Evil or J&J elite Barrel Kits

[axarasakix11]

I just got a VS2 and was wondering what kind of barrel i should get i narrowed it down to the Evil barrel kit and the J&J elite barrel kit. I was looking to spend from $50-$80.

Thanks for all who respond.

[METALLICAT]

Well im assuming your talking about the Evil pipe kit. If you get the FUll pipe its going to be around 150. If you get the Edge Elite from J&J its going to be about 83-93 dollars.

I have the Edge on my Vs2, but if you play woodsball dont bother getting a Kit. Get a nice one peice or a 2peice. Hell your stock barrel is pretty good..

But if you play speedball, or both, get the J&J its in your price range, and instead of getting a 6 peice kit like the Pipe, you get 8 peices. 3 fronts and 5 backs with the J&J.

[axarasakix11]

but i was thinking about getting this deal in firstcallpaintball.com, there the evil barrel kit for $50. i think that it is pretty cheap and i dont really play woodsball.

[babustos]

Thats actually a really good deal, 5 backs and a tip for $50. Go for it, unless you want to pay $30 more for 2 more tips on the J&J Edge Elite.

[METALLICAT]

In Speed ball you will be happy with either of those barrel kits. They will work just the same. But you have to be carefull about the Pipe Kit, the fronts are kinda soft... The tip anyway, is very thin. So, if you like to push bunkers out of the way you might want a larger more sturdy Tip, which you get with the J&J 14 inch. But then again you wont really need 2 extra tips.

Depending on your style of play in Speedball, either of those kits will be fine. But it seems like the better deal is with the Pipe.

[babustos]

Pipes are known to have thinner tips, but it isn't too big of a deal unless you smash it on a rock.

[Slinky17]

I have the Edge on my Vs2, but if you play woodsball dont bother getting a Kit. Get a nice one peice or a 2peice. Hell your stock barrel is pretty good..

But if you play speedball, or both, get the J&J its in your price range, and instead of getting a 6 peice kit like the Pipe, you get 8 peices. 3 fronts and 5 backs with the J&J.

Why shouldn't he get a barrel kit if he's playing woodsball? Does paint to bore match not matter in the woods?

[JChan819]

In regards to your post, Slink, the stock VS2 barrel isn't that bad. IMO, you wouldn't need to change it. But yeah, if he wants to spend some cash on a kit, it'd help a lot.

Well, I'd take the Edge Elite. I love J&J barrels, and besides, it self-cleans (To an extent). :-)

The Pipe's not a bad investment, though. Pretty cheap, too. If you're on a budget, then get the Pipe.

[METALLICAT]

Becuase of a few reasons in my opinion.

1. One of the only Major differnces in play will be the ablility to match your paint to the right back. And then youll only use that back.

2.You wont really get much more distance opposed to a nice one peice or a 2 peice.

3. Most Woodsballers use the same paint over and over. Cheap Walmart paint. Theyve allready figured out what paint works, and what paint doesnt. So there really isnt much of a need for differnt backs. Unless you go to a Woodsball Feild, and have to use their Crappy Feild paint. THEN more backs come in handy.

So bassically they arnt worth the money for woodsball. But if you plan on playing Speedball, they will be a better investment. You are really better off like i said, getting a nice one peice or 2 peice.

[babustos]

Becuase of a few reasons in my opinion.

1. One of the only Major differnces in play will be the ablility to match your paint to the right back. And then youll only use that back. So then why should anybody buy a barrel kit?

2.You wont really get much more distance opposed to a nice one peice or a 2 peice. Distance will be about the same with any barrel other than the Apex or Flatline, and how will getting a kit shorten distance? I would much rather have a $50 kit than a $40 one piece as long as the kit is nice.

3. Most Woodsballers use the same paint over and over. Cheap Walmart paint. Theyve allready figured out what paint works, and what paint doesnt. So there really isnt much of a need for differnt backs. Unless you go to a Woodsball Feild, and have to use their Crappy Feild paint. THEN more backs come in handy. Thats not true with all, all non-sponsored paintballers are available to the same types of paint within a given area. Even if you buy from Walmart all the time, maybe your favorite .689 balls are out and they only have .693.

So bassically they arnt worth the money for woodsball. But if you plan on playing Speedball, they will be a better investment. You are really better off like i said, getting a nice one peice or 2 peice. If a woodsballer played as much as a speedballer, and both used different types of paint every time, would that mean that the speedballer should get a kit and the woodsballer shouldn't? A kit isn't necessary to everybody, but the segregation is not woodsballer vs. speedballer.

[METALLICAT]

I was asked in his situation why a kit wouldnt be as good. If you used differnt kinds of paint every time then hell yeah a kit would rock the house in any style.

Your taking it a few steps to far. Yeah i know, theres similar paint all over that people use, and yep sometimes that paint is out, and they have to get a size bigger.But thats a big WHAT IF.

Its pointless to argue this, because the man doesnt even play Woodsball.

[alnmike]

Babustos, do you have an opinion to help the original poster or just trying to shoot someone else down?


Anyway, the Pipe kit and J&J kit are both equally awesome. Metallicat has the Edge, I have the Pipe. We went out and played last sunday with em both, he ended up using his Apex most of the time anyway.
My pipe kit shot amazing with good paint (Xball silver, but it was 6 months old). I had more accuracy than the apex but not as much range. I believe the edge kit shot around teh same accuracy as the pipe. Its all up to you which oen to get. The pipe costs almost twice as much, but you get color choices. And the edge comes with more tips to choose from.

[babustos]

If you think a kit would be a good idea in his situation, don't say that it would be a bad idea unless he plays speedball.

Babustos, do you have an opinion to help the original poster or just trying to shoot someone else down?

Actually if you look at my first post...

Get the Pipe, its just as good as the Edge Elite except it comes with 2 less unecessary tips and costs $30 less.

[alnmike]

Sorry, I was just going off your long post. The pipe tips do seem thin, but dont smack it on trees and youll be fine. I now have a 12 inch, 16, and 18. Ive only played with the 12, and I dont <ever> fall so the thin tips arent a problem for me.

[DarkeWolf]

One thing that you really have to be careful of with the Evil Pipe kits, is NOT to get one that has the angel threads, with a thread adapter. Those things are junk. they break paint, and pretty much just defeat the whole purpose of getting a barrel kit. Since the adapter acts as a control bore. So read carefully when you see a Pipe on sale for cheap.

Here's what I have seen from mine. Yes, I own both.

J&J Better built, heavier construction. Shorter, fatter control bores. Better air efficiency, and more quiet. Shoots thru breaks better.

Pipe- slightly better selection of control bores, better accuracy, looks better. Doesnt have the problem with "lock up" that my J&J does. What I mean by that is that a lot of times, I have to break out the strap wrenches to get my J&J apart, because the tip pressurizes to the front making it REALLY hard to get them unscrewed from each other.
Pipe is really hard to find in some threading tho.

[babustos]

Actually the $50 Pipe kit comes in pretty much every thread, but Autococker.

[alnmike]

Theres a $50 pipe kit? I bought mine for 100 on actionvillage, 50 for a tip, and then 30 for two more tips.

[METALLICAT]

Its one of those Deals from Firstcall if you read the previous posts.

[alnmike]

The deal from firstcall for $50 is 4 cocker threaded backs and a tip. And the .683 back is missing. If you have a cocker, definitely go for it. Just keep on the lookout for that last back, the whole reason of a kit is to have variety :)

[babustos]

Who needs a .683 back...there are hardly any paintballs that small.

[alnmike]

Who needs a .686, or a 93, 96 for that matter? Better off getting a regular 689 1 piece barrel then :P

[babustos]

.683 paint isn't that common, why buy a back that is uncommon and will be used minimally? IMO, 3-4 backs is more than enough. Those backs being .685, .689, and .693.

[METALLICAT]

Yeah, but then of course you have the off chance that there is .683 Not to mention balls shrink and expand. Though i dont think id go out of my way to buy it, but if in a kit i wouldnt mind.