Mongoose 2 Or Vibe?

[prepkilla14]

Two Guns That Caught My Eye

Let Me Get Some Opinions

[iliveforthis99]

Personally i'd go w/ the vibe and get the EP operation. But then i'd maybe take the goose if it was the eye version. SP should be putting out a blackheart board and eyes for the vibe as well.

[prepkilla14]

Personally i'd go w/ the vibe and get the EP operation. But then i'd maybe take the goose if it was the eye version. SP should be putting out a blackheart board and eyes for the vibe as well.

yeah the goose does have eyes

[babustos]

What hopper do you have? It'd probably be best to get the Mongoose if you had a slower hopper to prevent chopping with the eyes, but if you've got a fast enough hopper you might not need the eyes with the Vibe.

[prepkilla14]

reloader II

[babustos]

Meh, you'll most likely run into problems if you want to shoot fast either in short bursts or in long strings with the Vibe. Another thing to consider is the Piranha EVO, its only about $130 and its an LP blowback with a bounce-beam eye.

[prepkilla14]

Meh, you'll most likely run into problems if you want to shoot fast either in short bursts or in long strings with the Vibe. Another thing to consider is the Piranha EVO, its only about $130 and its an LP blowback with a bounce-beam eye.


ill look into it

[Slinky17]

What hopper do you have? It'd probably be best to get the Mongoose if you had a slower hopper to prevent chopping with the eyes, but if you've got a fast enough hopper you might not need the eyes with the Vibe.

The board on the Vibe is actually capped at 11 bps, so it's not like he'd be outshooting anything other than a Quantam. And does the Vibe not have eyes?

The board thing is really the only turn off for me, otherwise I'd definitely say Vibe since it's EP. But you should really consider the EVO.

[prepkilla14]

i have looked into evos their nice i also find a cheap b2k4 im looking at

[Slinky17]

Out of all of those I'd probably take the B2K4. They look sweet, shoot fast, and they're EP. Only thing is I've heard a few problems of leaks in stock parts and that the wiring in the stock board is cheap. I'd say it would be a better choice for someone who's owned a few ep's and can keep it up and running w/o a problem.

[babustos]

Actually the B2K4 is spring-returned, regardless of what false descriptions may say. But in all senses, the B2K4 is a great gun, especially with PDS. My friend's 04 BKO is reliable beyond all belief, and even though ICD guns aren't known for the best reliability, at least the BKO is. The only problem is, the B2K4 is fast. And with a not so fast hopper like the Reloader 2 and if it doesn't have eyes, you're looking at a good number of chops.

[Slinky17]

Are they really? I've heard that they are, but also heard that despite what people say it's not a FASOR. Diagrams I've seen of B2K's show a spring behind the ram not in front like a FASOR. But then I guess that would make them like a blow back. I'll have to check.

Edit: Ok, it was all pre-2004 Bushmasters and the BKO that were FASOR's. Not the B2K4. That's just to clear things up if you're interested in know the mechanics of potential markers. I'd seriously look at an ICD gun if I were you. I almost got one instead of my Fusion.

[iliveforthis99]

Maybe even try and pick up a used freestyle if you find one. I'd rather have one over any other ICD gun.

[babustos]

Are they really? I've heard that they are, but also heard that despite what people say it's not a FASOR. Diagrams I've seen of B2K's show a spring behind the ram not in front like a FASOR. But then I guess that would make them like a blow back. I'll have to check.

Edit: Ok, it was all pre-2004 Bushmasters and the BKO that were FASOR's. Not the B2K4. That's just to clear things up if you're interested in know the mechanics of potential markers. I'd seriously look at an ICD gun if I were you. I almost got one instead of my Fusion.

I'm too lazy to look any further for B2K4 diagrams, but I'm almost positive they're not fully electropneumatic. The 2004 BKO and B2K4 are nearly identical, with some differences with the tray and the milling. They were made at basically the same time, so I would assume that they are both spring-returned.

[iliveforthis99]

It's been awhile since i've had a b2k4 in my hands but i think it was EP. That was one of the things that set it apart from the bko if i remember right.

[babustos]

Features:

True electropnuematic operation, 18 bps
Machined from solid aircraft-grade aluminium
Hard anodized to military specifications, even the internal parts
Uses single 9 volt battery
No-tool field stripping
Low-pressure operation (200 - 300 psi)
Secondary regulator with gauge for precise velocity control
Does NOT include bottomline or hose setup (must be purchased seperately)

Thats what the BKO description says and I'm almost sure its not EP.

[iliveforthis99]

Well the bko uses a spring to push the bolt back after firing, i know for sure since i used to have fun pushing it forward and watching it pop back. I think what they mean is that it's not a BB, i've noticed that older FASORS were listed as being EP, primal for example.

[Imagine24]

I would get the Vibe!

[fcatman]

It seems like you know your sweet spot of what you need in a marker / budget. These two, as you can see by the responses above, are fairly evenly matched and what you will get will depend on personal preferences. Try to get you hands on one of each, even if you don't have a chance to shoot 'em and see what "feels" best.

[NoelyDeezNutz]

id go vibe as well

[Algernon]

used ion. i got mine for $120 with CP roller trigger and clamping feedneck, fabricat3d my own buble grip (outta foam and tape), painted it hot pink then caked it in paintball stickers. oh yeah, i also lost the twist locking cap to the feedneck, so i now use a hose clamp. the thing is a beast. i have no problems keeping up with any other high end markers out there. i got tired of so i bought an SLG.

out of the two you listed? vibe. AM board with a higher ROF cap will be out for it. anticop is not needed as most modern force-fed loaders are faster than your marker and certainly much faster than you. get a vibe, get a fast loader and get a new board.

[prepkilla14]

dont like ions thanks for all your opinions though but this thread should of been closed i already got my gun :)

setup in sig $130

[Algernon]

oh yeah.. duh. nice marker. i recommend vaporworks internals to lower operating pressure and cycling mass to make it smoother.

[prepkilla14]

oh yeah.. duh. nice marker. i recommend vaporworks internals to lower operating pressure and cycling mass to make it smoother.

Ive been thinking about it low on cash \though :(

[apbrendanw]

On one hand the vibe is ep, but i dispise spool valves. If you have compressed air, id recommend the b2k. To settle the earlier confusion from someone who has a b2k, they are fully ep, but they have a spring in the ram to help eliminate fsdo by giving the bolt/ram a bit of extra push to get started with. Removing it does not effect operation of the gun.

[Rockin the Tape]

I'd go with the vibe because the mongoose is a spyder clone and if you wanted a spyder, there are better ones out there.

[iliveforthis99]

Ok please read post number 22. He already bought a b2k4, no need to keep recommending guns.