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Okay as far as I could tell this question hasn't been asked yet but why is my Mini annihilating paint? I bought it about a month ago and lent it to my boss at the field I ref at. He chopped so many balls that the marker was useless on the field.
My serial number is in the two thousands so would the poppet problem be the cause of this or is it something I am overlooking? Also, would the poppet problem be the cause of this marker being as loud as my Indian Creek Promaster?
Edit - we are using Toro Deliverance
Crede777
09-10-2007, 11:09 AM
There are many factors which this could be attributed to:
1. Paint. Is the paint new? If it's crappy paint or is old, that may be your problem.
2. Barrel. Is the barrel to narrow or too wide for the paint? If it's too narrow, the paint obviously won't pass through. If it's too wide, more brittle paint can bounce and/or break.
3. Hopper. Is your hopper in good order? Perhaps it is putting too much pressure on the ball stack or is blending the paint as it feeds it.
4. Eyes. Are your eyes dirty or damaged? Maybe it's misreading the paint and causing you to chop.
There are more, but those are the most common cases.
Thanks for the quick reply.
The paint is fresh, and as far as I know Toro is supposed to be good quality. I'm using the stock barrel for now, but the barrel wouldn't effect chops in the breach. I'm using a Reloader B which is in good working order. It was clean when I took it off the gun to put everything away and before all of the destruction that occured yesterday I cleaned my eyes and they were fine.
Dees_Troy
09-10-2007, 12:05 PM
A 2000 serial number should indicate an early Mini. I bought mine in May this year and it has a serial number around the 6800 mark. Of course, the time of purchase won't necessarily indicate how recently the Mini was produced since some sellers take longer to clear their inventories than others. In other words, your Mini may have sat on the shelf for maybe 6 months before you bought it.
A serial number doesn't completely tell us whether it may have been affected by the poppet problem (e.g. only some Minis made March 1st to April 1st were affected, but not all of those Minis have bad poppets and Invert doesn't know which ones have the defective poppets). A defective poppet usually causes extreme blowback which can easily be mistaken as chopping. Try the "2 ball test" - simply put 2 balls in the feed tube without a hopper and fire the marker (in a safe place, mask on of course). If the top ball flies out the top of the marker, then you have a serious blowback problem that could easily break balls near the breach. It's ok for the top ball to jump a tiny bit.
The stock barrel is fairly large bore (.691 or .693 if I remember correctly) and unlikely to break paint unless the paint is so bad that everyone else that tried that paint also would have problems. Most people find that the stock barrel works well. Of course, if the "2 ball test" doesn't show bad blowback, you might want to try a few different types of paint.
If you can't figure it out or if the "2 ball test" shows a blowback problem, contact Invert and they should be able to get it working quickly.
toofless916
09-11-2007, 08:54 AM
My brother and I both have Minis. My mini is numbered in the 7000s while his is in the 13000s. I chopped paint the first day I used mine. I was using midnight paint and soon switched to bronze/silver. Once switching I have never had a chopping problem. I had also switched my barrel. My brother uses the stock barrel and consistantly runs midnight with his mini. He has been doing this since day one and has had no chopping problems.
I would imagine it is the paint/barrel in your situation. Try some different paint.
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