I had a MR-1 as appose to a MR-2, so I could have a Mech back-up.

But yes, I'd recommend that series of markers, but the stock will get in the way unless you have a remote, and most masks don't allow you to look down the stock properly.

[)DEMON(]

All you have to do is cut the top section out of the stock and you can aim with your mask on.

A remote also works well.

[Jodo_Kast]

Yeah, but without any modification I meant you can't aim with your mask on, of corse after you hack the top half of it off it would work. :P

[sand_man]

Thanks everyone, I agree with the spyder imagine, only that I would not really want to pay for the extra paint i would use to fire that many bps :| Also, it probably is a bit harder on the upkeep than a mech like the MR1. Thanks for the suggestion, I really just wanted to know if there were any outstanding problems that would dramtically affect performance. My bud just got a Spyder TL-R and we are gonna take some names and paint some (insert name for butt here ;) ) seeing as all my friends will have to rent:D
Thanks guys, and with the Imagine, if theres anything above semi, the tempation would be too great, and I would fire so much paint off I'd be broke :cool: .

on a differnt note: would Stingers paintballs be O.K. with the stock barrel? those are a great price (a case for 35 bucks) at my local paintball field...

[Jodo_Kast]

6 out of 8 people gave it either 7 or above in the reveiws, so by those reveiws, it must not be that bad of a paint....One guy says he recommends it for rec play, so if thats what your aiming to do, I'd say go for it. For my rec play, I always use Wal-Mart Monster balls, which work prety well for "cheap quality paint".

Is your feild FPO, or BYOP?

[sand_man]

The field is Gorilla Wars Paintball, it is BYOP, however they sell paint there for not bad at all

[Jodo_Kast]

Thats good, my feild sence about a month has changed to FPO, as one of the kids I went with one time about a month ago froze his paint, and then later bragged about it at his school.:eyes: I feel lucky coming out of that day actualy, on the account of during a speedball match, he tagged me out by shooting me in the side of the mask. It could of easily went threw my goggles.:pissed: Hopefully something dosen't happen like this and you can cont. to BYOP, I spent a fortune on paint as it was, now its even worse. :P

[SUSPECT 0]

Well that is a whole load of bull. I have an MR1 and I have never chopped a ball, out of 1000+. As a bush baller I find no need for an electronic grip, semi auto is fine. The MR1 also has a very good stock barrel, get some nice paint the fits your barrel good like this paint: http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/82/ and you will be all set.

The MR1 is also very easy to clean, very easy to take apart as well. I did however have to cut my spring to get the velocity under 300fps but then I got a spring kit and am running mine on the blue spring.

Very good marker.
I never said that it chops for sure,all I said is that I heard it chops alot,I don`t have any personal experience with an MR1

[413sonix]

Thanks everyone, I agree with the spyder imagine, only that I would not really want to pay for the extra paint i would use to fire that many bps :| Also, it probably is a bit harder on the upkeep than a mech like the MR1. Thanks for the suggestion, I really just wanted to know if there were any outstanding problems that would dramtically affect performance. My bud just got a Spyder TL-R and we are gonna take some names and paint some (insert name for butt here ;) ) seeing as all my friends will have to rent:D
Thanks guys, and with the Imagine, if theres anything above semi, the tempation would be too great, and I would fire so much paint off I'd be broke :cool: .

on a differnt note: would Stingers paintballs be O.K. with the stock barrel? those are a great price (a case for 35 bucks) at my local paintball field...

The Imagine is just as easy to maintain as a mechanical Spyder. Before and after every game just lube up the internals and clean it. But you don't have to shoot fast with the Imagine. Like I said its capped at 14 BPS so you can't shoot too much. Plus fields only let you use semi anyways.

And I don't know about Stingers but I know Diablo Heat is a pretty good paintball and its $36 a case.

[sand_man]

Well, yall have been real helpful, but Christmas is here, and presents were opened last night....and Lo and behold, what did I get? A spyder Victor II, the original Spyder marker I was interested in. Apperently my dad ordered it 2 months ago :O and I hadn't told him about a spyder MR1...but, I'm happy my friend got a TL-R for Christmas, so after New Year's we're gonna go to Gorilla Wars and paint some butt :D (note: all my friends will probably use rentals:rolleyes: ) Well, yall have been helpful, I also have about 200 dollars to spend on whatever (paintball ups:D ) I'm going to get a J&J ceramic barrel I think 12 or 14 incher. Any other ups I should get for my new Victor II?

p.s. I forgot: The field if I am correct, lets you fire up to 15 bps, no full auto 3 and 6 round burst only.....I'll let yall know if I was wrong ;)

[shotbirdsfallin]

Gratz! and the Ceramic is a very nice barrel for only $30. I would suggest a 12v revvy. Maybe HPA if you would want to spend the money, PMI sells 72/3000 for $70. But that's just me.

[904paintballer]

I never said that it chops for sure,all I said is that I heard it chops alot,I don`t have any personal experience with an MR1
well of course it chops, its a blind mech blowback, but all you need to do is make sure you have a decent hopper and your detents aren't messed up and it won't be that bad. With a revvy, good detents and fresh paint chops will be at a minimum. I used a VL triad for 2 years and it only chopped once, because the hopper wasn't feeding consistently (VL quantams FTL :tdown:). Be prepared to deal with chops, have a swab/squeegee handy during games and a rag in your tool box.

[413sonix]

For ups get a J&J 14" Ceramic barrel or a CP 1-piece 14" barrel. They're both nice. Then I'd suggest a feedneck WITHOUT HOLES. If you have the cash left get a HPA system. Since its still mechanical you don't need an electronic hopper just yet. I'd save up more money after you get a barrel, feedneck, and HPA system for a electric trigger frame (they have the trigger frame off the Pilot ACS on www.firstcallpaintball.com (http://www.firstcallpaintball.com) for $80, and hte rocking trigger frame for $100? too) and a fast loader like the Eggy III. Then after that all you have to do is convert it to LP, put on a T-board, maybe an ASA, an upgrade tank (unless if you go for a fiber wrapped one right away) and that's about it.

[depotpaintball]

JUst thought id give some positive feedback! I've had my gun a few weeks and shot about 1500-2000 balls out of it without(knock on wood)the first chopped ball! The stock barrel is extremely accurate espescially with the right balls i use Visual Impacts from Wal-Mart And from as far as atleast 100 to 110 ft. away from a tree i shot it no problem with the occasional curve! It is a great gun and i love it!

**Well i guess i should have read the rest of the forums, I thought you were gettin it but if you get the MR1 as a secondary or what ever, hope this helps decide***

[shotbirdsfallin]

I got a 14" Ceramic barrel I'm trying to get rid of. $18shipped. PM if interested :P

[sand_man]

Ah, I bought a 14in smartparts progressive barrel, it shoots very accurately, no chops after 200 rounds not much I know...=)
Plus, it looks pretty sexy on my gun ;)

Also, I think I'll still be using co2 for a while, maybe even a year....HPA seems kinda 'spensive for a noob ya know? the plastic feedneck hadn't crapped out on me yet, but when it does, I'll get a new one :)

[pbsniper07]

:jumping: SOUNDS GOOD MY MAN!:jumping:

[904paintballer]

For ups get a J&J 14" Ceramic barrel or a CP 1-piece 14" barrel. They're both nice. Then I'd suggest a feedneck WITHOUT HOLES. If you have the cash left get a HPA system. Since its still mechanical you don't need an electronic hopper just yet. I'd save up more money after you get a barrel, feedneck, and HPA system for a electric trigger frame (they have the trigger frame off the Pilot ACS on www.firstcallpaintball.com (http://www.firstcallpaintball.com) for $80, and hte rocking trigger frame for $100? too) and a fast loader like the Eggy III. Then after that all you have to do is convert it to LP, put on a T-board, maybe an ASA, an upgrade tank (unless if you go for a fiber wrapped one right away) and that's about it.
Your joking right? So your suggesting he spend ~$300 on his spyder?

If your just trying to get into the sport, don't buy something cheap like a spyder then drop a crap-ton of money into it, just spend enough on it so that it will be comfortable to you. You don't need the LP conversion, the T-board or the E-frame, thats a waste of money. Keep your gun mech, I reccomend you buy a clamping feedneck and a barrel for it, maybe an on/off but thats it. You can go with HPA if you plan to go farther or you can go with co2. If you go with HPA you can use it on the marker you decide to upgrade to, if you go with co2 you will end up needing a new tank. As for the hopper, an egg or a 12v revvy will work fine.

[413sonix]

Your joking right? So your suggesting he spend ~$300 on his spyder?

He said he had about $200 in ups. I listed a few and suggested some he might be able to do to it later on in its life.

[904paintballer]

He said he had about $200 in ups. I listed a few and suggested some he might be able to do to it later on in its life.
I see, but it would still be a huge waste of money. Why not just buy a LP E-spyder that comes with a clamping feedneck and an on/off for $185?

[sand_man]

Well, I don't have that much for ups, i miscalculated, I did not even figure in the paintballs and field fees ill have....guess I'll have to get a job...*sigh*

[Spyder_Pride]

I've always like the MR1 it is a very solid built marker. They have them at rentals at my field. They are well built and can take alot of beatings. GO FOR IT!

[sand_man]

lol man, I said in my posts that I got a victor II....:p

[depotpaintball]

You made a great choice on your barrel i have a 16 in progressive smart parts barrel. I chronoed my gun today with my stock barrel, it shot 309, i took that barrel of and put the 16 in smart parts on and it shot 339!!!!!!! :eek: i was impressed. just thought id let you know you made a wise decision!;)

[sand_man]

I do hope you do not fire it at that speed at other people:eyes: :eyes:
280 is sufficient to cause a good amount of pain if you get shot in thigh, neck, etc

[904paintballer]

You made a great choice on your barrel i have a 16 in progressive smart parts barrel. I chronoed my gun today with my stock barrel, it shot 309, i took that barrel of and put the 16 in smart parts on and it shot 339!!!!!!! :eek: i was impressed. just thought id let you know you made a wise decision!;)
It was most likely just a velocity spike. And your shooting hot, most goggle lenses are only guarneteed to protect up to 320 fps.

[depotpaintball]

Yeah im not saying i wanted to shoot that fast its what the chrono said

[black_angus1]

all markers will eventually chop balls, its called murphy's law. but the mr1 seems to have a problem with the bolt chopping off the detent and chopping like no other. and of course, good paint that fits your barrel is a necessity. also if its really cold outside the balls will become brittle and break alot more often.