spyder or diablo? plz read!

[Diablo balla]

i was wondering which is better. the kingman spyder pilot acs '05 or the diablo mongoose 2 reincarnation. i need some good advice guys.:D

[413sonix]

If that's the Diablo with eyes and a regulator then it's better than the Pilot ACS 05'. If not it's only slightly better since it has a lighter microswitch which equates to a lighter trigger pull.

[iliveforthis99]

Yeah if it has the eyes and reg then get that one but if not then get the pilot for the ACS.

[Diablo balla]

well im going to buy eyes for it. and a whole new curcuit board. so i should have eyes and be able to shoot a good 32 balls a sec.

[iliveforthis99]

No you'll never be able to 32bps. You'd stay in the low to mid teens the eyes won't do anything other then stop chops.

[eddyydde]

well i've heard really good things about both guns so i don't really know what i would choose

[413sonix]

well im going to buy eyes for it. and a whole new curcuit board. so i should have eyes and be able to shoot a good 32 balls a sec.

Remember. If you buy eyes you'll need to drill holes for the eyes, and drill and tap threads for the eye cover screws. You won't be able to shoot 32 BPS. No fingers move that fast, and I dobut there is a loader that has a on marker feedrate of that.

[Rogue852]

sonix if he has a pulse hed be able to feed that. but other wise theres no way. the only way hed hit that is with a pulse or v35 halo b, a great board(with ramping and nxl setings), to void choping hed need eyes or he could get a rf chip with a pulse. also hed need a good tank that has a recharge rate to supply that. also your consistantsy would be bad.

point is youd have to put alot of money into it to even come close to that rate of fire.

i have the diablo mongoose 2 recarnation. and sometimes i wish that it would just take normal spyder stuff without having to mod it to get it to fit. so take that into thought.

[413sonix]

You do know that when manufacturers advertise feedrates that's a drop test. It slows down on the marker. Plus you have the blowback pushing the balls back up the feedneck slowing it down even more.

[Diablo balla]

mhm well thanks for all the advice guys. and yeah haha i wont be shootin 32 bps anytime soon the highest i got so far is like 18 for a consistancy of 5 seconds. yeah guys i really appreciate the advice.

[yoyovannydog]

you shot 18bps? with what gun on what mode?

[Rogue852]

You do know that when manufacturers advertise feedrates that's a drop test. It slows down on the marker. Plus you have the blowback pushing the balls back up the feedneck slowing it down even more.

Its a force feed. you would hardly get any speed problems with blowbacks. and youd still get a good 36 - 37 - 38 bps on marker

[413sonix]

Its a force feed. you would hardly get any speed problems with blowbacks. and youd still get a good 36 - 37 - 38 bps on marker

No. The blowback on my Spyder is still enough to chop with my VLocity Jr. paired with crappy detents doesn't help either, but the blowback causes it to chop. You wouldn't shoot 36-38 BPS. The T-board is capped at 36 BPS. The kick coming from the marker would vibrate it apart. Paired with the stop and go motion of the bolt and the blowback up the feedneck, it slows down a lot.

[xXBloodLustACXx]

No. The blowback on my Spyder is still enough to chop with my VLocity Jr. paired with crappy detents doesn't help either, but the blowback causes it to chop. You wouldn't shoot 36-38 BPS. The T-board is capped at 36 BPS. The kick coming from the marker would vibrate it apart. Paired with the stop and go motion of the bolt and the blowback up the feedneck, it slows down a lot.

True. The marker might technically be able to shoot that fast given the cirumstances, but it would be a complete mess and thekick would be unbelievable at stock high pressures.

How much money do you have? You can probably skip the Mongoose and get a Slayer or Wrath, though I don't really know how much either is right now, but I'm sure the Slayer is low.

Do you have HPA? I'd hope so.