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lmldrummer
02-11-2007, 05:21 PM
hey, i'm new to the forum, and paintball really, and just didn't know some things

1. what's the difference between electonic triggers and rocking triggers?

2. are walking triggers allowed in tournaments, i've seen them used on t.v. and stuff, but people say they aren't legal, anybody know if they are or not, and if you could show me so i can stop thinking about it lol

3. i've also seen people say to use compressed air instead of co2, and i was wondering why.

sorry if this is in the wrong spot, didn't see another place for it

i may also edit this if i come up with new ones;)

EDIT* crap, i just found the newbie forum, my bad guys

igotablackwrath
02-11-2007, 05:25 PM
i only know the answer to number 2. it all depends on the league.

feel free to correct me if i'm wrong

413sonix
02-11-2007, 05:28 PM
hey, i'm new to the forum, and paintball really, and just didn't know some things

1. what's the difference between electonic triggers and rocking triggers?
They're both electronic, one rocks back and forth on an axis, where the other doesn't.

2. are walking triggers allowed in tournaments, i've seen them used on t.v. and stuff, but people say they aren't legal, anybody know if they are or not, and if you could show me so i can stop thinking about it lol
Walking the trigger is legal in tournies, unless if you mean the Rocking frame, it's fully NPPL and PSP legal.

3. i've also seen people say to use compressed air instead of co2, and i was wondering why.Compressed air is more consistent, and just better for your gun. There's a whole lot of other reasons why, but I can't remember them ATM.

sorry if this is in the wrong spot, didn't see another place for it

i may also edit this if i come up with new ones;)

Just use better spelling and grammar, and you'll be all set.

Oh, and welcome to pbreview.

spray_painter58
02-11-2007, 05:39 PM
question #3-using compressed air has a lot of advantages over co2. evr played paintball w/co2 in 30° wether??? well if u have chances r uve had probs lyk the co2 freezing in the tank...making it very unefficient and fluxuating the velocity greatly. with compressed air none of that happens. it can go in watevr temp. it wants and alwayz the same. also it is cleaner and doesnt hurt the internals of a gun ovr tym lyk co2 is. the only prob is that the tanks r a lot more xpensive than co2 tanks. if u only piantball w/ur friends or not very often id say stick w/co2...cheaper and compressed air isnt really needed

as 4 #1-the rockin trigger is a type of electronic trigger. i kno wat it does but i really dont kno how to explain it very good. it "rocks" back and 4th. hence the name... if u want 2 find out more about it reasearch the spyder electra...it has a rocking trigger...lok at it and it should give u an idea of wat it is.

lmldrummer
02-11-2007, 06:05 PM
Sorry, I should've made it clearer.

I know what a rocking trigger is, but one of my friends was complaining about a electric trigger being faster than a rocking, and that's all he said

So, since a rocking trigger is a type of an electric trigger, i guess he's just dumb.

lmldrummer
02-11-2007, 06:05 PM
Sorry, I should've made it clearer.

I know what a rocking trigger is, but one of my friends was complaining about a electric trigger being faster than a rocking, and that's all he said

So, since a rocking trigger is a type of an electric trigger, i guess he's just dumb.

413sonix
02-12-2007, 03:09 AM
Well, some people shoot slower with a Rocking frame because you have to spread your fingers which feels weird to some, where others can just rip with the Rocking frame.

spray painter58-You just killed the entire english language.

Lopez17
02-12-2007, 03:44 AM
hey, i'm new to the forum, and paintball really, and just didn't know some things

1. what's the difference between electonic triggers and rocking triggers?

A Rocking Trigger is a type of electronic trigger found on some Kingman Spyders. Most people find the design to be rather annoying and it has two switches to enable the user to rock the trigger back and forth to shoot. The vast majority of users will get a much faster rhythm (and a higher BPS) by walking the trigger.

2. are walking triggers allowed in tournaments, i've seen them used on t.v. and stuff, but people say they aren't legal, anybody know if they are or not, and if you could show me so i can stop thinking about it lol

Walking a trigger is what you do when you alternate fingers on your trigger. The force of the trigger as it comes off the switch will enable one trigger to hit, then the next. It allows people to shoot sustained, high rates of fire. It's legal in tournaments. The restrictions to tournament markers are that you have one pull/one shot. Anything more than that is illegal.

3. i've also seen people say to use compressed air instead of co2, and i was wondering why.

Long story short, CO2 isn't a stable and usually isn't a clean marker. It's put into the bottle as a liquid and expands into a gas in the marker. This expansion isn't uniform and can lead to velocity spikes, it's also cold and can freeze critical o-rings in your marker. It doesn't work well with solenoids due to the inconsistency issues. You can get CO2 to work on most markers by involving multiple regulators and expansion chambers and also by adding an anti-siphon tube but at that point you should be looking at HPA. HPA is better because the tank has a regulator (usually High Pressure or Low Pressure output but some tanks are adjustable). This ensures that you're getting a consistent feed of air into the marker without significant variation like with CO2. It also doesn't damage o-rings. The only downer is that HPA tanks are generally 3 to 15 times the cost of CO2 dependingo n whether you go with Steel or the preferred Carbon Fiber Wrapped tanks.

sorry if this is in the wrong spot, didn't see another place for it

i may also edit this if i come up with new ones;)

EDIT* crap, i just found the newbie forum, my bad guys

You're fine bro. Welcome to the site. Feel free to read through the stickies here...there's lots of information that has already been recorded/saved.

spray_painter58
02-12-2007, 03:01 PM
Well, some people shoot slower with a Rocking frame because you have to spread your fingers which feels weird to some, where others can just rip with the Rocking frame.

spray painter58-You just killed the entire english language.


haha srry about that...i had 2 abbreviate a lil..ok a LOT...its a lot faster for me that way

DagNasty
02-13-2007, 06:09 AM
Sorry, I should've made it clearer.

I know what a rocking trigger is, but one of my friends was complaining about a electric trigger being faster than a rocking, and that's all he said

So, since a rocking trigger is a type of an electric trigger, i guess he's just dumb.
are you sure he meant a rocking trigger? He may have meant a slider, in which case that's a mechanical trigger and will not allow for high rates of walking.

slider frames came on many of the older autocockers and was the norm in paintball for a few years until the electronic trigger frame was introduced.

lmldrummer
02-13-2007, 12:46 PM
What is a slider like?

and i'm pretty sure he meant a rocking, but maybe not

413sonix
02-13-2007, 12:52 PM
A Slider frame on an Autococker is as smooth as glass, and feels very good, but is only in a single trigger configuration in mechanical forum, although I believe there was a company that tried to make a double finger slider frame, but it failed. I believe he meant Rocking frame.