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microphage
01-11-2007, 03:04 PM
would the promaster be a good woodsball gun? or is it too much speed for it

413sonix
01-11-2007, 03:13 PM
Speedball markers excell in the woods as they're usually ligher, faster, and more efficent than the usual Tippmann's you see. The only thing the Tippmann has on the ProMaster is upgrades (although no blowback marker will ever perform close to a stock ProMaster) and reliability. Also if the ProMaster's anno is really bright it may make you more visible. The only problem with woods markers such as Tippmann's is they have trouble in speedball as they're longer, heavier, and just make good woods markers really.

Shifty(IconZ)
01-11-2007, 05:10 PM
Speedball markers excell in the woods as they're usually ligher, faster, and more efficent than the usual Tippmann's you see. The only thing the Tippmann has on the ProMaster is upgrades (although no blowback marker will ever perform close to a stock ProMaster) and reliability. Also if the ProMaster's anno is really bright it may make you more visible. The only problem with woods markers such as Tippmann's is they have trouble in speedball as they're longer, heavier, and just make good woods markers really.

He has a point ^.

I'm going to play woodsball for the first time monday with a church group. They advised me my gun wouldn't shoot as far as their PCS US-5 or whatever they're called. The Tippmann lookalikes in my mind. They said mine isn't as accurate either.

My Ion shoots just as far.. Just as accurate.. Faster (if that matters).. Just as reliable.. Lighter.. Want me to keep going?

Get the promaster. Or get a tactical gun if you want to be a scenario player and want the real experiance.

As far as performance, the speedball guns are better but in aesthetics, the scenario guns that are based off real tactical guns kind of take me back to when I was a kid and loved the army.

dead head
01-11-2007, 05:28 PM
Speedball markers excell in the woods as they're usually ligher, faster, and more efficent than the usual Tippmann's you see. The only thing the Tippmann has on the ProMaster is upgrades (although no blowback marker will ever perform close to a stock ProMaster) and reliability. Also if the ProMaster's anno is really bright it may make you more visible. The only problem with woods markers such as Tippmann's is they have trouble in speedball as they're longer, heavier, and just make good woods markers really.

all the info you need is right there ^^^^

413sonix
01-11-2007, 05:45 PM
I wouldn't say a Ion or any other marker is as reliable as a Tippmann. You can hit a Tippy with a car and it won't break!

Shifty(IconZ)
01-11-2007, 06:39 PM
I wouldn't say anything is more reliable than a Tippmann. I take very good care of my Ion and I never have problems. Ever. I say that and everything will probably explode.

microphage
01-11-2007, 11:11 PM
i could see my self owning in woodsball with a promasters...but each ball is 12 cents so that's like....15 bps....so like $1.80/ second lol

Lopez17
01-12-2007, 03:23 AM
Where I play, a large percentage of the players use high end electros to play woodsball. They do this for the same reason that you would get one for speedball play. Namely that high end electros are consistent due to the use of solenoids and regulators. They're designed to be accurate and shoot fast with light triggers and zippy EP operation. They're also designed to withstand the rigors of tournament play which involves lots of sliding, jumping, diving, etc. This translates well into a woodsball/recball atmosphere. The only negative is that some high end markers (spool valves primarily) are gas hogs which is not necessarily a good thing in a long woodsball game.

Where I play it's not uncommon to have 40 v 40 and 50 v 50 walk-on games. Of which over 2/3rds comprise high end markers from Ions right on up to Egos, Vikings, Intimidators, E-Cockers, Matrixes, FS, Borgs, etc.

gage713
01-12-2007, 03:30 AM
i could see my self owning in woodsball with a promasters...but each ball is 12 cents so that's like....15 bps....so like $1.80/ second lol


ummm i only calulated it to be .02 cents a ball :|

Menace67
01-12-2007, 03:32 AM
Buy the better gun you will thank yourself later.

where i play woodsball at you will see everything from Tippmans to ions to timmys to angels its all in what you prefer. i say buy the promaster because if you decide you want to play speedball then you dont have to buy another gun. both guns will work for both!! Thats what i do with my ion, now my A5 i bought for woodsball just collects dust

eyedea40
01-12-2007, 07:39 AM
I wouldn't say a Ion or any other marker is as reliable as a Tippmann. You can hit a Tippy with a car and it won't break!

I can't tell you how meny times on sat and sun morning i see people with broken markers. I never see any broken tippmans just maybee a gun freezing up from the c02 in cold weather.

microphage
01-12-2007, 05:14 PM
lol, at the field, it's 12 bucks/ 100

gage713
01-14-2007, 04:37 AM
lol, at the field, it's 12 bucks/ 100

are they sick? if i did my math right (wouldnt be suprised if i didnt) thats 240 bucks for a case of paint

Spyder_Man_007
01-14-2007, 12:39 PM
No your math is right, 240 bucks a case. Where I play in MT you can get a case for 60 bucks

buffaugust
01-14-2007, 01:13 PM
the only concern i have about an electro in woodsball is the fact that it's electronic. what happens if you fall in a puddle and soak your marker? it might get fried, unforunately. i'll probably use mine for woodsball sometime, but i do want to get a tippman to have as a backup, and with a response trigger, i'll still get a fast-firing marker, even if it is slower than an electro. and then there's the fact that a tippy can take a lot of other upgrades, including barrels, which is one of the most important things about a marker's accuracy. also, if i'm playing in the woods, i'm normally not at a business but instead i'm in someone's woods near their home, or even at my own home. i don't want to go through a case of paint in two outings, which i might do on a speedball field. so yeah, that's my two cents' worth.

Lopez17
01-15-2007, 03:33 AM
the only concern i have about an electro in woodsball is the fact that it's electronic. what happens if you fall in a puddle and soak your marker? it might get fried, unforunately. i'll probably use mine for woodsball sometime, but i do want to get a tippman to have as a backup, and with a response trigger, i'll still get a fast-firing marker, even if it is slower than an electro. and then there's the fact that a tippy can take a lot of other upgrades, including barrels, which is one of the most important things about a marker's accuracy. also, if i'm playing in the woods, i'm normally not at a business but instead i'm in someone's woods near their home, or even at my own home. i don't want to go through a case of paint in two outings, which i might do on a speedball field. so yeah, that's my two cents' worth.

You're just as likely to do this in the woods as you can on a hyperball field with standing water/puddles. If you're playing outlaw ball there may be other considerations to going with a Tippman vs. a higher end marker, such as the availability of HPA and Paint.

buffaugust
01-15-2007, 06:25 AM
good point lopez, but there is more chance of tripping and falling in said puddle in the woods, where roots and vines would hopefully be more prevalent. i do, however, resent the fact that paintball that isn't played on an organized field is considered "outlaw." i know this is off subject, but please allow me to digress for a moment. i've played paintball with a group of people who didn't go to an organized field. we did, however, chrono; we did enforce rules equal to those of an organized business. the only thing we didn't do is get insurance and a business license, since we weren't selling anything, only asking for compensation equal to the price of an item IF we sold it to someone else. that being said, we DID have people who used electros, myself included. and no, we never had any electronic parts get fried because of moisture, but the danger was still there. we actually played once on a peninsula that laid between a river and a small inlet that served as a boat launch for a river house. the water made natural boundaries, and that was one of my most memorable (and first) paintball experiences. again, several players had electros, and i had a brand new VL orion which i had gotten for Christmas a week or so earlier.
overall, there's nothing wrong with electros on a woodsball field, but just be extra careful that you don't end up shorting it out.

Shifty(IconZ)
01-15-2007, 04:13 PM
Just because it can shoots 15 bps doesn't mean you do..

I've never played woods ball but if I did I would put it on Semi.

The guns are just better in my mind. Smaller, lighter, more compact. You don't want a 60 lb rocket launcher do you.